Choosing The Right Mechanic

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MarkSee

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Regarding taking it back to him for the oil change:
Personally I would since he will fix any issues with the block.

Here's the tech bulletin on the proper flushing procedure when on a hose if you do not already have it.

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UncleWillie

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You should at least lower it down below the lowest trailer position - running the motor with the drive in trailer is hard on the u-joints

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Whenever the engine is running, all the drive shafts, u-joints, impeller, Bevel gears, etc. are all turning.
Even in neutral, everything is rotating except the final output shaft (Prop Shaft) that the prop in mounted on.
The drive can be "Trimmed" up, but not all the way up in the trailerable up position.
 

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...In the last 3 years that we've done that during the winter months, we've left the drive all the way up. The only time we lower the drive all the way down is when we check the operation of the drive/put it into gear...

The drive should always be DOWN except when it needs to be up.
The up position is call the Tailerable position for a reason, It is for when you are trailering it.
If you are not going down the road or moving it where it need to be up, it should be down
If you are storing it, it should be down.
In the up position the hydraulic trim actuators are prone to corrosion.
Besides the bellows and the stress on the u-joints. the drive will hold water in the up position.

Notice the next time you recover it.
Raise the drive, recover it to the trailer.
Drive it home and store it in the yard.
Now lower the drive and watch all the water come out of it.
A rain shower will tend to fill it back up.
If you leave it up, you risk freezing the water in there; Even in Northeast Florida.
 

LuvBoating

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Gotta add this: Stopped by his shop this AM to pick up the fuel pump that we took over to him last week, but he didn't need it. Our fuel pump is fine. He had another boat sitting in his boat area that I hadn't seen before. He now has 4 boats in the parking area and a small John boat in his shop. I told him that it looked like him and his assistant were keeping busy and he said to me "well, not really" and told me that three of the boats weren't being worked on b/c the owners haven't given him any (or enough) "upfront" money yet for repairs.
Apparently this guy really doesn't have any Capital in the bank for parts! Heck of a way to run a business!
 

oldjeep

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told me that three of the boats weren't being worked on b/c the owners haven't given him any (or enough) "upfront" money yet for repairs.
Apparently this guy really doesn't have any Capital in the bank for parts! Heck of a way to run a business!

Or it is just his way of insuring he at least gets paid for the parts in case he gets stuck with someone who does not pick up the boat. I don't see any issue with that, especially when dealing with old money pit boats.
 

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Could very well be, but I know of two other marine service centers who don't do this and they repair old boats as well! We were never asked for any "upfront money" when we had our manifolds & risers replaced by one marine service.
I also know that he doesn't have a credit card/debit card machine. He loves cash!
This is the first time we've had to deal with "upfront cash" to have anything done to anything we own!

Or it is just his way of insuring he at least gets paid for the parts in case he gets stuck with someone who does not pick up the boat. I don't see any issue with that, especially when dealing with old money pit boats.
 

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What the heck, why didn't you go back to the "good" places then? I don't get it. Even this time you went to a place first that probably would not have asked for upfront money but you thought was overcharging or something, then you prompty rejected them and went with this guy, so what exactly is the beef now. With this guy you could have said "No, no money up front" then hauled it back home or over to one of those other establishments you know of.

Back to your original title for this thread, "Chooing the right mechanic", I think you have proven the point that, for you, you chose the WRONG mechanic. It will be interesting to see what the same mechanic decides to do the next time you show up.
 

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Guess I must clarify.........

The two other marine service places we've been to:

First one was a non-dealership recommended by the owner of the boat when we bought it. This place's labor fee is $70 per hr. We took it there for oil change, new plugs and a broken fuel gauge. Had to return b/c the sender in the fuel tank was never checked by the mechanic when he installed a new fuel gauge. Had the new manifolds/risers put on by him, but when he was doing a water-test, he hit something in the water and chipped our prop! It was a brand new prop! He didn't tell the owner of the center about the prop, but when we were going to pick up the boat, we seen it. The owner put a new prop on for us, but the boat was at the center for another week.
So, after both of those problems happened with that mechanic, we didn't want to go back to him.

Second place was a Mercruiser Dealership that charges $95 per hr labor. We've had a few things done by them, but nothing nearly as expensive as this repair would be. When that mechanic/supervisor told me the estimated cost of the engine job (labor/parts), it was much higher tha we wife/I wanted to pay, so we looked for someone cheaper and that we hadn't used before. The cost ended up cheaper, but the lost engine (in shipment), upfront money, his attitude just didn't seem worth the savings.

AND, on top of that, the guy didn't have/know/remember the actual cost for any part he bought! No cost written on invoice for valve covers, timing chain cover, oil pan, plugs, wires, bilge pump, hour meter, new oil/oil filter! We gave him $600 cash, but he couldn't itemize nothing on the invoice. He told my wife, "I just don't remember the costs." We ended up looking on the Internet and getting estimated costs for those items. This was the first invoice I've seen w/parts on the left side and no costs written. We paid him upfront for the new alternator and long block.....he didn't keep his part of the invoice, but we kept ours (showing we gave him the money). It all just seemed so weird and totally unorganized. To us anyway.



What the heck, why didn't you go back to the "good" places then? I don't get it. Even this time you went to a place first that probably would not have asked for upfront money but you thought was overcharging or something, then you prompty rejected them and went with this guy, so what exactly is the beef now. With this guy you could have said "No, no money up front" then hauled it back home or over to one of those other establishments you know of.

Back to your original title for this thread, "Chooing the right mechanic", I think you have proven the point that, for you, you chose the WRONG mechanic. It will be interesting to see what the same mechanic decides to do the next time you show up.
 

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looks like you want top notch care at shade tree prices.
 

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Ayuh,.... This is turned into a Whine thread,.... 'n is now Closed....

We know you got an Old boat....

We know you hired a fella that didn't measure up to yer expectations...

This is a Dyi site,... If YOU wanta fix it,.... We'll help ya through it....

This Isn't a "My mechanic is Ignorant" site,.....


Good Day,....
 
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