For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

[PW2]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Boom, you hit the nail on the head. There is no disputing the Earth is getting warmer. Nobody can put a definite reason on why. It's been fluctuating for millions of years.

On that note, PW, what do you drive to work? I drive a 125cc scooter which gets about 80mpg city. If what you say is true, you're contributing to the same problem you claim to be so concerned about. Don't just bytch and complain, do something. Sell your car and walk. You libs will hug a tree as long as it doesn't have any sap on it.

When you want to walk to work or ride a horse (nevermind, horse manure also gives off harmful gasses) , bring this topic up again.

FTR, I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee and the company I work for pays the gas. Your point?

I'm not exactly sure what you all fear in this, or what you think the global warming, or scientific community is trying to do. They are really trying to do what is resonably possible to limit the growth of greenhouse gas emissions, and/or increase the planet's ability to deal with them. CO2 is an important part of the health of the planet. The goal is surely not to eliminate it.

There are lots of things that can be done if we put our collective minds to it in some sort of organized effort. Frankly, developing pollution control equipment to be marketed worldwide is likely to be good, and not bad for our economy.

The oil companies, and the neo-cons have done a great job at scaring the bejeesus out of everyone. It is an irrational fear, as most fears are.

 

[waterinthefuel]

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And you are personally doing nothing, nada, to help with greenhouse gas emissions. Your Jeep burns 10 times the gas my little scoot does, and puts out 10 times the emissions. You are damaging the ozone layer 10 times more than me. But you don't hear me bytch about global warming!

Ahh, responsibly reduce greenhouse gas emissions? So selling YOUR car is irresponsible? Oh, but you want everyone else to sell theirs. I got it now, let someone else hug the tree. Global warming is a problem!!! But I'll be daymed if I'm going to change MY lifestyle to help.....typical lib.

Gore flies around in a private jet emitting greenhouse gasses directly into the atmosphere and you want to reduce greenhouse gasses? So do I, lets ground him, and to reduce the emissions even further, lets tape his mouth shut.

You certainly missed the point. Funny noone else did. It has nothing to do with who pays for the gas. It's the fact that you are touting about global warming being caused by emissions but you aren't willing to reduce YOUR, yes, YOUR greenhouse gas emissions!!!

Why not? That tree got some sap on it huh?

Quite frankly, I've never been scared by an oil company. I have, however, been scared by some liberals who hate this country more than Bin Laden himself.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Quote PW2,
"FTR, I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee and the company I work for pays the gas. Your point? "

PW, I think this points out exactly what all of us have been saying. I guess it is OK to pollute if a rich company pays for your gas? They are going to take away your secret decoder ring for this little Faux Paus.

 

[12Footer]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

It's the "Different set of rules" rule, Pointer.

 

[Pony]

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Well............here is a first.

What 12fter and Pointer said!

 

[Boomyal]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

It's the "Different set of rules" rule, Pointer.

Hey, what's good for the chief environmental whacko (Algore & his Suburbans and jets) is good enough for the critically thinking progressive rank and file Libs! Isn't it?

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

The oil companies, and the neo-cons have done a great job at scaring the bejeesus out of everyone. It is an irrational fear, as most fears are.

Please read this article.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_9_58/ai_n16619084

 

[treedancer]

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Quote waterinthefuil

Please read this article.

It gives you a link to a article written by Steven Hayward, I guess he is a columnist for the National review.
Are maybe a contributing writer/columnist?

What follows are his credentials. I supplied the bold parts. Seems that he has had quite a few jobs in his short career, cant find any that points to his expertise in global warming though.

Steven Hayward
From SourceWatch

According to a brief biographical profile supplied to the National Journalism Center Hayward attended a course in spring '81 and has subsequently been "editor, Inland Business, editorial board member, Claremont Review, contributing editor, Reason, editor, Public Research Syndicated, Weaver fellow, Intercollegiate Studies Institute, director, Center for Environmental Studies, vice president for research, Pacific Research Institute, Bradley fellow, Heritage Foundation, adjunct fellow, Ashbrook Center for Public Affairs, writer/researcher, Bruce Eberle & Associates, author, The Age of Reagan: The Rebirth and Triumph of the American Spirit, author, Churchill On Leadership: Executive Success in the Face of Adversity, author, Index of Leading Environmental Indicators , editor, Foreign Entanglements: An Institutional Critique of U.S. Foreign Policy; contributor, Encyclopedia of the American Right, published in New York Times, Los Angeles Daily News, Orange County Reporter, San Diego Union, San Francisco Chronicle, Sacramento Bee, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Columbus Dispatch, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Kansas City Star, Washington Times, the Weekly Standard, Policy Review, Intercollegiate Review, winner, Felix Morley Memorial Prize for distinguished commentary on business and economic affairs

So, I wonder what course he took, could it have been a culinary course? Possibly a course in finger-painting? Sure don’t see much that would make him qualified to speak out on global warming, other than the ability to get his opinion posted in the National review.




http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_Hayward

 

[waterinthefuel]

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And the link you posted is to a left wing Bush hating website! C'mon man, I'm not that dense! Hayward has tons of qualifications, a heck of a lot more than you do! ROTFLMAO I think you convienently left out this in the article "Mr. Hayward is a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute, and the author of the annual Index of Leading Environmental Indicators."

He's a well respected editor who can do what most libs can't, seek the truth.

Oh I know, the truth isn't something you want to discuss. Nevermind.

Did you even read the article, or did you see who it was by, run with your tail between your legs to your little left wing website, and find something to smear him with?

And exactly WHAT QUALIFICATIONS DOES AL GORE HAVE? LOLOLOL

 

[POINTER94]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

If you want to have fun with treedancers little whacko site, type in Al Gore. Jesus Christ didn't have this much press about him. What a bunch of hacks.

 

[treedancer]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Quote waterinfuel

He's a well respected editor who can do what most libs can't, seek the truth.

Oh I know, the truth isn't something you want to discuss. Nevermind.

How about a little side-by-side comparison OK?

Steven F. Hayward
Education
Ph.D., American studies, Claremont Graduate School
M.A., government, Claremont Graduate School
B.S., business and administrative studies, Lewis and Clark College


Al Gore.

Education n 1965, Gore enrolled at, Harvard the only university to which he applied.
After finding himself bored with his classes in his declared English major, Gore switched majors and worked hard in his government courses and graduated from Harvard in June 1969 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in government. After returning from Viet Nam, he took religious studies courses at Vanderbilt and then entered its Law School. He left Vanderbilt without a degree to run for Congress in 1976. He was also a reporter for five years in Nashville on the Tennessean.


I’ve been thru that link twice, cant find any proof that he is a /was a editor anywhere, found his education. Also found Gores, neither remarkable on the environment .Ok, your thinking why is Gore going out and putting himself up as an environmentalist?

It could be that he surrounds himself with the type of people that have the most knowledge about the Climate and the environment, such as, Dr. James Hansen; he is a physicist who joined NASA in 1967. Since the 1970s he has worked on computer simulations of the Earth’s climate in an effort to understand humanity’s impact upon it.

Now lets compare his credentials with that of Steven F. Hayward, in anticipation of, and to spare you from putting it into a future post, I will agree that he must have had some input from outside sources somewhere. Sure would be nice to know where the following came from, it is on page three of his article.

On page three =orbiting mirrors to rebalance the amounts of solar radiation different parts of the earth receive.
Sure would like to know the credentials of the scientist that put up that theory. Wont put up the link as you already provided it. But believe me it is there .

It surely must be good as it came from the National Review, most likely fair and balanced. Here is the link if anybody wants to check out Dr. Hansen’s credentials.

If you can dig up any links that Hayward got any info from let me, and everybody else see them Ok?

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2006/2006-11-22-01.asp

 

[Boomyal]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Get a life treedancer. Algore has a political agenda in what he is doing. He can't get anyone to listen to him any other way. He's trying desperately to stay in the public spotlight after he got spanked in 2000.! He's no different than Jimmay. Without some outlandish vehicle they will both fade into obscurity.

Plain and simple, he has no qualifications to be going out and both literally and figuratively polluting the world.

Why do you persist in hanging your hat on this bozo?

 

[treedancer]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Spanked?

Try stolen.


Total vote Gore= 50,999,897
48.38%
Total vote Bush= 50,456,002
47.87%

 

[POINTER94]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Kool-aid anyone? Treedancer seemed to have missed this one somehow.

Gore's Dubious School Record
Author: By JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
Date: 09/07/2000 Page: A15 Section: Op-Ed

JENNIFER C. BRACERAS
Jennifer C. Braceras is an attorney and research fellow at Harvard Law School. Her column appears regularly in the Globe.

When will the liberal media stop treating left-wing ideology as a proxy for intelligence? For months the press has questioned the intellect of Republican candidate George W. Bush, while describing Al Gore as "serious," "intellectual" - even "wonkish."

The basis for the media's unfair attacks on Bush's intelligence is his 30-year-old Yale College transcript (purloined last fall and published by The New Yorker). Yet The Washington Post's subsequent revelation of Gore's unimpressive academic record has done little to alter the media's false portrayal of Gore as "the smartest kid in the class." It is a record that is worth reviewing, if only to debunk the myth of Gore as a serious student.

Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).

But whereas the liberal press has described Bush's college days as a time of misspent youth, media accounts of Gore's undergraduate years are grossly fawning. (The New York Times: "As Mr. Bush was frolicking around Yale, a young man named Al Gore was studying at Harvard";

Treedancer, your environmental leader was a D student in science, your legal mastermind flunked out of law school, and the most ethical member of the last democratic administration(the one seen carrying bags of cash from monks who had taken a vow of poverty) wasn't smart enough to finish divinity school. Thank god he was smart enough to be vice president in the clinton administration. BTW, Tree, try reading your grade school civics textbooks as to how presidents are elected.

 

[ob]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

I can almost feel the planet getting cooler as this discussion progresses.Let me know when it gets there.Pennys has a sale on jackets.

I was really looking forward to hearing PW2's response to the company Jeep and free gas issue.I mean besides the "I get a free jeep and gas and you don't .....so,nya nya nya nya nya nya."

 

[treedancer]

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Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale.

"As Mr. Bush was frolicking around Yale, a young man named Al Gore was studying at Harvard"

Have to admire ya pointer, I guess that is about the best derailment I’ve seen in a while.

What the hill Has GPA have to do with this post, I’m comparing the environmental records of Steven F. Hayward, and Al Gore, and if you would read what I said you will notice that I said the neither one has much in there resume brag about.what I pointed out was that Gore has assembled a quality team to make up for his shortcomings.

I guess you’re rather touchy when a politician surrounds himself with competence, considering what the present occupant of the white house surrounded himself with.

 

[POINTER94]

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Treedancers Kool-aid post regarding ALGORE. This is what Tree thinks is reality.

Al Gore.

Education n 1965, Gore enrolled at, Harvard the only university to which he applied.
After finding himself bored with his classes in his declared English major, Gore switched majors and worked hard in his government courses and graduated from Harvard in June 1969 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in government. After returning from Viet Nam, he took religious studies courses at Vanderbilt and then entered its Law School. He left Vanderbilt without a degree to run for Congress in 1976. He was also a reporter for five years in Nashville on the Tennessean.


_______________________________________________________________________________

Reality that Tree now calls derailment.


Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).

Sorry if you don't understand Tree.

 

[Boomyal]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Spanked?

Try stolen.


Total vote Gore= 50,999,897
48.38%
Total vote Bush= 50,456,002
47.87%

Another liberal ploy to deconstruct the Federal Republic, either that or you fell asleep in Jr Hi Govt. 101 again, where you were taught the reason that this country was constructed as it was.

NOW HEAR THIS: FOR ALL THICK HEADED LIBERALS. THE UNITED STATES IS A FEDERAL REPUBLIC. IN A FEDERAL REPUBLIC, THE PEOPLE DO NOT ELECT THE NATIONAL LEADER. THE STATES ELECT THE NATIONAL LEADER. THIS SOMETIMES CAN RESULT IN A LEADER WHO IS ELECTED WHO LOOSES THE POPULAR VOTE.

You whining liberals would love this country to become a straight democracy. That way, all of your whining about fairness would have a profound effect. The Federal structure was used to keep the whining, momentary, feelgood whims of the individual voters from having an undo affect on national policy. The Federal Republic is yet another check and balance.

In other words treedancer, even in spite of your ignorance, Bush did not lose.

Thank God that this country was not formed by men who had the emotions of a 3rd grader.

 

[Plainsman]

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Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale.

"As Mr. Bush was frolicking around Yale, a young man named Al Gore was studying at Harvard"

Have to admire ya pointer, I guess that is about the best derailment I’ve seen in a while.

What the hill Has GPA have to do with this post, I’m comparing the environmental records of Steven F. Hayward, and Al Gore, and if you would read what I said you will notice that I said the neither one has much in there resume brag about.what I pointed out was that Gore has assembled a quality team to make up for his shortcomings.

I guess you’re rather touchy when a politician surrounds himself with competence, considering what the present occupant of the white house surrounded himself with.

I am glad to see that you realize that gore is to stupid to be President! And that clinton wasn't that smart, he had a dummy for VP.

As for global warming, how many years of accurate weather record keeping is being used? A few hundred years? Less than a hundred years? While the earth is how old? Get a grip, yes global warming happens, just as global cooling does. Gore just wants the spotlight and lemmings like some people can't wait to go off the cliff.

 

[treedancer]

Re: For those who think global warming is an ALGORE joke...

Quote EricKims

As for global warming, how many years of accurate weather record keeping is being used?

This looks to me to be good place to start, have a look .

US report backs study on global warming
· 12:52 23 June 2006
· NewScientist.com news service
· Roxanne Khamsi
A report requested by the US Congress has found that there is enough scientific evidence to conclude that the past few decades have been the warmest in the past 400 years.
It is less certain, though “probable”, that the past 25 years have also been the warmest since 900AD, say the authors of the report from the National Academies of Science (NAS), the non-profit body that advises the US government.
They also conclude that humans may have influenced the recent warming. While some people “have attempted to promote the idea that the recent warming is a natural phenomenon” unconnected with human activity, “this report renders that notion much less plausible”, comments Martin Rees, president of the Royal Society in London, UK, on the finding…..
read more here.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...-us-report-backs-study-on-global-warming.html


Quote EricKims


I am glad to see that you realize that gore is to stupid to be President! And that clinton wasn't that smart, he had a dummy for VP.

Not to bad for a couple of dummies eh.If they were dummies what is that saying about the band of fools in charge for the last six years.

Clinton announces record payment on national debt
By John King/CNN
May 1, 2000
Web posted at: 5:13 p.m. EDT (2113 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) - President Bill Clinton said Monday that the United States would pay off $216 billion in debt this year, bringing to $355 billion the amount of the nation's debt paid down in the three years since the government balanced the budget and began running surpluses.