Caught On A Sabiki Rig

[Fly Rod]

Man catches striper while jigging for mackerel on a 20 lb. sabiki rig.


http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x177906873/A-giant-among-stripers-a-hit-at-Winchester

 

[surrender]

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No sabiki involved per the article. He just caught a big bass on 20 pound with a mackerel for bait. Nice fish but...really not that big a deal. Dont know how you get sabiki and caught while mackerel fishing from that article.

 

[Fly Rod]

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Do not believe everything you read in the news paper. The other day the paper had said that a person drowned in Gloucester, he drowned in Rockport the next town over.

Vito caught the striper on a sabiki rig, jigging for mac's had been reeling in 3 mackerel hooked on the rig and the striper hit the weighted jig on the end of sabiki.

I'm sure that it was no big deal to Vito since he has caught many big stripers over the years but, it is publicity for the bait and tackle shop.

And it is a big deal for some to catch a big striper or they would not pay me 500 bucks for four hours of striped bass fishing.

 

[surrender]

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Cool, so the article was misleading. Heck its the press, what should I have expected, the truth? Nope.

 

[ajgraz]

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Every single time there has been a story in any paper--whether the kid's school paper, the company newsletter, the San Diego UT, LA Times, ANY paper--where I've known the true story, there are many important details that are outright wrong. Not necessarily maliciously misrepresented, but just flat-out wrong.

I suspect reporters (who often are unfamiliar with the subject material) jot down or just try to recall from memory every little bit of detail or jargon they see and hear, then jumble it into a story later to meet a deadline. Makes for a recipe for falsehood.

 

[fishrdan]

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That's a nice striper right there!

When I've been making bait with a sabiki I've always thought, what if... Well, there you go!

 

[jigngrub]

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Nice fish, but nowhere near a big deal with 20 lb. test.

Here's a 50 lber. caught on 2lb. test.

http://www.stripersurf.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527155

I use a 40 lb. test 4 hook Sabiki rig for big Blue Cats here in the winter, and a 6 lb. 6 hook rig for Crappie.

And it is a big deal for some to catch a big striper or they would not pay me 500 bucks for four hours of striped bass fishing.

I guess P.T. Barnum was right if people are paying you $125 an hour to catch a limit of 2 fish over 28".

I don't know anyone that would pay that, no matter what size the fish were.

 

[Fly Rod]

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Nice fish, but nowhere near a big deal with 20 lb. test.

Here's a 50 lber. caught on 2lb. test.

http://www.stripersurf.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527155



I use a 40 lb. test 4 hook Sabiki rig for big Blue Cats here in the winter, and a 6 lb. 6 hook rig for Crappie.



I guess P.T. Barnum was right if people are paying you $125 an hour to catch a limit of 2 fish over 28".

I don't know anyone that would pay that, no matter what size the fish were.

Apparently you do not travel around the country or out of country to do any fishing.

 

[jigngrub]

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Apparently you do not travel around the country or out of country to do any fishing.

As a matter of fact I do! My job (construction) takes me around the southeast and I fish everywhere I go, both fresh and saltwater.

Dad was in the Navy and step dad was in the USMC and I fished up and down the east coast from L.I. N.Y to Jacksonville Fla. and most points inbetween as a kid. I still remember catching and cleaning the Northern Puffers (Blowfish) on L.I, if you broke the little green bladder while cleaning them you had to throw the fish away... but man were they ever tasty!!! mmmmmm fried puffer, no bones... just a piece of triangular cartlidge.

My wife is Canadian and I fish lake Ontario, lake Simcoe, and lake Nippissing in Ontario when we go up to visit her kin.

We also try to get down to the Gulf coast (Orange Beach Alabama) once a year for some salt water action, either offshore, inshore, or just surfcasting Perdido Pass or the state peir.

Striped Bass aren't that bif of a deal here in 'Bama, our lakes are full of them.

http://www.outdooralabama.com/fishing/freshwater/where/reservoirs/smith/

http://www.stripers247.com/Alabama-stripers.php

Here's our guide rates:

http://www.alabamaoutdoors.net/smithlake.html

We even have a lake (Weiss) with a selfsustaining stock of Stripers, one of only a handful in the country. There's just enough current and gravel in this lake for the eggs to hatch and not get buried in the mud.

The reason our Striped Bass are so abundant is that we don't have a commercial market for them here, as a matter of fact it's against the law to sell one... what's it like in New England?

btw, our creel limit for Stripers here is 2 fish over 16" and 28 fish under 16" on most lakes except Weiss where the limit is 30 of any size.

 

[Fly Rod]

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The striped bass that stay here for the summer migrate from the Chesapeake area and also the Hudson River. They come north chasing the mackerel and pogies and head back south in October.

We do have a commercial season in Massachusetts that has a quota of a million pounds, which last about 20 - 25 days. It use to only last a week but, we can not fish every day of the week, only 3 days per week commercially. The recreational fishing of salt water striped bass fishing does more harm since that part of the fishery catches about 20 million pounds. We are all recreational striped bass fishermen except for the couple of weeks that the commercial season is opened. I catch more stripers while recreational fishing from May through October.

 

[jigngrub]

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The striped bass that stay here for the summer migrate from the Chesapeake area and also the Hudson River. They come north chasing the mackerel and pogies and head back south in October.


We do have a commercial season in Massachusetts that has a quota of a million pounds, which last about 20 - 25 days. It use to only last a week but, we can not fish every day of the week, only 3 days per week commercially. The recreational fishing of salt water striped bass fishing does more harm since that part of the fishery catches about 20 million pounds.
We are all recreational striped bass fishermen except for the couple of weeks that the commercial season is opened. I catch more stripers while recreational fishing from May through October.

Sounds like those commercial boys need to burn their nets and pick up a rod and reel so they can catch more fish faster eh?!!!

Do you have any statistics on how many millions of pounds of bycatch the commercial boys kill in their nets?... undersized/illegal to keep Striped Bass, other illegal to keep species, unwanted species???... but I don't think you really want to talk about that, do you?

The recreationals don't do near the damage or have near the waste that the commercial boys do.

 

[Fly Rod]

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Sounds like those commercial boys need to burn their nets and pick up a rod and reel so they can catch more fish faster eh?!!!


Do you have any statistics on how many millions of pounds of by catch the commercial boys kill in their nets?... undersized/illegal to keep Striped Bass, other illegal to keep species, unwanted species???... but I don't think you really want to talk about that, do you?

The recreationals don't do near the damage or have near the waste that the commercial boys do.

First of all you should first learn about the subject that you are talking about. We do not use nets There is very little by catch of younger fish in the commercial fishery of striped bass in Mass. We target fish over 34 inches to sell commercially. Recreational fishermen have about 11-14% of die off on catch and releasing of Striped bass.

The commercial fishery of striped bass here in Massachusetts is a commercial fishery where as striped bass can only be caught using rod and reel with only one hook on the line. Further more you can only fish legally for striped bass inside the EEZ(3mile limit line) in any state within the 3 mile limit. Anything outside 3 miles is Federal waters and you are not allowed to intentionally fish or target striped bass. The environmental police here in Mass. have gone a step further if caught outside the 3 mile limit, you can not even bring the bass into the boat to have your picture taken and then release the fish, they have given out two hundred dollar fines for bringing the bass into the boat out side the 3 mile limit.

Florida started I believe two years ago that you can not bring a Tarpon inside the boat.

There is very little by catch of younger fish in the commercial fishery of striped bass in Mass. We target fish over 34 inches to sell commercially, most of my fish are over 38 inches. Recreational fishermen have about 11-14% of die off on catch and releasing of Striped bass. And in Mass., it is illegal to high grade(catch and keep alive a small legal fish and replace it with a larger fish.)

 

[jigngrub]

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It use to only last a week but, we can not fish every day of the week, only 3 days per week commercially..

You should practice what you preach about knowing about what you're talking about.

Commercial fishing for Stripers in Mass. is 4 days a week.

From the Mass. commercial fishing regs.

8)

Commercial fishermen may fish for striped bass only on Sundays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursday within the commercial season. Striped bass May be taken by hook and line only; spearing, netting, snagging are prohibited. Note: Permitted party/charter vessel operators may fillet striped bass for their customers. See 322 CMR 6.07 (4)(g) for details.

First of all you should first learn about the subject that you are talking about. We do not use nets There is very little by catch of younger fish in the commercial fishery of striped bass in Mass. We target fish over 34 inches to sell commercially. Recreational fishermen have about 11-14% of die off on catch and releasing of Striped bass.

The commercial fishery of striped bass here in Massachusetts is a commercial fishery where as striped bass can only be caught using rod and reel with only one hook on the line. Further more you can only fish legally for striped bass inside the EEZ(3mile limit line) in any state within the 3 mile limit. Anything outside 3 miles is Federal waters and you are not allowed to intentionally fish or target striped bass. The environmental police here in Mass. have gone a step further if caught outside the 3 mile limit, you can not even bring the bass into the boat to have your picture taken and then release the fish, they have given out two hundred dollar fines for bringing the bass into the boat out side the 3 mile limit.

Florida started I believe two years ago that you can not bring a Tarpon inside the boat.

There is very little by catch of younger fish in the commercial fishery of striped bass in Mass. We target fish over 34 inches to sell commercially, most of my fish are over 38 inches. Recreational fishermen have about 11-14% of die off on catch and releasing of Striped bass. And in Mass., it is illegal to high grade(catch and keep alive a small legal fish and replace it with a larger fish.)

I really like the no netting law, that's a good thing!

Even though you can only fish 4 days a week, I see you possession limit is 2 1/2 times what the recs. is... 5 and 30 fish, I take it that the 30 fish limits are for charter boats and the 5 fish limit is for individuals?

Since your possession limits are higher, I'd say you have the same or more bycatch and mortality rates as the recs. do... plus you'll kill bigger fish than the recs do because your length limit is higher.

 

[Fly Rod]

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You should practice what you preach about knowing about what you're talking about.

Commercial fishing for Stripers in Mass. is 4 days a week.

The fourth day, Sunday, is for the person that has a 9-5 job during the week.

From the Mass. commercial fishing regs.


I really like the no netting law, that's a good thing!

Even though you can only fish 4 days a week, I see you possession limit is 2 1/2 times what the recs. is... 5 and 30 fish, I take it that the 30 fish limits are for charter boats and the 5 fish limit is for individuals?

The fish limits are for anyone that posses a commercial striped bass license, cost for individal is 35 dollars, has nothing to do with operating a charter boat. A boat license is around 200 dollars which covers all your friends and neighbors that do not have an individual license that fish on your boat.

Since your possession limits are higher, I'd say you have the same or more bycatch and mortality rates as the recs. do... plus you'll kill bigger fish than the recs do because your length limit is higher.

I can only speak for myself, where I fish commercially for stripers the only mortality are what come into the boat, they are all over 34 inches in length, no undersized fish, not like when I recreational fish near the shore and catch 20 -30 stripers in a four hour period under the recreational size limit of 28 inches and then there is mortality and discard throwing them back overboard and you can call that discard since you can not keep them and also as I recreational fish and keep my two alloted stripers I can still recreational fish and practice catch and release, creating mortality and discard all day long.

Half my post is missing. I had ansewerd your questions, they must have gone to cyber space.

 

[jigngrub]

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I can only speak for myself, where I fish commercially for stripers the only mortality are what come into the boat, they are all over 34 inches in length, no undersized fish, not like when I recreational fish near the shore and catch 20 -30 stripers in a four hour period under the recreational size limit of 28 inches and then there is mortality and discard throwing them back overboard and you can call that discard since you can not keep them and also as I recreational fish and keep my two alloted stripers I can still recreational fish and practice catch and release, creating mortality and discard all day long.

Half my post is missing. I had ansewerd your questions, they must have gone to cyber space.

There is nothing in your regs that say you have to have a 9-5 job to fish commercially for Stripers on Sundays. We both know that people that fish commercially will go out every day they can to make up for the days they can't because of the weather.

Now let me get this straight, you guide/charter Striper trips for $500 for 4 hrs. You fish commercially for Stripers 3 or 4 days a week, and you fish recreationally for Stripers too? My goodness, you're a busy man on the water!...and it sounds to me like you're trying to single handedly wipe out the entire Striper population on the East coast!

Then, you can fish deep water commercially and and have a motrality rate of zero and no bycatch, but when you fish shallow water recreationally you have a huge bycatch and kill the snot out of them?... I'm sorry to hear that, it's probably all the fishes fault eh?

 

[Fly Rod]

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There is nothing in your regs that say you have to have a 9-5 job to fish commercially for Stripers on Sundays. We both know that people that fish commercially will go out every day they can to make up for the days they can't because of the weather.

Now let me get this straight, you guide/charter Striper trips for $500 for 4 hrs. You fish commercially for Stripers 3 or 4 days a week, and you fish recreationally for Stripers too? My goodness, you're a busy man on the water!...and it sounds to me like you're trying to single handedly wipe out the entire Striper population on the East coast!

Then, you can fish deep water commercially and and have a motrality rate of zero and no bycatch, but when you fish shallow water recreationally you have a huge bycatch and kill the snot out of them?... I'm sorry to hear that, it's probably all the fishes fault eh?

It is the governments fault for the way they write rules and regs.

all you need to fish commercially for striped bass is a 35 dollar striper endorsement and about another 30-35 dollars for a landing permit.(selling permit)

 

[sasto]

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I guess P.T. Barnum was right if people are paying you $125 an hour to catch a limit of 2 fish over 28".

I don't know anyone that would pay that, no matter what size the fish were.

Sure happens here! 'Cause ya don't know... doesn't make it so? Check your figures on your boat......Mine?...About $25 a pound once I figure it up. Being out there, priceless!

 

[jigngrub]

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Sure happens here! 'Cause ya don't know... doesn't make it so? Check your figures on your boat......Mine?...About $25 a pound once I figure it up. Being out there, priceless!

My fish are a little cheaper than that, but I've probably had my boat longer and it probably wasn't nearly as expensive as yours.

... but for $500 for 4 hrs. and a 2 fish limit, the better have waitresses in "Bunny" outfits serving cocktails!

 

[Fly Rod]

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My fish are a little cheaper than that, but I've probably had my boat longer and it probably wasn't nearly as expensive as yours.

... but for $500 for 4 hrs. and a 2 fish limit, the better have waitresses in "Bunny" outfits serving cocktails!

Bunny suits! U R old fashion. Can provide them in thongs but, would cost a little more.

Looked up charters in your area and most charge 200 for two people and 300 hundred for for three people. Apparently when you travel to Florida or where ever you must fish from shore, you do not charter a boat. Tarpon fishing in Florida cost me 400 and in the Bahamas it cost me 500 - 600 for four hours