Evinrude 1995 60hp running terrible help needed

phillnjack2

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Model no BE60TLEOC
Serial no G 03751787
Year 1995



Ok here we go again :facepalm:

The engine was running very nice, plenty of power nice idle, picking up very good but no more than 5700 revs.
ok so the WOT revs are a bit low for a 13.5x 15inch pitch prop on a 13ft boat, but i could live with that for now.
maybe its got a limiter for 5700 ?

Then the other day i take it out and after about 1 hour running at various throttle speeds it started to run very
rough and surging from anything under 3000 rpm.

water temp the same 60 to 65 degree's as always, plenty of fresh fuel still in tank,tank vent definitely open and
squeezing the fuel bulb made no difference at all.

the engine ran like this for a while then would surge and go ok once over 3,000 rpms so i put it down to dirt in
the carbs on the low running side and gave up for the day.

So i come home and next day take off the carbs, strip all 3 right down and look for dirt,any little spec of dirt,
no trace of any dirt at all and still i put 120 psi airline through everything to make double sure its clean as a whistle.
checked float levels ofcourse while it was all apart and all ok,no signs of any leaks or bad gaskets etc.
checked compression with cold engine but throttle wide open and the results are
top 153, middle 148, and bottom 152 so compression seems fine.
Ive checked spark gap on plugs and yes they are all good with nice tan colour on the centre ceramic.
spark seems to be jumping good as well but now the engine dont even want to run at an idle speed !!!!!!!!

its like the timing has gone way out, yet nothing on the engine had been touched since it was running right.
i do think the temp has gone up around 5 degrees more than it was a couple of months back but the river temp has
also risen a lot due to the sudden heatwave we are getting here in the uk at the moment (it wont last ).

Now again today ive checked the plugs and the compression and the spark, but this realy isnt doing much good.
once i manage to get it to run over 3,000 rpm it shoots to max real quick as if nothing is wrong.
now im pretty sure its not dirt in the carbs, i checked them out real good and also have a spare set ready to be
switched over as i cleaned then the same time as well just to make sure they are always ready if needed.

its like the timing is totaly wrong, yet nothing has been changed on the settings.
the fast idle works for the normal time then when that cuts out the engine dies unless i manualy rev it up and
keep it over 1200 rpm.
before this problem happened the engine would run lovely at 700 in gear and about 800 in nutral.
i have ran the boat down the river for 1/2 mile at 7 to 800 rpm before with no problems at all.

i am not scared of anything mechanical, but electrics are not my thing, and im wondering if it could be electrical ???

any help or advice or any ideas at all will be greatly recieved.

im obviously doing something very very wrong :facepalm:


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phillnjack2

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Re: Evinrude 1995 60hp running terrible help needed

No replies ?
surely someone knows what im not doing right ?
or has a possible fix for this ?
or tell me what they would check for ?

is there a way i can check or test the cdi unit for example >

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Re: Evinrude 1995 60hp running terrible help needed

Go to the CDI website and look up your engine, they have great trouble shooting charts that will help you check out you ignition system.
 

phillnjack2

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Re: Evinrude 1995 60hp running terrible help needed

they dont have any definitive ways to check the cdi unit unless your an electrician.
no normal person just happens to have the equipment they talk of.
dva meters for example, who normaly has a dva meter ?

its a good site if your well into electonics i suppose.

ive also just read on another site it could be flywheel hub magnet come loose !!!!!!!!
i have a spare flywheel and will try that once i get this off AGAIN .
while under there ill check timer base connections and bolts for tightness etc.

tommorow ill dig out the spares i have and see if i can just swap the lot over, ill try each bit first so as i know if or
what is or is not the problem.

im getting realy fed up with this engine now, i can see me switching back tothe dark side and get me another black motor if
this rude keeps playing up.
i never had any major problems with the black engines...




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Re: Evinrude 1995 60hp running terrible help needed

Today im going to try swapping over the complete electrical system 1 piece at a time to find out whats going on.
im going to be swapping over
1 flywheel and then test engine
cdi pack then test engine
timerbase then test engine
coils then test engine
if this dont work im then going to be swapping the whole engine back to a suzuki.
im fed up with the omc engines now, ive found this to be a bloody joke for reliabilty compared a 12 year older suzuki.

I can run the suzuki fine on the same fuel tank so its not bad fuel.
even run a 4hp finnicky merc on same fuel with no problems.
so the fuekl can be counted as good.

the carbs have not only been cleaned 3 times to make 100% sure, but ive even cleaned out the spare set and ut them on
so definitely noi dirt in the carbs.

fuel pump ??? well this could possibly be a problem as ive not got a brand new kit, just cleaned and put this one back together.
BUT i went through 2 vro pumps a while back thinking they were dead on the fuel side when i had this problem for 2 days.
switching to premix and old style pump seemed to cure it, but now im thinking maybe just coincidence and not the real fix.

so if its not dirty or stale/bad fuel, and not electrics i will be stumped good and proper.

will let you all know results when i am finnished.


phill
 
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