Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

durban

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i have searched every where , but could not find a thermostat to do what i want it to do , there are a few on the market similar to what i had in mind , but does not suite my application , so i built my own, so i call it the closing thermostat ,the project iam working on is taking shape ,there were the 2 brass fittings are there's gonna be another one fitted the reason the other one gonna be fitted is to see if my closing thermostat gonna work , by measuring the flow one gonna have a spring inside it to push the thermostat back as the cold water comes in from the radiator , cheers
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

Im confused as to what you are trying to accomplish? What is wrong with a factory tstat?
 

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nothing wrong with a factory stat k , they open in a down ward direction to let hot water out k by compressing the spring blow ,once it gets to temp as the water cools down the spring pushes up & closes it , my one works in the opposite direction
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

i have 2 in my system one to open the other to close & they work at the same time
 

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i have 2 in my system one to open the other to close & they work at the same time

you can buy a closing stat for a car k , but they dont make anything for outboards & a car one noway gonna fit where i want it to fit & da outboard not designed for it either
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

HELLO durban i haven't used your paint mix yet ,but will later on in the spring . so one opens when cold and the other when hot -what are you trying to do? i see what you made .and you said you cannot find another one .i don't know why backward k
 

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NO when the water gets to temp one opens up to let the hot water out & the other one closes the circulation to the water pump allowing the water pump to pump cold water in from the radiator k
 

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NO when the water gets to temp one opens up to let the hot water out & the other one closes the circulation to the water pump allowing the water pump to pump cold water in from the radiator k

the water has to stay in the system by circulating it until it reaches the stat temp before cold water comes in k
 

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i enjoy your posts durban, but this one has me stumped? what is the benifit of your plan?
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

you intend to run this set up utilizing a car or truck radiator?
 

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who knows ? , i just like fiddling around & making things work & prove a point to myself that what i set out to do ,& maybe some time some where in the world , some one can benefit i got a brain & like to use it , simple as dat , cheers m8t
 

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i have a few ideas in my head , the radiator i am gonna fit is gonna fit inside , i will show you later how k
 

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today i fitted the thermostat cover with the mods inside & also on the cover gasket & the block , so far it all works as i have proved it to myself in previous posts , now the next step is to get the radiator ,pump , & fit , will keep you,s posted on progress .
 

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I don't understand the motivation. The reason for the original setup is simplicity and reliability. The only moving parts are the pump impeller splined to the drive shaft (simple and reliable), some spring operated thermostats (simple and reliable), and a bi-directional water control valve (simple and reliable); nearly all of the components of the system are contained within the powerhead and thus are protected from accidental damage; the water supply is pre-cooled and limitless; there is no electrical requirement; there are no fans; replacement parts are easy to come by anywhere and can be changed with simple hand tools.

What you're describing has many custom made moving parts which would be difficult or impossible to come by in a bad situation, would require electric fans which are a serious potential point of failure, recirculates water that could overheat the motor if a problem arises, introduces the risk of not having enough coolant due to a surprise leak, adds critical external hoses which are more potential points of failure especially with a cowling going on and off regularly, and so on.

As a pure fabrication project it seems very interesting but from a practical standpoint it seems like you're taking a simple reliable effective mechanical system and making it complicated and electrical.

That said, it'll be interesting to see what you come up with here so keep the pictures coming
 

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keep the post coming durban!! just love to see people think "outside the box". but i have to ask.......what do you use the heinz ketchup for????......other than the obvious.....kraft dinner!!!!
 

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keep the post coming durban!! just love to see people think "outside the box". but i have to ask.......what do you use the heinz ketchup for????......other than the obvious.....kraft dinner!!!!

i used it to make a primer bulb , cause its got the screw top that you can close when you pump fuel , then after you squeeze the bottle , turn the lid & it sucks air back into the bottle ,then close & OPEN THE TOP AGAIN , & pump try it it works
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

I don't understand the motivation. The reason for the original setup is simplicity and reliability. The only moving parts are the pump impeller splined to the drive shaft (simple and reliable), some spring operated thermostats (simple and reliable), and a bi-directional water control valve (simple and reliable); nearly all of the components of the system are contained within the powerhead and thus are protected from accidental damage; the water supply is pre-cooled and limitless; there is no electrical requirement; there are no fans; replacement parts are easy to come by anywhere and can be changed with simple hand tools.

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What you're describing has many custom made moving parts which would be difficult or impossible to come by in a bad situation, would require electric fans which are a serious potential point of failure, recirculates water that could overheat the motor if a problem arises, introduces the risk of not having enough coolant due to a surprise leak, adds critical external hoses which are more potential points of failure especially with a cowling going on and off regularly, and so on.

As a pure fabrication project it seems very interesting but from a practical standpoint it seems like you're taking a simple reliable effective mechanical system and making it complicated and electrical.

That said, it'll be interesting to see what you come up with here so keep the pictures coming

I will tell you a story k , When i launched my boat one morning in South Africa , the beach & gradient of the sand where it meets the water can be anything from 30 degrees & up , depending on the tides , the waves that break on the beach can be 1meter & up , when you launch you face your boat to wards the sea , when the wave breaks it washes up the beach , then 2 guys push the boat in the water fast , before the next wave comes , & make sure you keep the nose towards the waves all the time , then once you in the water start the motors & GO

On this particular morning the motor did not start fast enough , it was cold , the next wave came & turned my boat side ways , the next wave after that , turned me upside down on the beach , my boat looked like a helicopter with the 2 props sticking up in the air , my mate went to fetch the tractor & TURNED IT BACK UP ON THE BEACH . this was a very costly day for me ,

now coming to your side of the story , if i had a radiator fitted , i could have warmed the motors up on the beach , then it would have started first shot , now this is a common occurrence you see on south African beaches , once it is in the water I will then switch over to the impeller . to circulate the water , so my plan is merely for the south African beaches , where you can warm your motor up on the beach , using the radiator , & then switch over to impeller , that gave me the idea to do this , i learned from the experience i had ,
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

That's a really interesting idea. I know it would certainly be handy to be able to warm up the motor before hitting the water. Good luck with that.
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

How long will the impeller last while you are running the engine on the beach for warm up??
 

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Re: Durban designs new closeing thermostat for rad con

That,s some to think about ways i can do it take the impeller out & suck the water up with the pump , i will come up with something .
 
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