Chased my own tail tonight

marlboro180

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While I wasn't boating, I was on the boat finally getting her ready to get back out on the water after long awaited repair.
Motor back together? Check. Bolts torqued? check. Alternator hooked up? Check. Fuel full? check...You get the idea..

Fired right up and I had a big 'ol grin , patting myself on the back for actually getting the old Merc 3L running again. Kicked back with a cold one while the motor warmed up,then cleaned up the tools still keeping eye on things. Must have bumped a connection for the fuel gauge sender I thought to myself as now the fuel gauge read "E" . Didn't do that before and never touched the gauges. Just a head / manifold, etc.

Shut the motor down and got out the electrical stuff. Should be fun:rolleyes:
Got comfy under the dash and started poking around and all the power is on to everything, so it must be the sending unit. Pull off the deck and diagnose sending unit. it is fine, gauge is good too. But still reads "E" . But tank is full, so what gives?

I started checking voltage everywhere and was getting some funky reads- 12V positive on the - side of the blower connection with the switch off, same thing at the bilge pump. Turn switches on, they don't run but now have power on both sides. WTH??? Time to get comfy under the dash again and see what happened. Chipmunks? Squirrels? Mice??? Wouldn't be the first time...

So I'm laying under there and now its getting dark and I'm cuddled up with a flashlight and a test light. Got not horn, no running lights , no fuel gauge, no blower and no pump. Ain't going out in the AM as planned I'm thinking...

I hear my wife pulling into the drive as I'm yet again testing the horn button, pressing it indignantly thinking that will make it work somehow. She gets out and says "Well, hello back!" What? how's she know I'm in the boat under the dash?"

Turns out the horn button was making the bow lights work! I never touched the wiring! My kid thought it was hilarious. They saw the lights flashing on and off while I was hitting the horn button and thought I was saying hello. Too funny. We sat there laughing , wondering what gremlin ( besides me ) got in there to mess things up.

Back and forth checked everything again and again . Nothing was making sense. Gonna be a long night..After another round of terminal checking, back to the manual time and time again:

Make it back to the battery one last time, about ready to hang it up for the night. Hey , what are these two small negative terminal rings doing tucked behind the battery box? Oh yeah , those came off when taking the head off. Better put those back on....Needless to say, when I hooked them back up, everything worked just fine. All gauges working, pump,blower, lights and horn function as normal.

What a brain fart!! Going back to basics when something looks funky is a basic concept . Still can't figure out why I was getting the readings I was though. Or why the lights worked with the horn button... Needless waste of time chasing a problem that wasn't , I could have been putting the gear together for tomorrow's trip!
 
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j_martin

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

Boat wiring can really be interesting. Sometimes it seems that Murphey is sitting on your shoulder, supervising every move.

It's not as bad these days as it was in the 70's. I once saw a bass boat catch fire, fully involved immediately. The fishermen dove off and swam away, and the boat burned down to the water line and sank. The new trolling motor had been wired with lamp cord, laid in the gunwale along with the rubber fuel line.

So let us know how the sea trials go.

John
 

Bifflefan

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

quick answer, when the grounds were off and you tried the horn, somewhere they have a common wire, when the horn is pressed ther isnt enough ground to make it operate so it trys to find one, thus going backwards in the light circuit to find a place to go. now there still inst enough ground to make the horn beep, but there was enough to blink the lights. even tho i think they didnt blink at full force.
Ever see someone turn on a L turn sig and the right tail light blinks in the oppisite? bad ground on the L one.

Did i explain that good????
 

Bill Kilgore

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

As I was reading, I was hoping you would not say the words "arc", "fumes, "pwoomph", or "extinguisher" as I have had to use those words in describing some of my own "tail chasing". Glad you are going well.
 

j_martin

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

quick answer, when the grounds were off and you tried the horn, somewhere they have a common wire, when the horn is pressed ther isnt enough ground to make it operate so it trys to find one, thus going backwards in the light circuit to find a place to go. now there still inst enough ground to make the horn beep, but there was enough to blink the lights. even tho i think they didnt blink at full force.
Ever see someone turn on a L turn sig and the right tail light blinks in the oppisite? bad ground on the L one.

Did i explain that good????

Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.:D
 

marlboro180

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

Yes bifflefan that was good explanation. Even went out this morning, reset the situation and used a more sensitive magical device that showed me the path of the elusive electrons. Thankfully I did not let the magic smoke out...

Sea trial tomorrow, had company today.
 

CaptainKev

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

If you want some electrical challenges, I had a 1971 Jaguar that had more than it's fair share when it rained...I never left the house without three things......insulation tape, some 12 gauge wire and a sense of humor.:D
Kev.
 

marlboro180

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Re: Chased my own tail tonight

If you want some electrical challenges, I had a 1971 Jaguar that had more than it's fair share when it rained...I never left the house without three things......insulation tape, some 12 gauge wire and a sense of humor.:D
Kev.

Yep! Those are fun!! Rebuilt w/ a friend ground up '66 Healy Mark III, then a Spitfire...At least we knew it was supposed to be crazy!

"Lucas, lighting by the Princess of Darkness"
Why do British mechanics drink warm beer?----'cause their fridges are wires by Lucas.
Why are they drinkin' beer in the first place?----'cause they're workin' on ( insert favorite maker e.g. Jaguar, Austin Healy, Triumph, TVR, etc here)
 
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