Common courtesy (lack of)

JustMrWill

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Drove out to Ohio to give my brother a car. I had about an hour to kill before meeting up with him and I saw a sign for a public boat ramp. Since I am without a boat I figure..."what the heck" and spend my hour watching people launch and generally enjoy the beautiful Saturday morning.<br /><br />Ramp..not to busy...steady stream of boats...no real waiting. As I am sitting there, a boat dies out about halfway across the inlet. Try as they might...nothing...so they start paddling back using two waterskis. Four boats launched and drove right by them without offering a quick (2 min max) tow. I took this picture after I remembered that I had my camera.<br /><br />
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<br /><br />It boogles the mind as to why nobody would help them out. They ended up paddling all the way back to the dock (about 20 minutes against the current).<br /><br />-JMW
 

JB

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Re: Common courtesy (lack of)

At sea it is a major offense not to stop and render aid to a vessel in distress!! That may be the FIRST law of the sea.<br /><br />Clear proof that having a boat does not a seaman make.<br /><br />Red sky at morning to all those self absorbed jerks. :mad: <br /><br />I would love to post a yankee bash here, but there are lotsa jerks in Texas, too. :(
 

Boatin Bob

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I agree that there was a real lack of common courtesy there but on the other hand (I'm not sure of the requirements in Ohio) but here in Ontario a boat that size is supposed to have paddles (don't think skis are a substitute) ;)
 

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Sorry to Hijack the tread, but could someone expand on this red sky at night is a sailors delight? is it windy or a nice day? and how about the red sky in the moring sailors take warning, what happens then?<br /><br />By sailors, is it all mariners or just guys on sailboats?
 

Rancherlee

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Re: Common courtesy (lack of)

brings back memorys of my childhood at my Grandpa's lake place. I use to take joy in in hopping in his little 14' run-a-bout when I would spot a stranded boat in his bay (larger bay on a 30 mile long lake). One day my engine quit out there and I litterally had 20-30 boats pass me by before someone stopped to help about 45 minutes later(usually the cover off the engine and a 12 year old bow rowing a boat is a sign of needing help)
 

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In 6 years of boating, I have had the pleasure of helping at least one fellow boater per year. Be it a quick tow to the ramp, jumpstart, or a little gas to get home. I can somewhat understand being leary if something is amiss or odd (drunks get a wide bearth and a call to law enforcement, but I might stand by within sight to make sure they aren't in immediate danger until LE arrives), but in general, its no big deal and I really enjoy it. I'm not into karma, but it does come back. The one time I needed a tow, I had help in 10 minutes or less.
 

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Unfortuneately, it seems most people are just ***holes. Last time my boat broke down we paddled for a good half hour on a busy lake, all the while moving backwards because of the wind, before someone finally gave us a tow. The guy that finally towed us actually offered to help fix it! :)
 

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I was on the shore of a local lake today. A boat that looked to be over capacity was having engine troubles. <br /><br />It was pretty much the same story. People skiing by them, jet ski's circled them, no one stopped to ask if they needed help. The first clue to me was the cover over the IO up and them cranking away on the engine. We left after a half hour or so, they were still drifting slowly toward the stumps.
 

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A few years back my brother and I broke down in the middle of a local lake about 15 minutes before a bass tournament was turned loose nearby. As we bobbed around trying to get started up, about 30 of these over-powered boats shot past us in no time. Although I didn't expect them to stop or give us a tow, as we realized their time was money, I couldn't believe how many of them either flipped us off or screamed at us to get the f*** out of the middle of the lake! <br />I used to try to make it a little easier for them and slow down when I passed as they were trolling the shorelines, but now I find myself leaning on the throttle just a little harder!
 

Tail_Gunner

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Re: Common courtesy (lack of)

Originally posted by bandit86:<br /> Sorry to Hijack the tread, but could someone expand on this red sky at night is a sailors delight? is it windy or a nice day? and how about the red sky in the moring sailors take warning, what happens then?<br /><br />By sailors, is it all mariners or just guys on sailboats?
Red sky @ night brings the next moring a sailor's delight....... ever been on the ocean on a beautiful morning........ starting with a serene evening?<br /><br /> Here's the tale: http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/weather-sailor.html
 

horsefly38425

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i pulled in over 20 last summer/one for 10 mi 25ft boat pulled it with my waverunerIII not fast tow upstream but I got'em back to there trailer :) I will always help. To those who don't :mad: I only had to be towed 1 time last yr. So i must be doing somthing right ;) ;)
 

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Okay, a story from the other extreme... I was having a beer on a friend's porch one evening several years ago when we heard some cries for help. We jogged down to the dock so see around the point and noticed the bow of a boat sticking out of the water and several heads bobbing around it. Yikes! We piled into my buddy's boat and ran out to the sunken boat. We pulled the four men out of the water, and were told that one of them was diabetic - and his testing kit and insulin had gone down with the boat! My buddy's mom is a RN so we ran them in to shore where she took over and drove them to the local emergency room.<br />So, this left me, my buddy, and his Dad alon with a case of beer and a sunken boat. Leaving the beer alone for the moment we drove back out to the bow-up boat, still out in the River with the stern hung up in the bottom muck. We managed to roll it over and hook a line up to and and towed it in. It was a 16-foot Starcraft, aluminum runabout with a 70hp Merc 3-banger on it.<br />Once we got it in shallow my buddy and I jumped into the water and walked it into their boat hoist, pulled the drain plug and started, slowly, pulling the boat out of the water. The cockpit was a mess of tangled fishing poles, lures from an open tackle box and gasoline that had seeped out of the tank's vent. <br />Now, I should preface the next step by saying that all three of us were boat racers and had dealing with a wet motor is not foreign to us by any means. So we grabbed the beer and some tools and started drying out the motor. Got a clean bucket and poured the clean gas off the water in the bottom of the tank, drained the carbs, pulled the plugs and flushed out the cylinders, etc. From the time the boat broke the surface to the time we had the motor running was about 25 minutes. <br /> We left the motor running and grabbed another beer just in time for the four boaters, now accompanied by the rest of their family returned from the hospital. The diabetic had gotten what he needed and all was well with that. I presented him with his soggy kit and he had a good chuckle, which turned to tears of gratitude when his son (who had not been on the boat) asked his dad why the boat was sitting at the dock and running if it had sunk less than a half hour ago? The look on his dad's face when he saw the boat more or less "normal" again was priceless.<br /> It was then that we discoverd the "how" part of the story. Apparently, one of the boaters, a very big fellow, had moved to the rear of the boat to help one of the other guys land a fish. At the same time a large boat wake hit the transom and washed over the back of the boat. The big guy stumbled a bit and sat on the transom to catch himself - just as another wave from the wake washed over and they reached the point of no return.<br /> Anyway, with everyone dried off, healthy and the boat working again, we fended off several offers of payment for our time and they were on their way. Next day, each of us had a really expensive bottle of Greek Ouzo delivered with a thank you note attached...<br />- Scott
 

JustMrWill

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Chinewalker,<br />We need more people like you. Great story.<br /><br />Hey...I passed a bunch of signs for 1000 Islands while on I-90 Friday. Looks like a nice area. Lots of boats being trailered. How far off I-90 are you?<br /><br />Opps...now I am hi-jacking my own thread :) <br /><br />-JMW
 

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I NEVER LEAVE ANYBODY IN DISTRESS .<br /><br />But in my area if you took the time to help every non-prepared boater with a problem you would never go boating <br /><br />It allways blows my mind when somebody will do a hafe AZZ jump start and then go out boating with a boat that cleary has BIG problems<br /><br />I have towed a few people in with my 24' sailboat to a safe place to anchor and they get upset because i cant go all the way in because of the 4' draft the boat has :rolleyes: <br /><br /> tommays
 

eeboater

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Yeah, this kind of thing just gets my goat. And for the four people who simply left them floating - I sincerely hope they never are in a situation of distress; or maybe we should so they can realize how important it is to simply lend a helping hand.
 

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When I lived in Ft. Likkerdale and regularly fished the Gulf Stream from my 16' Boston Whaler I think I must have towed in a distressed boat every other trip during tourist season. Some snowbirds were grateful, but not all had the good manners to thank me. . . they simply offered me money. <br /><br />Rescued a pitch-poled catamaran on Lake Waconia, MN sometime about 1980. Spent an hour getting that thing upright. They climbed aboard and sailed away without a word, except that they continued to argue about whose fault it was. That was all they did while my son and I tried to right their boat. <br /><br />There are gentlemen on the water, but there are also FORGALOMIC PEKALUMERS. :mad: Scott (Chinewalker) is one of the gentlemen, and he had the good luck to help out a gentleman.<br /><br />Whatever. . .If you pass up a vessel in distress without at least offering help you are no seaman, you are one of those others.
 

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I boat on the St Lawrence not far from Chinewalkers place.In 51 when I was 8 years old <br /> on a dark very stormy night we thought we heard someonbe calling help out in Eel Bay.We jumped in the boat and headed out I spotted a head in the water just in time to keep my sister from running over him in the dark.These guys had headed out in a fast little boat to see the tourboat wreck in the narrows near our house.Their boat flipped and they had been drifting for hours with life cushions twisted on their arms so they wouldn't lose them.But the cushions had begun to weigh them down and they couldn't get them off. <br /> Any way happy ending.Back then no phones or electric on the island so we returned them home the next day.2 very happy exhausted guys.When I was about 12 on a beautiful still night a little wood inboard hit a shoal out in the bay and sank in the dark with 2 adults 2 teen boys and a greatdane dog.Of course I had left our boat almost empty so my folks ran out of gas just about 100 ft from the dock just as it started to pour rain. They paddled with a landing net to get in.Still no electric or phone so they spent the night.Imagine a tiny little cottage with 8 wet people and a dog all trying to get settled for the night.<br />When I was about 18 I spotted what I thought was an SOS flashing in the main channel in front of Thousand Island Park.Turned out to be a small 1940s Century inboard had hit a big flat shoal near the main channel ripped the strut out of the bottom again I was low on gas but towed them to Bill and Jacks at Fishers Landing. Boat was so full he could barely get it out with his big 1 ton GMC pickup.Got a very nice thank you in the mail and $10 when 30 cents would buy a gallon of gas even up there.Don't know how he got my address he must have had to do some research.Pulled an outboard with a smashed lower unit off the same shoal about a month later.Back then you didn't see many boats out in the dark and it could be a long wait just to see one let alone arrange a tow and of course no one had 2 way radio and of course no cell.Then there was the neighbors sea plane rescue and the cruiser sinking on the same shoal in the bay.Cruiser people just gave us a number to call and said they would wait on the boat sunk and sitting on the shoal. <br /> Talk about casual.
 

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Hi Mr. Will,<br /> I'm about 90 miles north of the Thruway, just off I-81 before you cross over in Canada...<br />- Scott
 

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One of my friends just put a new V-8 in his runabout. Monday morning conversation went something like this.<br /><br /><br />"Hey Bud, How'd your new motor work out this weekend?"<br /><br /> "Ran great, but, still having that overheating problem...I made one pass and came back to the dock and killed it. Wouldn't start back up, Too hot, weak starter I guess."<br /><br />"Sorry to hear it, Is that all ya did over the weekend?"<br /><br />"No, I waded down into the water and helped some fisherman at the ramp. His trailer had a broken bunk on it and I held it in place while he loaded his boat."<br /><br />"Really..."<br /><br />"Yep, he even leaned out the window and thanked me as he was driving off. I would have waved back, but, I was doing my best to paddle my boat up on my trailer at the time............"
 
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