E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

[BillP]

Re: E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

Originally posted by cobra 3.0:<br /> "Once I leave black I aint goin' back!" <br /><br />

I'm rolling on the floor laughing!!!

 

[TOHATSU GURU]

Re: E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

Just for giggles...Has anyone seen the fact sheet that Mercury has been distributing regarding E-Tech verus Optimax. It's funny and accurate. It also proves the point that you can pick a spec about two engines, at some RPM, and claim that one is "better" than the other. There can be a huge difference between accuracy and Truth. All manufacturers hype...All manufactuers are accurate...None are 100% truthful.(Actually one is, but I don't want to incite a riot)<br /><br />Between the Optibomb and E-Tech...I would go with the E-Tech. Regardless of the claims otherwise they are both DFI and how they inject is unimportant unless your a technophile. Both systems work. But, the E-tech is a little more refined at this point and has the edge.

 

[seahorse5]

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Originally posted by INTERNETOUTBOARDS:<br /> Just for giggles...Has anyone seen the fact sheet that Mercury has been distributing regarding E-Tech verus Optimax. It's funny and accurate.

It's not very accurate. Bass and Walleye Boats magazine, quoted often in the brochure, decided to weigh the motors on their own to check the accuracy. The weights were incorrect in the brochure.<br /><br />Also the emission specs printed about the particular Optimax are not listed anywhere on the EPA's emmission certification data sheets that are required.<br /><br />The bottom line is that Evinrude has said that 2 > 4, that DFI 2 strokes are better than 4 strokes, the the Mercury brochure confirms that, even to the detriment of their Verados.

 

[TOHATSU GURU]

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No, you missed the point. My point was that the Mercury sheet was accurate. It is 100% accurate. It's just not truthful. They used the magazine's data even though they knew it was flawed. They stated that they used the magazine's data so they would not get sued. I'm not arguing that the Mercury is the same or better than the E-Tech. I'm only pointing out how data can be manipulated to promote a product. I think that the Optimax EPA data is on the 07 cert sheet, but I don't know for sure as I don't care enough to look it up. Not the point...I'm only commenting about the marketing ploys.

 

[Texasmark]

Re: E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

Everyone is blowing smoke up your *** to get your money. End of subject.<br /><br />Mark

 

[Gordon Goldie]

Re: E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

Bottom line;<br /><br />There are no cr4p outboards from the major manufacturers any more. If there were - they would go out of business quickly.<br /><br />I did a fair bit of research before I bought my Etec90. I seriously considered both Suzuki and Honda 4 strokes.<br /><br />Main reasons why I chose Etec;<br />1. The dealer is very local to me.<br />2. I got a very good price from him (He also sells other brands).<br />3. The maintenance factor.<br />4. Economy is at least comparable with 4 strokes.<br />5. It's much lighter than the 4-strokes.<br /><br />I did 39 miles at over 4,000 rpm yesterday, on 50 litres (25 to 27knots). The engine is whisper quiet and ticks over at the quayside almost unnoticably. <br /><br />Time will not tell if I made the right choice, but it will tell if I made a good choice or not.

 

[TOHATSU GURU]

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"Time will not tell if I made the right choice, but it will tell if I made a good choice or not."<br /><br />That was very well put...And both accurate and truthful<br />

 

[jch7450]

Re: E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

Evinrude!!

 

[jch7450]

Re: E-Tech Evinrude vs Mercury

But these days there all good!

 

[Chunder06]

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For an interesting read, go to the Mercury Mariner and Johnson Evinrude trouble/repair section, the first 10 pages of John/Rude, not one Etec question with only a few Ficht questions where as the Merc/Marin there is the odd Opti question, so where do all you Opti/E-tech knockers get your information, it would seem both E-tech and Optimax are both great motors.

 

[dajohnson53]

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Not saying it's true, but it could be that many/most Opti and Etech (and maybe even ficht) are not DIY'ers - therefore don't go on the forums for advice. In fact, the newer technology is getting so that its not as easy to be a DIY'er. Just a theory, from someone running ancient technology because I can't afford the newer stuff.

 

[andy6374]

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We may be getting a little off topic but who cares. I agree with D as far as the new DFI technology is taking the DIY'ers out of the game. Obviously we can still change out our waterpump, tstat, and gearlube but that's about it, I can't check for error codes. I'd love to have an etec or optimax but I have to admit that the fancy fancy computer nature of these engines scares me.<br /><br />There is something to be said about a 2-stroke carbed engine. Its very simple and reliable. Everything is mechanical for the most part, the whole the hip bone is connected to the leg bone thing and if the hip bone is ok the leg bone will move. No worrying about a computer saying to lean out the mixture when in reality it might be lean already. <br /><br /><br />What could be simpler. You advance the throttle, it mechanically advances the timing and opens the carb throats. Damm all you need is good lync. & sync.<br /><br />If I could have a brand new engine (and an bottomless pocket for gas), I would take my engine or a brand new carb'd. Keep the fuel system up to par (clean carbs and working fuel pump) and the cooling system (waterpump, impeller,popppet...) nice nice and you'll have an engine that will run 3000+ hours.<br /><br />Just my 2 cents.

 

[steamboatwilly]

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andy6374 ,I could not have said that any better..

 

[Chunder06]

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Andy there is a guy on this site advertising laptop software to diagnose early ficht motors, give it time and you can DIY repairs on these new wizbang motors. As for your dreaming of time gone by pollution laws fixed that.

 

[phatmanmike]

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andy, i hear ya. ive got my 1994 merc 200hp offshore and i wouldnt trade it for the world.<br /><br />no computer, no software, nothing of that sort. heck i even undid the oil pump andnow its iven simpler. cant be beat!

 

[JasonJ]

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As much as I love Mercs, I must admit I would probably go Etec. The fact that I have a 36 year old Merc as a main motor and a 41 year old "rude as a kicker should indicate what my financial status is. Yeah, I get pretty bad economy, but $15,000+ can get me another motor or a whole bunch of gas....These new motors are great. Too bad they cost as much as an entire boat....

 

[Chunder06]

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Any reason Jason why E-tech over Optimax? That old red band must have given you some troubles over the 36 years for you to change color.

 

[rodbolt]

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on your 300 hour/3 year maint schedule. please double check the fine print. so far its not working in my area where 100 hours a month in sand filled water can be a normal month.<br /> while I think E-tec may work if the electronics dont fail like normal merc/jonnyrude electronics do only time will tell.<br /> on my personal motor it will be carbs and mechanical advanced CDI ign systems until I cant get/rebuild one anymore.<br /><br /> one of the really funny things is the water pump, same part number as many of the carbed motor pumps yet the carbed motor pumps had a yearly/100 hour inspection schedule. wonder what changed ?<br />sounds like marketing at its finest

 

[orca]

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Rodbolt, regarding the water pumps, You obviously havn't been reading all the E-tec blurb.<br />These engines are so enviormently friendly that the water that gets sucked into the water intakes is extra super clean. Therefore the water pumps are going to last three times as long.<br />Simple really.

 

[montanaman]

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I have a opti 150 and love it. E-tec didn't have a 150 in 2004 when i purchased my boat or I would have considered it as well. It's quiet, fuel effecient, and performs the way I want it too. Try out a boat with each engine and see for yourself which one you like.