Castro dead??

[KaGee]

Much speculation flying around that he has assumed room tempature. What do you think?

 

[RubberFrog]

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Think his brother will be any better?

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Think his brother will be any better?

His Brother is in power now, we will see.

 

[RPJS]

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You all may soon be able to smoke your favorite cigars without fear of arrest.

 

[LadyFish]

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I read that his brother is more of a tyrant than Castro ever was if you can imagine that. Time will tell.

As far as him being dead, I read this morning that he is at deaths door and that he relinquished his power today.

It'll be interesting to see if Castro's cult followers will accept Raul as their leader. Whether it will bring unrest, or if the country becomes even a tad bit more civil to its people.

 

[QC]

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Much speculation flying around that he has assumed room tempature. What do you think?

I'd think they could afford at least one refrigerator . . .

 

[PW2]

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I don't think they necessarily "accept" him as a leader.

Whatever the outcome of his health issues, it ought to give us the opportunity to somehow stop the ineffective sanction silliness that we have been party to. Start a new dialogue with Raul.

The cold war is over, there is no longer a communist "threat", and why give a new Cuban regime cause to continue to blame the USA for their problems? Open Cuba to travel and trade, and perhaps they can figure out a way bringing their people out of poverty.

 

[oddjob]

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I believe the regime is the same....Raul is not going to give up power without a fight......and the cult following will be right behind Raul ...because without him or castrol they cant live the life of luxury and tyrany. Its really that simple. There is only upper and lower class there by design.

The only way for cuba to rid the regime is by a coup or civil war....and fidel has been very good at preventing that by the same design. Dont mean to be cynical, but I've the studied the politics of the situation for about 15 years now. I've worked with friends and co-workers that have either been imprisoned by him and/or have survived the boat trip here. Not to mention the Cubans that came here before castro.

That old goat will probably pull through. He may not even be sick. Just needs the world to focus on him and Chavez some more...

 

[snapperbait]

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Dead.. Alive.. Raul.. Somebody else.. Same difference.....:|

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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From Sep of 75 to Oct of 76 I spent at Gitmo. At that time there were Cuban workers. These workers would talk to the sailors and soldiers there. At that time, I remember some said they fear the day his brother would take over.

I wouldn't doubt that very soon he is going to tell the US to get out of Guantanamo. Its going to be sticky if what I learned while stationed there still holds true.:%

 

[KaGee]

Re: Castro dead??

I don't think they necessarily "accept" him as a leader.

Whatever the outcome of his health issues, it ought to give us the opportunity to somehow stop the ineffective sanction silliness that we have been party to. Start a new dialogue with Raul.

The cold war is over, there is no longer a communist "threat", and why give a new Cuban regime cause to continue to blame the USA for their problems? Open Cuba to travel and trade, and perhaps they can figure out a way bringing their people out of poverty.

Hey PW, we agree!

I'll bet there is a lot of capitol floating around South Florida waiting to be invested back into the Island.

We do need to move quickly. I heard today, forget where, that there is a plan in place and has been for a long while, anticipating his demise.

Also heard that Chavez is communicating with the brother already... wonder what's up his sleeve?

 

[12Footer]

Re: Castro dead??

I don't think they necessarily "accept" him as a leader.

Whatever the outcome of his health issues, it ought to give us the opportunity to somehow stop the ineffective sanction silliness that we have been party to. Start a new dialogue with Raul.

Dialogue... Heheheehee.
Right. Like we recognise Raul.

The cold war is over, there is no longer a communist "threat", and why give a new Cuban regime cause to continue to blame the USA for their problems? Open Cuba to travel and trade, and perhaps they can figure out a way bringing their people out of poverty.

Incorrect. Cuba is just as communist as it was two days ago (and that's pretty much communist). If Cuba was not such a "threat" and if it were a capitalist society as opposed to a socialistic dictatorship, I'd agree with you on opening-up trade status and freeing the Cuban people from their socialistic poverty. But it's not. Castro, when told of a group of Cuban entrepenour food stands, nipped such burgeoning caplitalist outbursts in the bud by giving all Cuban houshoilds a rice cooker....Nummy.

 

[PW2]

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I have Canadian friends that travel to Cuba all the time. Their resorts are very nice, and very inexpensive.

Sure, 12 foot, they are communist, and they are not going to succomb to western pressures (or values) overnight, but neither has any other formerly communist country, incl and especially Russia.

Communication is the key, and pretending we are there to help the country, as opposed to conquering it, is the first step of a long journey.

 

[PW2]

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You'll find the sugar growers wildly opposed to relaxing any trade restrictions on Cuba, That's primarily why the embargo is still in place.

 

[12Footer]

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I have Canadian friends that travel to Cuba all the time. Their resorts are very nice, and very inexpensive.

Right. Canada. Is it starting to make sense to you? Canada, as great a country as it is, is looking at Cuba as a model of medical care for it's people. Good for them, but by a show of hands, I don't think America is ready for that.
Miami has great resorts too.many owned by Cubans who know the real story of Cuba.

Sure, 12 foot, they are communist, and they are not going to succomb to western pressures (or values) overnight, but neither has any other formerly communist country, incl and especially Russia.

The west is not going to succumb to socialist dictatorships,PW.At least not by majority.

Communication is the key, and pretending we are there to help the country, as opposed to conquering it, is the first step of a long journey.

In order to communicate with Cuba's current regime it must be recognised first. To recognise it is to legitamize it. It is illegitamate. Ask any Cuban in Miami. Ask Elian's Miami family.

 

[KRS]

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Casto was killed by the gov't, and his brother is a cosmetically matched cia agent.

 

[bernieb]

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Anyone remember the American businesses that were confiscated when Castro took them over ? and was it Miami or NewYork our President called for a pow-wow with him shortly after the revolution and in the hotel they killed chickens in bathtubs and put out their cigars in plush carpeting.

 

[snapperbait]

Re: Castro dead??

You'll find the sugar growers wildly opposed to relaxing any trade restrictions on Cuba, That's primarily why the embargo is still in place.

Give that man a cigar!....

Fanjuls.. BIG SUGAR.... BIG SUBSIDYS...... BIG contributors to BOTH political partys....:devil: EMBARGO ON!... The entire Fanjul family should be deported, or hanged (my preference)........!:|

 

[PW2]

Re: Castro dead??

12 foot...

By only talking to our friends that agree with us, we will be left with fewer and fewer people to talk to.

We can't conquer and control a tiny country like Iraq...How in the heck are we going to conquer the rest of the world, all at the same time?

 

[12Footer]

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12 foot...

By only talking to our friends that agree with us, we will be left with fewer and fewer people to talk to.

"Dialogue" with Castro? It's been tried. There was a major reason why even a liberal president ( JFK) brought us to the brink of nuclear exchanges with the soviets over this small island, PW.

We can't conquer and control a tiny country like Iraq...How in the heck are we going to conquer the rest of the world, all at the same time?

Brilliant. If we wanted to "conquer" Cuba, it would've been "Vegas South" 40 years ago. In case you have't noticed, America does not "conquer" countries. We never have and hopefully never will. Mexicans still speak mexican (even here -- talking about conquering nations!!!)..
But sadly, you've been indocrinated by our fine public schools, PW. They still do teach that "conquer /vs/ dialogue" BS to this day.
Don't get me wrong... I'd love to take the "Fast-Cat" (a high speed catermaran) for a day-trip to "Vegas South" someday, and smoking cuban robustos. And my father told me stories, and the family album is repleat with photos of his many fishing trips with my aunts/uncles.

I long for the day my childhood friends and classmates can return to re-unite with thier own surviving parents and family. But that cannot happen until the there is at minimum, a free election in Cuba.
And it will happen, when the current military occupation has died-off, and the people WANT change by trying to hold FREE elections, or to overthrow the present government. Then we "conquer" their country.

Try to understand also, that "talking things over" or "reconciling" with that regime would be like "talking" to the US Marines if they were in control of the American government.... Futile in concept, much less in practice.




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