Ford Tough Trucks

JJ57103

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Link,<br />How right you are. A good friend of mine is a 40 year vetereran Parts manager at a GMC dealership... I LOVE doing that! And you're right, GMC! :D <br /><br />As for the '73 Boss Mustang argued earlier, I always thought '73 was the starting point of the little embarrassing Mustang, the Mustang II, of which the only thing desireable was the front-end suspension by street rod entusiasts, so I looked it up. Boss 351, 4bbl, 266 hp, and it looked something like this:<br />
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Link

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ewww I'm not a big stang fan... but that looks<br />good... now my 85 F250 is pushining 300 + miles<br />but ratels more than my head when I shake it :D <br /><br />Link
 

NOSLEEP

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My first car was a 68 mustang notchback.<br />It was the first year for the 302. It had about <br />140 hp and a C4 auto.<br />I wish I had of kept it.
 

Jwill

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Both trucks can be good or bad. I think the actual combustion engine is the least thing you have to worry about in these trucks since they can easily go 200,000 plus miles. I would worry more about the computer/electrical system (especially Ford) and also the transmissions.<br />The reason why there are alot more older Chevy trucks on the road is because Ford has made some ugly trucks for as long as I can remember. Chevy has many years of collectible trucks unlike Ford.<br />Chevy's are also cheaper and easier to work on than Ford.<br />It's Chevy country where I live but since Ford came out with their modern looking truck body styles in 97' it looks like its a 50/50 split on what people drive around here. <br />In California there is a do it yourself wrecking yard where car parts are considerably cheaper than your typical wrecking yard. The Ford car (not trucks) section probaly takes up 1/4th of the yard compared to all the makes (foreign/domestic) combined. Ford made alot of junk for about 10 years and it started around the mid 80's.
 

rwise

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had a ford, not bad<br />had a chevy, not bad<br />had a gmc, not bad<br />wife has s10 4x4 200,000 miles and knocks reliably<br />but I'll keep my old dodge! Thanx!<br />I work/ed them all up to 4 time capacity! no real problem or complaint with any of them, (well fords twin I beam I do not like) and I did drive a new dodge and did not like it, just did not feal like a work horse. Give me American made, trucks, tools, beef, etc. and so on.<br />Richard
 

Kenneth Brown

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I hate to drop on Kenny since he has probably had enough but the boss 302 was only built in 69 and 70. It was a crossbreed between a 302 and a 351 cleaveland. It had a 302 based bottom end with 351 cleaveland heads on it. You can still "make" your own, a company makes an intake called a Clevor which helps the change over process.<br /><br />Now to the subject. I was raised in a blue blood house, fords only. I drove them for a while too. I hardly ever had problems with the trucks, cars are a different story. I had a 89 C1500 that I worked a little, it just wouldn't handle too much. I now have a 89 F250 w/351 windsor that I abuse. There is nothing that I won't try to do with this truck. The only problem I have had is I pushed (with the front tire because the bumper was too high) a 18" tree about 20 feet into a burn pile. It bent the tierod end. I straightened it out with a chain around it and the other end to a tree. I then adjusted the toe and all has been good for about a year now with my jerry rig fix. I use this truck to tow my CHEVY race cars. Thats an area where chevy is superior. You can build a fast ford, it just costs so much more.<br /><br />My only real complaint with ford is lack of interchangeability of parts. A starter froma 65 chevy truck will probably fit a 85 malibu. A starter froma 85 f150 most likely will not fit a 85 f250. I never understood Fords thinking there.
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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and that whole ford debacle about what head fits what is where GM shines ... <br /><br />I put a 455 into a Buick Apollo that originally had a 350 - and screw Mustangs, Z-28's and Trans Am's (SD 455 T/A aside)(well, except for local nut that wedged a 454 into a Camaro, but it couldnt go around a corner worth a dammn) Corvettes had to be powered by big block to keep my quiet, comfortable, air conditioned Apollo in sight<br /><br />over in Philly, two cars ate me for lunch, a ratty looking Belvedere with a dual quad HEMI, lol, and a Cobra 427 .... being trounced by the baddest and best looking car ON THE PLANET didnt hurt too badly, and when I told the Cobra pilot that he had just raced against a station wagon engine, he didnt like that too much, lol<br /><br /> :p
 

jasonballard

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In my little experience I can definitely say that my Toyota is the best vehicle I have ever owned. My family has had many different types of vehicles and most were ok(got to point a and back). Most start having problems at 100K so they get sold. My uncle bought his 1987 Toyota truck new and abused the CRAP out of it every day hauling oil and debis from grease pits. Well he racked up 300,000 on it, never even had to replace the clutch or anything. I got the truck several years ago due to him owing me money and cleaned it up. There was so much grease and oil in the back it was all caked up on the underside. Took me two weeks to clean. Now I drive that truck to work and back every day. I live in Nacogdoches and work in Longview, so I put nearly 1000 miles a week on it. Well a few months ago, the freeze plug started leaking behind the transmission, and I, being a lazy *** , sold it rather than fix it. I got 2000 for it, which amazed the crap out of me because it looked like it was driven through a meat grinder. This is probable the biggest mistake of my life. That truck had 512,000 on it, still blew cold air and got 26 mpg. Now I own a 2004 Tacoma which I like, but not the notes. I useds that truck for everything and was not afraid to abuse it. Now I freak out every time I get a new scratch on my new truck. By the way, an old college professor of mine has a 1978 with over 750,000 miles on it, same good old 20r motor!
 

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I have owned a few different rigs:<br /><br />1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo (1st car, brand new, never had any problems, sold after three years)<br /><br />1979 Honda Prelude (bought cheap for a work car, needed too much work, got rid of it)<br /><br />1978 Chevy 4 door sedan (forgot the make, it was a beast, ugly as sin, made for a good work car)<br /><br />1981 Ford Escort wagon (Ugly flesh color, but always ran good)<br /><br />1980 Suzuki GS 450 motorcycle (Bought from a friends wife who rode it twice and put it in storage when her brother was injured on his bike. It only had about 400 miles on it, I bought it to learn how to ride a motorcycle, then sold it)<br /><br />1988 Isuzu extended cab pickup (went through 2 heads, but owned it longer than any other vehicle)<br /><br />1995 Ford Probe (Its a Mazda MX6 with different styling-no problems until a ford pickup totalled it for me and sent me to the hospital)<br /><br />1979 Subaru 4x4 wagon (Had 5 billion miles on it and ran perfect every single day, ugly as sin, sold it for more than I paid for it)<br /><br />1995 Suzuki Sidekick 4 door 4x4 (no problems, awesome economy, never got stuck, I needed more oomph for boat towing)<br /><br />1970 International Scout (bombproof, ran like a tank, could not get it stuck, rebuilt it from the ground up and sold it when I needed money)<br /><br />1975 Chevy Blazer fullsize 2wd (was given to me, I gave it to someone else, didn't have the money to fix all the things wrong with it.<br /><br />1983 Chevy Monte Carlo (gave it to the ex wife, she sold it for cigarrette money)<br /><br />1979 Nissan 4 door sedan (forgot the make, it was given to me, never got it running, sold it to a scrap yard)<br /><br />1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited (current rig, has had all sorts of problems, thank God its paid for)<br /><br />1995 Ford f150 4x4 extended cab with 351 (other current rig, 142k with no problems, runs strong, will tow a house)<br /><br />I am not loyal to any manufacturer, I just buy what I can afford, take care of it, and sell it when I get bored with it or a better deal comes along. I will say that I have been very happy with the Ford pickup, it just feels better built and stronger than its Chevy counterpart. I would own a Chevy pickup too, however it would have to be exceptional. Now, if I ever get any real money to get a new rig, it would either be a Dodge Ram, or a Ford Superduty. The new Chevys are'nt doin' it for me right now....<br /><br />At work we have two chevys, a ford, and an Isuzu NPR for work rigs. The Chevys are always needing work, the Ford never needs work, and the Isuzu only needs work every now and then, but it is always expensive. It doesn't help Cheverolet that the 350 is the cheapest engine to buy and replace. Maybe it is because there are billions of them out there, or they are cheaply made in the first place. Who knows....
 

JGREGORY

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JasonJ its nice to see you in the nothing forum. If I did not say it before thanks for the help.<br /><br />Ray, I think you where zapped by JB and the mods. You know, subject matter.
 

moderator1

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Ray, It was me. The topic was a little over the limit. If we're talking about the same thing. :confused:
 

moderator1

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Ray,<br /><br />I did not do anything with the trunk picture.
 

Topmason

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I have a '67 GMC 1 ton 12' flatbed I use in my masonry business.<br />It's been in my family since the day it rolled off the showroom floor and has never been outta the masonry business as we're all masons.<br />It's licensed for 16,000 lbs. and I put 5 tons+ of stone on it 1-3 times per week.<br />Ole "James" has been used like this since day one.<br />I'd be afraid to attempt this kind of hauling on any brand of 1 ton today, let alone expect to do it for 37 years, Im quite certain I'd break it.<br />They just don't make em like they used to.<br /> :(
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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Whoops! sorry, I guess im a little leery of censure<br /><br />lakemans paradise lost has me fuming, mea culpa on the overreaction :eek:
 

SeaMasterZ@aol.com

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LOL, my 67 GMC Wrecker was an absolute beast from hell, I would take both the duramax AND the powerstroke, leash em together and let me try to outpull my Beast, granted, if I was taking a trip to distant shores, I wouldnt go in the Beast, but for getting the job done, that old boy had a heart of solid steel - and with its 5.14 Locker rear, in granny low it would drag the above trucks sideways, lol (3500 chassis, 11,000 pound rear, SOLID AMERICAN BEEF)<br /><br />it pulled a 74 Caddy - yanno, the BIG pig iron sleds - right up the Delaware Memorial Bridge, never came out of fourth gear - I know some ricer is going to come along as say how one of thier toyota or datsun rust scows would make a great tow truck with a little reinforcement here and there, but the nose of a 74 Caddy would snap off their little beer can beds right off the mounts<br /><br />ah the good ol days, when trucks were trucks and cars were cars, and there was no confusing the two!<br /><br /> :D :D :D
 
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