Converting 9.9 to Electric Start

[bankerjohn]

I'm considering purchasing an electric start kit for my 1996 4-stroke Evinrude (E10FREDR). I'm not sure if the start button switch is part of the kit (176449) and the switch doesn't seem to be available separately (584732). But my main question is ... where is the button located?

I've looked at my rope-start motor, and all the parts diagrams I can find, but can't figure out where this button should be located. My guess would be on the lower engine cover ... but where?

Any help would be appreciated! A picture would be worth a 1000 words!

 

[Rick.]

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I had a look at the diagram for your motor with electric start and I could not find the start button. On 70's and 80's the button is on the lower cowl on the starboard side uner the lpate where the choke,kill switch' pull rope is found. It is well hidden even on those motors. Does your kit say you will need a new flywheel as well? Sorry I can't help. Rick.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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well looking at the diagram, the push button and solenoid are one unit. so it has to be in a place large enough on the lower cowl, for the solenoid to mount.

 

[bankerjohn]

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well looking at the diagram, the push button and solenoid are one unit. so it has to be in a place large enough on the lower cowl, for the solenoid to mount.

I'm confused by your comment ... the diagrams I've found show the start button assembly (435749) and the start switch assembly (584732) on the STEERING & SHIFT HANDLE diagram ... while the solenoid assembly (584580) is on the STARTER MOTOR & SOLENOID diagram.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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this is what is was looking at.
http://www.crowleymarine.com/brp_parts/diagrams/8106.cfm

 

[bankerjohn]

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Here's the diagram showing the start button and start switch assemblies:

http://www.crowleymarine.com/brp_parts/diagrams/17890.cfm

 

[tashasdaddy]

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mine sure looks a lot easier to install. battery cable to solenoid, hot side, cold side cable to starter, ground to block. drill hole for start button and solenoid assembly. you still use same kill switch.

what worries me, is they have part 11, the mounting bracket as an obsolete part NLA.

the only difference i see in the wire harness is the addition of the rectifier/regulator, which you could just keep the battery charged.

 

[bankerjohn]

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Here's a picture of the lower engine cowl ... with the rubber grommets in place for the present rope-start configuration of my motor.

My thinking is ... the only place that a start button could be mounted is to the left of manual choke button, where the shift and throttle cables would go if it was a remote start motor.

Can anyone confirm that I'm correct?

 

[CATransplant]

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Here's the diagram showing the start button and start switch assemblies:

http://www.crowleymarine.com/brp_parts/diagrams/17890.cfm

Looks to me like it fastens through a little bracket onto the shift handle. Seems awkward to me, but that's how it appears. They don't show lines from the start switch to it's final location, but there is a little cap screw on the side of the shift handle that looks to me to be where the start switch bracket would go.

This is going to be a very expensive conversion, you know, right? I assume you're doing it so you can start the motor remotely from the steering position. Is that correct?

Or do you need the electric start for a medical reason? If that's the case, it's probably worth the price. If not, then I'd walk back and yank the rope, then go back to the wheel.

 

[bankerjohn]

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Your suggestion as to the mounting location is certainly different from "tashasdaddy's" assertion that the solenoid and the push button are combined in one unit! I'm still betting on the slot where the remote shift and throttle cables would go if it was a "remote" model!

It's a tiller model ... and as I said originally, I'm considering the purchase of an electric start kit ... haven't bought one yet. I'm mainly trying to investigate what it will take to install one.

Main reason for converting is that my wife is pretty "puny" ... has a hard time starting a 3hp lawn mower, or our Echo leaf blower ...

 

[Vic.S]

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Tahsasdaddy is usually right about things but on this occasion I think he is wrong. I think the solenoid is just a solenoid and that the start button is separate from it, as shown in the diagram you give a link to.
The diagram and parts list for the kit shows both the solenoid and the button!
Whether the button fits into the tiller or not I have no idea, but it looks unlikely that there is room there for it. There's no particular reason for it to be mounted there either.
As you say there is no obvious place on the front panel for it other than the position for the remote control cables but I am pretty sure it is not intended that it should go there. There is of course no reason for it to be on the front panel, it could go on the side but you would expect there to be a blanked off position for it.

I dont know how deeply you have investigated the idea or if you have a price for the kit. The starter, the new flywheel, the stator, and the cable harness alone come to nearly $1000 without all the smaller bits and pieces

For a diagram and list of all the parts in the kit go to SHOP2.EVINRUDE.COM Select OB ACCESSORIES from the drop down list (Not the Accessories tab) Select your year (1996), then ELECTRICAL then right at the very bottom you will find the TILLER ELECTRIC START KIT FOR 9.9 and 15 HP 4 Strokes

Still no clue where the starter button goes but compared with all the other work necessary to fit the kit that i would think will be the least of your worries.

 

[bankerjohn]

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Still no clue where the starter button goes but compared with all the other work necessary to fit the kit that i would think will be the least of your worries.

I've spent several hours Googling for a picture, with no success! Surely someone owns a "tiller electric" Evinrude (or Johnson) 9.9hp or 15hp motor of this vintage ... that can tell me where the start button is located!!??

 

[tashasdaddy]

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ever thought of ordering an owners or service manual. im sure the owner manual. would have a picture or diagram, where the essentials are. http://www.outboardbooks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=models.main&year=1996&ID=86631

please go back a edit your pictures to the proper size.

 

[bankerjohn]

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ever thought of ordering an owners or service manual. im sure the owner manual. would have a picture or diagram, where the essentials are. http://www.outboardbooks.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=models.main&year=1996&ID=86631

please go back a edit your pictures to the proper size.

"When all else fails, read the instructions ..."

I pulled out the owner's manual ... and what do you know ... there's a picture of the motor that shows where the start button (16) is located! It appears to be attached to the shift handle ... but I can't tell exactly how from the picture:

Nor can I tell from the picture how the wires from the switch enter the engine cowl. Sure would like to have a close-up picture of an actual motor!

(I reduced the size of my previous picture ... is it OK now?)

 

[bankerjohn]

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I finally got a picture of the start button on a 1993 2-stroke motor. It's mounted to the bottom of the shift lever. Looks identical to my 1996 4-stroke.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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i guess the puzzle is solved. congrats

 

[bankerjohn]

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I dont know how deeply you have investigated the idea or if you have a price for the kit. The starter, the new flywheel, the stator, and the cable harness alone come to nearly $1000 without all the smaller bits and pieces

I hope I've hit a "home run" ... got a "new in open box" electric start kit (176449) off eBay for $175! Includes the flywheel, stator, battery cables, solenoid, start button, starter, etc. ... and the instructions to hopefully install all that's included!

 

[Vic.S]

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only $175! That was quite a good buy then. Good luck with the installation.

 

[CATransplant]

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I hope I've hit a "home run" ... got a "new in open box" electric start kit (176449) off eBay for $175! Includes the flywheel, stator, battery cables, solenoid, start button, starter, etc. ... and the instructions to hopefully install all that's included!

Wow! That's a terrific deal! Good on ya!

 

[tx1961whaler]

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The miracle of eBay !! One man's open box cast off for a 13 year old motor is another man's treasure! Sometimes I hate to see old motors broken up and sold off on eBay, but it beats having them thrown in the dump.