First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

Vankaye

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Yesterday, a beautiful day TampaBay area of Florida, I was heading south in the Inter Coastal inside Anclote Island when I noticed a boat with a person standing on the bow waving a towel. Astonishingly, there were several boat closer than I was than seemingly ignored the distress signal. I am in a 97 Regal Destiny 240 with a 5.7L I/O. I had 7 family members on board and I turned immediately to see if there was trouble.

Approaching the distressed boat the first thing I noticed were two folks in the water and 3 in the boat. The boat was really low in the water and appeared to be sinking. I first asked if everyone was ok... I got a "Yes". I then asked if they had radio or had called for help. "No".

Ok, fine. As I was instructing the distressed folks I had to tell everybody on my own boat to shut the the hell up and stay put. I had one 20 yr old passenger that was poising himself to jump in the water. Geez. Ok, back to the rescue.

One of the guys (it appeared to be the boat owner) stated he needed to be towed back to shore. I told him I would NOT be towing his boat but that I would be happy to take his people and belongings to shore while we figure out what to do next. I explained that I would come along side of him and transfer people and stuff but we would NOT allow a rope to be tied to the boat. He agreed.

My wife on the other hand kept pleading with me to just tow the boat. I had to sternly remind her that I was responsible for 12 people on board now and that we were absolutely NOT to tie anything off to that sinking boat!! :facepalm:

By now, a 15-16ft skiff had also pulled along side of the sinking vessel and the skipper's mate was reaching from her boat and bailing the transom of the sinking boat while we continued to transfer personal belongings and camping gear.

With my boat now FULLY loaded (maybe a bit over-loaded) I pulled away slowly and started to idle toward the shore.

The little skiff continued to bail and they decide they would try to tow the partially submerged boat to the beach with the captain staying on board and continuing to bail.

I ended up bringing the load of people and stuff to nearby canal to off-load at a friend's dock. As we we were heading in to the channel I noticed the little skiff had stopped towing the boat and seemed to be disconnecting. Apparently he smartened up or realized he was putting himself at great risk for a lost cause. (the sinking boat was not only a total loss, it was a piece of crap to begin with and probably had no business being in the water in the first place)

After dropping of all the folks as we were leaving the canal we saw the little sunken boat had been towed to within a 100 ft of the beach by a large pontoon boat and seemed to be doing ok. The captain gave us a big thank you wave and we were heading back to our home port. All ended well!

When we got home I explained to my wife that I was perfectly willing to tow a boat on the lake (we live on Lake Tarpon) that might be having mechanical troubles but in the Gulf (with weather, currents and waves) I would never tow a sinking or distressed boat. It's just too risky.

I am happy to help people... But I have enough responsibility keeping one boat and all soles afloat.

What say you?
 

Malibu Rudder

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

Smart and responsible!!! :) NIce job Captain Vankaye.
 

GA_Boater

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People first. You did the right thing. Good call, Vankaye.
 

agallant80

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

I had one 20 yr old passenger that was poising himself to jump in the water. Geez. Ok, back to the rescue.

I think that is the worst part. people have good intentions but most of the time when you are on a boat good intentions just get in the way. Every time I take people out I tell them to stay put and don't help me dock but someone always stands up and tries to help and makes it more difficult.

A few months ago. I took three friends out on the boat. Two of them (father and son) decided to go swimming. Well one thing lead to another and they decided when they were in the water that they would swim to shore, not telling me or anyone else this. The current was pulling them way down the beach, the kid got tired, grabbed on to his father and started to pull him under. I heard them screaming I started the boat up and headed over to them. The wife decides that she is going to jump in and swim to help them. So now I have three people in the water one around my spinning prop. There were two people in danger now 3. I ended up throwing the wife a float and headed over to the father son to pick them up seeing as they did not have a float and were in trouble. A very nice guy in a skiff got to them first and picked them up so I went and got the wife. I don't know why people feel the need to jump in and add another person to the list of people in distress. People just don't know better.
 

jjacobs007

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

I towed in my friends boat once,it sank 6 months earlier on the shoreline of lake mead(nevada).
Me and another boater tied up lines to it and as the water was dropping really fast during this time it didnt take long for it to be on the beach.We took out as much mud and stuff as we could then tied off ropes to it and began pulling.The first attempt,one of the ropes broke and came back at me as i was standing near the bow of the sunk boat and almost cut my leg off.To my surprise the boat came loose and began towing toward marina. I was really scared as we towed toward marina keeping a friend close to rope with sharp knife ready to cut if needed. It looked like it was going to never make it but we did make it, all the way back to launch ramp.The other boaters thought we were crazy.My guess was, if there was enough flotation to keep the bow up it would be ok.

Your situation is more scary, being there is so many people involved,i hope they all had life jackets on.Where was the fish cops? they usually go really fast to these situations.
 

tpenfield

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

Yes, women and children first. Best to get people to safety, then see about the boat. Since you had a bunch of people aboard, you were not in the best situation to tow a sinking boat. If the boat were not sinking . . . or . . . if you did not have a full load of people, then you would have been in a better position of offer boat assistance in addition to people assistance.

It is always nice if other boats are around and respond, as the options for assistance are greater. I would imagine that the small skiff that tried to tow the sinking boat, was unable to make much progress with it.
 

bruceb58

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

I imagine the skiff tried to tow the boat and thoughts crossed his mind that if that boat started to really sink, his boat was going to get pulled stern in as well.
 

TilliamWe

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

You (and the other boats around) had a duty to render assistance, as long as it didn't put you in any danger. You did exactly the correct thing!
 

LippCJ7

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

I think you did great and had your priorities in line with myself survivors first boat second, Nice job!
 

spdracr39

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

you shoulda had em pull the plug so you could tow it fast enough to suck the water out. :rolleyes:
 

hostage

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

When I was taking my rescue diver class the last thing you want to do is swim. Throw, reach, wade, row, then swim.

A brother was drowning up here, the other brother tried to swim to the "rescue", he left a boat full of kids to be traumatized to watch their dads die together.

I bet one of the problems is all those TV shows showing the "heroes" swimming to the rescue. We need more shows showing that "hero" being rescued by the smart guy throws them a life ring.

You were good for helping and smart for not pushing yourself.
 

tpenfield

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

One thing about a sinking boat, particularly a smaller boat, is that you do not know if it will just sink to the rubrail or sink to the bottom. All depends on the flotation within and the condition of the boat.

Bigger boats are probably going to sink to the bottom.

You don't want to be towing a boat that is going to sink to the bottom, as it might take your boat with it, particularly if you cannot cut the tow line(s).

The owner of a sinking boat may want to have their boat saved, but the priority is to get the people to safety. If someone feels like towing a swamped, but floating, boat to the shore, that is their choice.
 

NYBo

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

I give your response an A+.:clap2:
 

Vankaye

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

Thanks for the kudos guys. I really wasn't fishing for praise. I would do it for anybody. Anytime. I'm sure most everybody on this forum would. I was just surprised how everybody's attention was on the boat. (in my humble opinion it was a worthless piece of crap not counting the fact that is was mostly submerged)

I shouldn't be surprised though... my only other experience rescuing boaters was a boat fire and the female passengers (from New York) were deathly afraid to jump ship because they would be swallowed whole by alligators... mind you, the engine compartment was fully engulfed in flames and these dim-wits were more afraid of the water!

I only mention they were New Yorkers because they had some horrible fantasy about giant man-eating alligators in florida lakes. No offense to New Yawkers intended! :)
 
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crabby captain john

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

Getting the people to safety is the ONLY priority. Even though this boat was a "worthless piece of crap" it would not be a good move to tow a sinking boat worth a $million. I'm not on lakes any longer and would never tow a boat here no matter the reason. Tow Boat US and Sea Tow are all over the area. I'll stay with them until help arrives, call help for them, and hope they paid the $150 per year towing/emergency package. If they did not send the $150 I'll feel sorry they are going to receive a big bill. I ;have a USCG 100 ton license with a towing endorsement and it just is not worth towing someone. All recently built boats under 20' may swamp but should not sink. Many over 20' will not sink either-- EdgeWater, McKee Craft, Whaler, and a few others builders. If you can afford a boat you can afford a towing service where available. It is less than 1/2 tank of fuel on my boat!
 

Fleetwin

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

Handled-PERFECTLY!

I am perfectly happy and willing to lend aid and tow a disabled (no power) boat in good conditions. A sinking one-no way.

You done right. Hat's off!
 
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H20Rat

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

i've towed sinking boats before, but... I also have a heavy duty ski pylon that I tow from, and I have a fairly large knife handy at all times. I would have no hesitation cutting the rope at the slightest chance of the tow not going well.
 

NYBo

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Re: First Repsonder to a sinking vessel

I only mention they were New Yorkers because they had some horrible fantasy about giant man-eating alligators in florida lakes. No offense to New Yawkers intended! :)
That's ridiculous! Everyone knows the giant man-eating gators are in the NYC sewer system, not Florida lakes. Duh!;)
 
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