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HollaGeo

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I recently bought myself a 1987 19 Foot Invader. It has a Merc. I/O. No idea what size, etc. I took the boat for a sea trial and she was fast. Looking for an estimate here. To do a "MASSIVE" tune-up on the engine, get the gauges working again, etc. How much would I be looking at? Figuring that everything needs to be fined tuned.
 

DHPMARINE

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$ $ $ $<br />Could you take your car to Midas and ask them this same question about your car ?<br /><br />DHP
 

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the smart people on this board can't help you without you giving good info. engine model o/d model, which gauges arn't working. got the idea. read thru the post and searches to find your numbers
 

Scaaty

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An 87 in saltwater? Your first I/O? You just need to start emptying your wallet....everything that you think needs fixing is nothing compared what you will find out really needs fixing. Been there, done that, got the bills.....
 

HollaGeo

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Once I get the engine/gauges working everything else is cosmetic. It's MY first I/O, not the first I/O i have been around. That's the problem with a lot of you boaters, you make "mountains out of mole hills". You take an easy fix and break something else in the mean time. I bought the boat for $2k and if everything goes according to plan, I should spend $1k getting it to mint condition. That includes wax, teak oil, etc. The engine/gauges is my main focus.
 

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to give you and honest answere many shops will not even repiar a unit that age because its so easy for a mole hill to turn into a mountain<br /><br />ANY shop thay will repiar it will also have a corrision dammage wavier that if it breaks comeing apart its your dime<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

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Originally posted by HollaGeo:<br /> Once I get the engine/gauges working everything else is cosmetic. It's MY first I/O, not the first I/O i have been around. That's the problem with a lot of you boaters, you make "mountains out of mole hills". You take an easy fix and break something else in the mean time. I bought the boat for $2k and if everything goes according to plan, I should spend $1k getting it to mint condition. That includes wax, teak oil, etc. The engine/gauges is my main focus.
What's the Purpose of this thread,..???........ :rolleyes: <br />You've Already Got All the Answers............... :rolleyes: <br /><br />HollaGeo,.........<br />1st You ask a Question that Can Not Possibly be Answered with the Little Info that You provide,..............<br />And Then,......<br />You dump on Everybodies Answers,...........<br /><br />If you want Good Advice,........... Give Good Info............<br /><br />But,.. With Your Attitude,........ It Won't be coming from Me........................
 

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I agree with you Bondo.He could have at least said what a 'MASSIVE' tune-up meant. Carb overhaul and valve job ? ,or if it went as deep as re-ringing the pistons.Maybe a complete set of SmartGauges( I think that's over a grand in itself ).<br /><br />DHP (just another one of them 'boaters')
 

Weirdwalt

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Well you never know, he may have bought a boat that's been sitting shrink wrapped in a garage for awhile and is indeed in mint condition. But then he would have paid more than 2K for it I imagine. I shudder whenever I get a boat a dude says he paid 2K for. You know the seller was happy to get that for it and knows he ripped him. Hey maybe those gauges ARE working and 0 oil pressure is what it's actually got!
 

MRS

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If you are worried about the gauges change them and the wiring if you cant then pay the price to some one who can. you are you boaters also if you own a boat. Other wise buy a new boat. :rolleyes:
 

Haut Medoc

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Post the year, make, model & serial # if possible.....There are plenty of people here that will help you out if you are more specific....If it is running, that is a good place to start....Is it sea water cooled or a closed system? That in itself would be helpful as a start.....It is extremely hard to furnish the answers you are seeking, sight unseen...Got any pic's? What part of N.J.?, BTW....JK
 
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2 years later....E-bay listing: '87 19' Invader, Merc I/O, Motor:Yes (still no idea what size). Massive maintinance! Over $20,000 invested. Sacrafice $2,499 "buy it now".<br /><br />The happiest days of a boater: the day he buys it and the day he sells it!
 

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Originally posted by SeaRay24Sorrento:<br /> 2 years later....E-bay listing: '87 19' Invader, Merc I/O, Motor:Yes (still no idea what size). Massive maintinance! Over $20,000 invested. Sacrafice $2,499 "buy it now".<br /><br />The happiest days of a boater: the day he buys it and the day he sells it!
Ayuh,........<br />If He can turn a wrench,+ Figure out What He's Got,.......<br />It Could make a Nice Little Package,.............. ;) <br /><br />After All,............<br /><br />It Could be Worse,.......... Much, Much Worse,................... :( <br /><br />It Could be a Bilgeliner ,........ With OMC Power.......................... :eek: :D
 

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It Could be a Bilgeliner ,........ With OMC Power..........................
Personally, I think your constant referral to Bayliners as Bilgeliners needs to STOP. <br />It's degrading, demeaning, and completely unnecessary.<br />Have a little class for a change.
 

Seamus

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Originally posted by HollaGeo:<br /> ...she was fast...To do a "MASSIVE" tune-up on the engine, get the gauges working again, etc. ... Figuring that everything needs to be fined tuned.
This is a little confusing. If "she was fast" what makes you believe she needs a "massive tune-up"? It seems like your engine and outdrive are probably pretty much OK. Apart from making sure your outdrive boot is not going to spring a leak and that the transom is sound, I think I would spend my time and money trouble shooting the guages and address other problems as they become apparent. Doing a massive amount of unneccesary work is a good way to ensure that you go broke quickly and never spend any time actually on the water. Change its oil, sure, and do an ignition tune up if it makes you feel better(or better yet, buy the parts and keep them handy on the boat in case you actually need them), but if it's running well, for God's sake, leave the carb and other bits alone. Periodic maintenence like lube on the outdrive should be performed as well. And ignore the naysayers who imply that an '87 is so old that it ought to just go straight to the scrap heap. Its a lot newer than anything I've ever owned.
 

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Oh, and I almost forgot. Be careful spending a lot of money on it. Right now, if you were to discover that, say, the outdrive is worthless and about to disintegrate, you're only out $2000 to scrap the whole thing, worst case scenario. Once you've spent another $2000(or$6k) rebuilding a motor that doesn't need to be rebuilt and THEN you discover that the outdrive is about to disintegrate... well, you'll be in a much sorrier condition. Drive it until you get to know what it most needs and THEN decide where to put your money and whether its worth it. Just my two cents.
 

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Oh, and one last thing. Think about putting some of your money into a SeaTow membership... and a good VHF :D ;)
 

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I bought the boat for $2k and if everything goes according to plan, I should spend $1k getting it to mint condition. That includes wax, teak oil, etc. The engine/gauges is my main focus.
Come on, HollaGeo - with that statement you've just contradicted yourself. A good chunk of your $1K will go toward the "wax, teak oil, etc", about $400 if you have it done, but you maintain that "engine/gauges is [your] main focus." Focus on the engine and gauges - if it won't run, it won't matter how it looks just sitting there.<br /><br />I'm one of the "you boaters" that you so brusquely mentioned in your previous post, and I bought a '92 bowrider with a '92 Merc I/O for about $2K, too, but I expected to spend at least half of the balance of what the boat is worth to make sure she's "fine-tuned" and safe to operate. You have to start out committed to the project; I'd get familiar with my mechanicals, get the Service Manuals (Don S has all the links you need) and be prepared mentally for whatever you find, good or bad. You bought an 18-year-old boat, dude - it doesn't matter if it was shrink-wrapped, it's still gonna need some TLC and close attention for the remainer of its service life.
 
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