First Boat Project

[jetskier16]

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Even though this is way down the road, I was thinking I want to replace all the wires that run from the remote controls to the OB. Now the Seloc wiring diagram says that out of the 7 wires that i would run, 5 of them need to be 18 GA.

Would using 5 conduct, 18GA sprinkler wire work? Seems like it would be water proof and convenient. This is what i had in mind:
http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

 

[Alpheus]

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It is a good idea to use marine grade approved wiring...

http://www.iboats.com/basics/marine_wire.html

 

[Woodonglass]

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Have you considered and old Trash Can for your "Water Barrel" Or for 10 bucks you could make your own out of a sheet of "Chip Board" from lowes, and some caulk. I bet you got some old house paint layin around some where to paint it with to make it water proof enough for your purose. Make a box, seal it with caulk and you're in business. 7/16 sheet goes for $6.76 in Oklahoma. More than enuf to make your tank.

I'm Just Sayin...

 

[mthuirer]

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I just went thru this with my evinrude which has a similar port.. I pulled the thermostat and replaced the impeller thinking that may be the reason no water was coming out.. I was under the assumption that water stream would exit like the pee hole in a modern outboard. What has happened with my 1959 evinrude is that only a fine mist comes out from that port. That appears to be more of an exhaust port. If you hold your hand against it you should feel a fine mist. I have ran my outboard on the lake for aprox. 1/2 hour and was able to keep my hand on the head for several minutes afterwards telling me that it is circulating. I think the water comes out of the lower unit just below the fin.. Not saying I am right.. But, like I said before.. I thought a stream of water should exit there.. But that is not the case, just more exhaust then anything along with a fine mist. This is just my opinion.. you can see my posting and see my concerns when I was working on mine..

 

[Firefox11]

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You are right... That is mostly an exhaust port for that year 'rude. My dad use to work on those quite a bit, and you wouldn't get the water squirting out effect from that hole like u think. I think at higher RPM on the lake u get a little stream out of it, but thats it. Even on some of the older mercurys before the weeper was available on outboards, the exhaust ports would sorta spray a little water out, but thats it.

 

[jetskier16]

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Wood- I think i may have found a friend who's dad has an old plastic barrel for wine making. But thanks for the tip!

Thanks also for the exhaust info. Ya when it started there seemed to be quite a bit of exhaust coming out of that port. I figure if the pump had gone bad the motor would have over heated by now and would have been much harder to start. Regarless I need to replace the impelar.

Thanks you guys.

I'll have pics and a vid of the front panel off the lower unit some time this evening.

 

[jetskier16]

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So didn't get the front panel off yet due to rain. This weather in CA is so annoying. It was pouring rain all weekend, then as soon as we put a new tarp that actually covers the boat it's sunny out!

Anyway, i did go out and buy a 4 1/2" angle grinder from HF for $10. I also got a wheel for it. Will this set up work for when we replace the floor and prob. stringers?

 

[jetskier16]

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Also, should i leave the OB up or down?

 

[ezmobee]

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Down to let the water drain. Crucial in cold areas, probably a good idea anywhere.

 

[redfury]

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Have compressed air available to blow out that cheap grinder when you are working on the boat frequently, or be prepared to handle a smoking grinder before too long.

I've found that the fiber reinforced sanding discs will give you the best performance for the buck on a grinder. Buy the hard plate attachment and a few 60 grit discs for tearing down to good glass....be sure to wear a respirator at all times, plus goggles. The cheap Tyvek suits you can buy from a paint store will help keep you from itching, but get a bottle of talc and rub your wrists and forearms with talc to prevent glass dust from getting into your pores.

Looks like a great project. Replacing the impeller is a must for any old motor. I wonder if you could tap in somewhere on that motor and install your own tell tale hose. I bet the 'rude forums has some kind of answer for that.

Have fun, take tons of pics before you start tearing into the boat, make measurements and mark lines where things used to be when you remove them. If you plan the work before you start, and work the plan, there won't be any obstacle that you can't overcome.

 

[jetskier16]

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Ya, I hadnt been to a HF until i got this grinder. Turns out they specialize in cheaply made tools, haha. I know its some Chinese made crap but I just plan on using it for this project and for ten bucks I dont care what happens to it, lol. Didnt think of the particles in the housing though, good tip.

Thanks for the pointers, i havent heard of the talac tip before. Can that be used to protect the face where the mask and goggles dont cover or should i where a mask or something?

Oh, and do you mean the flap disks for the 60 grit sanding wheel?

 

[redfury]

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Nope, I mean the fiber reinforced sanding disks. The flappers are nice, but the initial grit and speed goes away pretty quick. They are nice for feathering and smoothing though. I used them for my boat, and went through about 15 of them of various grits and manufacturers.

The Talc can be used anywhere you want to protect your skin. Cool showers afterward to keep your pores from opening up, and sweep your dust out and then vacuum it out. If you use a shop vac, get the shop vac BAG, the dust will clog up the pleated filter, plus the vac will launch dust all over the place without it, which could lead to damage to the vac.

If you are doing all this work where the boat sits in the pictures, you'll want to do your best at dust control, or you are going to have some very upset neighbors if you start coating everything they have outside ( laundry ) with glittering dust. Courtesy for the neighbors keeps your project happy . Ideally, a cheap party tent enclosure would be enough, or something made out of tarps and 2x4's, if space allows it.

It would also help to have something like a ladder or make a small set of steps to get in and out of your boat, especially with those tyvek suits....get a size larger than you think, you'll need the room for stooping over.

 

[jetskier16]

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Sorry, could you possibly give me a link of the sanding disks, I'm still not quite sure what i'm looking for.

Thanks!

 

[redfury]

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Flapper disc http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200309205_200309205

Fiber reinforced disc http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200322069_200322069

 

[jetskier16]

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Flapper disc http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200309205_200309205

Fiber reinforced disc http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200322069_200322069

Thanks so much!

 

[redfury]

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There are different grades of the flappers if you use them, there are the kind that will screw right onto your angle grinder, and then there are the type that use the arbor that came with the grinder. I really didn't notice a huge difference between the two types, but others have reported that they liked the screw on types better. One advantage to them is they push the flapper out from the grinder, which can be helpful in some situations.

 

[jetskier16]

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So the real work on this thing is about to get started. If i just have to replace stringers/core we are not going to remove the cap, but I'm sort of having a hard time checking to see if the transom needs to be replaced. any suggestions? I'll post some more detailed pics of the transom tomorrow.

 

[jetskier16]

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So, im starting to get supplies together and was wondering what type of gloves i should use. I hear that latex gloves wont cut it?

 

[mark1961]

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I'm sort of having a hard time checking to see if the transom needs to be replaced. any suggestions? I'll post some more detailed pics of the transom tomorrow.

A crude method is to tilt the motor up and lever on the lower unit and check for flex in the transom but most here recommend taking core samples by drilling into the transom timber starting somewhere near the bottom with a small bit and checking the shavings. If you get dry samples from this area chances are your transom is still good, dark and or wet mush would be bad news. The sample holes can be sealed up using 3m 5200.

Btw, sorry off topic but, i have been trying to post some pics on here for while without success, i either get "upload failed" (from computer) or "invalid file" (photobucket img code) when uploading, i think the file may be too big or something, you seem to be able to post pics with no problems, can you advise me what im doing wrong or how to reduce the file size so they can be uploaded successfully?

 

[jetskier16]

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What I do is upload the pics I want on photobucket. Then when you view a picture on there, move you mouse over the pic, up at the top of the picture a tool bar will come up. There will be a tab named "resize" put your mouse on the tab but dont click it. some different sizes should come down. click on the 680x480 (something close to that) then to the left of the pic copy the Direct link code. then on iboats click on Insert Image and paste that code in there.

Its sound like a lot but once you do it a few times its fast. Let me know if you are still having problems. And thanks for the advise.

Also, what size drill bit should a use?