Global chillin update

[gonefishie]

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Currently in a Blizzard warning.... good thing we have GW... how bad would it be without it?

We have one of those blizzard warning over here in east central indiana too Kagee. It's looked like a blizzard yesterday, constant heavy snow, 30mph wind, can't barely see anything with the white stuff whipping through sideway. We had something like 18" in one day. It reminded lot of peoples of the blizzard of 1978. I think that the most we have had in one day since then. did y'all get hit hard?

 

[crunch]

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SAVE IT FOR A SUNNY DAY: Maryville Univ. in St. Louis area cancelling screening of Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' because of a snowstorm...

 

[QC]

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Some guy told me this is the coldest winter he could remember . . .

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Some guy told me this is the coldest winter he could remember . . .

Was that "W" that said that?......

 

[crunch]

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Most schools, including Ohio State University, are closed again today. On Tuesday, the University of Illinois in Champaign canceled classes for the first time since 1979.

 

[ricksrster]

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We need global warming! I live in upstate NY, right now it is 10 degrees and snowing. I have to go out and shovel some more. Tomorrow's newspaper will have articles about accidents, deaths, and heart attacks because of the weather. Cold weather is bad for people. We need warming. We must think of our children and future generations.

 

[oddjob]

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Just yesterday...100 people stranded overnight on a highway up yonder!...cold front here today in S.Florida and I forgot my jacket. plus its casual day so I'm wearin a T-shirt.:'(....No GW to be had down here near the EEEquator..:}

 

[QC]

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You guys are just on the wrong coast. It is supposed to be 80 here today. Crystal clear and gorgeous 8) <--- give me back my sunglasses.

However, I was in Chicago when this carp started . . . brrrrrrr, lucky we got out in time :^

 

[OLDSPUD]

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hey odd, arn't you kindof on the lib side of life? Are you questioning Mr. Gore, and his forecast of doom?

just wondering

spud

 

[oddjob]

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Hello Spud, No I'm not a lib. But I did grow up around alot of its influence. I understand the contridictions that they sometimes struggle with. Only when one can say," I was wrong, or I should have understood the other half of the arguements, or I should have been paying attention this topic for more the 30 minutes in the last x number of years, or I should have listened to or challenged Rush Limbaugh instead of taking the advice of his liberal opponents" can they help themselves escape the cult they live in.

But lately it was Glen Beck ( or was it Roger Hedecock?) who asks the question:
If Global warning experts can tell us the temp. of the earth in the near future or the far future, why can the not predict the temp. for lets say next week? After all, it was just last December that I was watching a TV news forcast and the atractive weather lady was commenting that the unusually warm Dec. weather was due to the currrent Global warming.

Yep, I was once a lib:'(...I admit It...I was wrong...and not paying attention..please forgive me.....at least I was too young to vote.o

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Hello Spud, No I'm not a lib. But I did grow up around alot of its influence. I understand the contridictions that they sometimes struggle with. Only when one can say," I was wrong, or I should have understood the other half of the arguements, or I should have been paying attention this topic for more the 30 minutes in the last x number of years, or I should have listened to or challenged Rush Limbaugh instead of taking the advice of his liberal opponents" can they help themselves escape the cult they live in.

But lately it was Glen Beck ( or was it Roger Hedecock?) who asks the question:
If Global warning experts can tell us the temp. of the earth in the near future or the far future, why can the not predict the temp. for lets say next week? After all, it was just last December that I was watching a TV news forcast and the atractive weather lady was commenting that the unusually warm Dec. weather was due to the currrent Global warming.

Yep, I was once a lib:'(...I admit It...I was wrong...and not paying attention..please forgive me.....at least I was too young to vote.o

Very Kool OJ! Must mean ya musta always have had that "single brain cell" Bro Haut refers to, (that Cornservatives have). Just a li'l exercise of the ol' cell turned ya Cornservative! I've always thought that critical thinkin' is very dangerous to the Liberal mind set. Respectfully, (tounge in cheek o' course), JR8)8)8)

 

[technostingray]

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'You don't have to be stupid to be a insert politcal affilationbut it helps.

 

[OLDSPUD]

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sorry bud, I must have read something here that made me think otherwise. I appreciate your response without blasting me as being a neo-con, bla bla bla.

But, hell, Al Gore is a pure ignoramus (sp), also def?

This GW crap is taking on a political life that is untouchable, and if challanged, the challanger is a so-called idiot, neo-con.

Good he//, we only have records of the last 20 to 30 years that may be close to being accurate, the earth is thousands to millions of years old (what ever your belief), who is to say that the temp flucuations havn't occured many times before.

I'm not buying it. It sure is cold here this winter.

Spud

 

[waterinthefuel]

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Oldspud, the earth isn't thousands or millions of years old, but billions. It is estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old. With very little accurate climatalogical data going back more than a few hundred years, saying anything other than "we just don't know" is simply untrue.

There is no proof gw ever existed, now or at any time in the past.

 

[OLDSPUD]

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Amen to that, I was just trying to be PC.

I think we are on the same page

 

[Kalifornyakid]

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Most, if not all of the "scientific reports or studies" seem to come from the U.N. Not hard to see a political motive there!
I think you're right on the money, old spud. The subject has become so political you could debate it for years and never get anywhere. The MSM burries anything that doesnt follow their agenda.
I for one think it's all a bunch of "junk science".

 

[PW2]

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Oldspud, the earth isn't thousands or millions of years old, but billions. It is estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old. With very little accurate climatalogical data going back more than a few hundred years, saying anything other than "we just don't know" is simply untrue.

There is no proof gw ever existed, now or at any time in the past.

Hmmm...That flies in the face of a lot of research being done. Scientists take core samples of arctic ice and can trace climatological conditions back some 650,000 years.

Geologists can do similar research, and have verified the data.

FTR, I believe when the dust settles, this current winter will go down as an above average temp winter, despite the recent cold snap. And the excess snow in NY is largely due to higher lake temperatures, and the resultant lake effect snows.

And, of course, it is not individual years of relative temps that are crucial, but rather the long term trend lines.

Somehow, it is not too comforting to know that the majority of the debate comes from those that least understand the science involved, or scientific method generally.

The sooner we begin to react, the less Draconian the necessary measures are likely to be. Sooner or later, this realization will be made.

 

[POINTER94]

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Help me again PW, we can't get a group of people in Iraq to agree not to kill themselves (impossible! your words), but we can get the entire world to agree to lower the temperature of the globe. Let me guess, government regulations.

 

[KaGee]

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Look at them folks at Daytona! Brrrrrrrr!

 

[PW2]

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Help me again PW, we can't get a group of people in Iraq to agree not to kill themselves (impossible! your words), but we can get the entire world to agree to lower the temperature of the globe. Let me guess, government regulations.

It's called leadership. And initially it will cost money. Probably lots of it. We have to first show them that it can be done (reducing carbon usage here) and then develop technology to make it feasible. It will serve many goals--first of all developing the technology will bolster us economically thru exporting it, perhaps even thru subsidies to make it affordable.

And we have to show how to reclaim and reforest lands that have been stripped of their trees in third world countries.

And if we can reduce the need for oil specifically worldwide, we can start to neutralize the impact of oil sales that finance our enemies---perhaps even help them to develop industries that create wealth thru something other than drilling oil wells, and loading tankers.

Now it won't happen overnight, of course, or without lots of difficulty, but eventually, if the goals are properly set, it could be a net win for everyone.

And at least if we start soon, we have time to implement some of the changes slowly so as to learn what works and doesn't work and why.

But it is going to take leadership on a worldwide basis. There is already much of the world on board now, especially Europe, so we don't have to do it all, all we really need to show is we are willing to cooperate