First post, first boat restore...

Thelonghull

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Have a new question about gas tanks, The boat i am restoring didn't come with one so i mounted a 5 gallon container in the back of the boat, i am planning on putting an 115 h.p. engine on it 1979 Glassmaster. My question is, is there a gas gauge i can get for the 5 gallon gas container so i can read the gauge from my dash? Also I was planning on doing some tubing/waterskiing with this boat. Will 5 gallons of gas last a day on the lake? or should I add another container. Also do I need a gas vent for fumes. Not sure how to vent the area or even if i need too... Any help would be great thanks in advance...
 

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For what it's worth, I doubt 5 gals will do, esp tubing. This is my 1st boat, but I've paid for gas at the dock many, many times. 4-5 guys, 1 mid 1980's OB fish & ski, w/ a 70-75HP mid-80's motor and we burned 2 tanks of fuel in 4-5 days (1/2 day the 1st day, and 1/2 the last w/ 3-4 full days in between) on Lake Cumberland in KY. We'd use 20gal +/-. Always left tanks full for next time, and put a tankful in every trip, late the 2nd full day usually. Then 1 of us would go top off while the rest of the crew packed the gear. I think his tri-hull had a 10-12gal tank. Cumberland has some area to cover, and we stretched the boat's legs every trip. But sunrise to sunset we were out on the water.

Of course, it also depends on how 'fully loaded' your boat is, how hard you hammer the throttle, and how much of your running around is done at WOT. An OB's fuel consumption will perform the same as your car's gas mileage does with respect to these variables. Raise any 1 of those, & fuel economy goes down. Raise them all, and it goes down a lot. Running & gunning all day w/ 3-4 kids on tubes, 5 gals won't go to far. Me & my dad slow trolling, or drifting at idle fishing for strippers, we could go all weekend on 5 gals. A family of 3 w/ just 1 kid tubing & mom & dad cruising at 3/4 throttle would be somewhere in between.

If you want more specifics for your engine, you should post as much info as you have in a OB thread for your make engine.

IE:
Thread title: Best guess on Fuel economy of a 115hp 1979 Evinrude XYZ OB motor 3cyl/4cyl/6cyl/V4/V6

Post that in the Johnson/Evinrude OB motor forum & ask everything you asked here, there. In your questions, include everything you know about your boat, how you'll be using it most often, and any details you can. Boat weight wet (full w all fluid & gas), if there is a coast guard capacity/weight/max HP inspection sticker, include those details. Be prepared to get some grief if you are over powering the 1979 Glassmaster. I don't need to max out my motor. I'm putting a 65HP motor on a transom rated for up to a 75HP motor, replacing a 35HP. I expect about average fuel economy, and above average performance with the 65HP. But this 65HP is known for having an HUGE appetite for fuel. I won't be driving it hard, it's a 1960 boat, nor running it for long periods of time at WOT. I intend to run 2 6 gal gas cans full time & carry a small 2-3gal can as a backup/spare just in case can.

See the page below, it lists all the known models of Glassmasters for 1979:

http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Glassmaster__1979/bp/54br1199y

As for the fuel & a vent hose, or venting the area for fumes, you'll need to provide details. Does your motor need pressurized (2 line) fuel tanks or not? I have posted most of this thinking your 115 would be an OB not an IB/OB or strictly an IB. But w/out details I can't fully answer your vent question. If your running an IB/OB or IB, there will be a bilge ventilation fan needed to remove any & all fumes from the motor doghouse prior to starting the motor. These IB/OB & IB motors require fresh air to be directed into the doghouse to feed O2 to the motor, so this is often done w/ vented louvers on the motor cover or along the outside hull of the rear gunnels. This is not to be considered instead of a bilge fan, they are 2 totally separate ventilation functions that need to be operational & functional independently. Although the bilge fan may exhaust near or just behind the louvers.

Look through CL local to you & in nearby areas. You may find a low cost gas tank that fit's you boat & your needs. But inspect used gear VERY CAREFULLY prior to installation & use. Tanks need to be pressure tested to ensure they don't leak fuel.

Also be considerate of how the original manufacturer laid out gas tank & battery storage, and your 'new' 115 OB's weight. Balancing the battery left, & the gas tank to the right of the motor(the heavier to the port side, opposite the driver), or 1 gas tank on each side w/ battery in the middle. Maybe moving the battery or gas tank up to the bow to offset the increase in weight of the new larger motor.

Good luck! & ask as many questions as you can. Be safe & enjoy putting it back into service!

Safe & happy holidays this season!
 

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At WOT that 115 will consume roughly 11.5 gallons per hour! Obviously that number improves at lower throttle but as you can see, you're going to need a lot more capacity. I'd run a 12 gallon with a 5 (since you have it) reserve at minimum. I run two 12s now.
 

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Yep, it appears I was on the right track...:D I love it when that happens, 'cause it don't happen very often!

Running @ Cumberland was awhile ago, 20yrs +/-, & I can only remember think holy carp(!) this is an expensive hobby, and that was when boat gas at the dock was probably 'only' $2-2.50/gal. But man did we love those summers!
 

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i'd get a belly tank of probably 20 gallons...
 

Thelonghull

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Ok- Engine sizes... I have a 17ft Glassmaster 1979. It didn't come with an engine on the boat. I was told there is a stamp somewhere on the back of the boat where the engine is suppose to be stating the maximum engine cc the boat can handle. I looked all over the back of the boat and I can't find anything like that anywhere. Anyone have any ideas on just how big I can safely go without damaging the structure of the boat? Keep in mind its an old boat haha... Thanks for the suggestions in advance..
 

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Measure & do the math based on US Coast Guard generalized specs for Backyard Boat Builders in PDF form here. There is more useful info, but HP ratings is listed in the index @ 1st few pages. Involves the width of the transom, height of the transom & overall length of the boat, w/ pretty good descriptions & graphics. It is from the late 80's, and I'm not sure when the standard measurement for HP ratings was changed, but current motors have the HP rating measured at the prop, my 1961 75HP Evinrude StarFlite was measured at the crankshaft, so it's really more comparable to 60-65HP rated motor of today, a 10-15% loss. Weight can also be a factor, a 4cycle 50hp will probably weigh more then a 2cycle 50hp all else equal (maker, model, year & etc).

Good luck in your hunt for a motor. Seems as though my motor search has run amok & now I have parts & pieces of several boats, trailers & motors to sort through....
 

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Look for the USCG capacity plate, it's a tag like this it should be somewhere close to the drivers seat.

USCGCapPlate.jpg
 

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The boat is a 1979 glass master, Patriot?

Ok- Engine sizes... I have a 17ft Glassmaster 1979. It didn't come with an engine on the boat. I was told there is a stamp somewhere on the back of the boat where the engine is suppose to be stating the maximum engine cc the boat can handle. I looked all over the back of the boat and I can't find anything like that anywhere. Anyone have any ideas on just how big I can safely go without damaging the structure of the boat? Keep in mind its an old boat haha... Thanks for the suggestions in advance..
Look for the USCG capacity plate, it's a tag like this it should be somewhere close to the drivers seat.

USCGCapPlate.jpg

Our gracious host iBoats also has some helpful info on your boat, appears that it will take up to a 135hp OB.....
 

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Will you quit posting while I'm posting :mad:

LOL:D

I didn't think we had a definite ID but then again maybe I missed it as I skimmed through the thread.
 

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My ADHD is kicking in:) But thanks for the use of your signature link. It's very helpful:cool:
 
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