Gustav

winenut

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To everyone in the gulf area: please take care with this new storm approaching, especially those in the New Orleans area. I hate to see this storm threatening an area still in a state of recovery! Be safe. :(
 

jay_merrill

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Thanks for your kind words - I am taking a break right now from boarding the house up. I already have generator gas in 6 gallon cans and boxes of MREs, water, flashlights, etc. My son's mom and I have the escape plan in place, and should we have to go, I'll have the joy of spending some period of time in my van and a couple of hotel rooms with she and her boyfriend .... oh boy! ;)

Actually, just kidding - she and I get along well.

My gut tells me that this one isn't going to do a direct hit on NOLA, but I am preparing anyway. I'll just leave everything up through September, so I don't have to repeat the drill with every storm that manages to get in the gulf.

Who knows - the Specs might be running hard on Canal Street next week!
 

winenut

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Just curious, did you evacuate during Katrina? Did you have much damage? It still seems unbelievable to me when I see the pictures of the devastation.
 

jay_merrill

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Yup, got out of "Dodge" for Katrina. I have been through a number of hurricanes, but that wasn't one I was going to fool with. I left at 7:00 am on Sunday (the day before) and went east, instead of west. I was in north central Florida before the folks who went west arrived in Baton Rouge, which is normally a 90 minute drive.

My house survived - shingles all over the yard and some seepage into the house but not too bad, all things considered. The rest of the house, with the exception of my front porch, which faced the brunt of the winds, held up well. I also had a lot of tree damage, with limbs on the ground pretty much all over the place. My back yard abutts several thousand acres of woods (I live SW of New Orleans, in a rural area), and the damage is still very visible.

One of the things that I did that proved to be a good idea, was to board every bit of the house up, including the front and back doors. I used a lot of screws so that it would be unlikely that someone without a screw gun would want to try to get in. I had no looting at all, and I believe that is why.

I was also home in a week, with about $3,000 in supplies in. on, and hanging off the back (trailer hitch carrier) of my van. I had to run the house off of a generator for a couple of weeks, but was actually pretty comfortable - A/C, potable water, washer/drier, shower all functional. I didn't even have to eat MREs because I brought back plenty off groceries and had refrigeration. I also snagged a pass that allowed me to get in and out of my Parish, so I could restock on generator gas, fresh veggies, etc. I had to drive about 100 miles round trip to do this, but it was worth it.

Many of my friends lost everything that they owned, including a woman who I took in for about three months. She showed up with her car, a cat that she picked up off of the street on her way out, and so few belongings that it took us about 10 minutes to move her in. Her home in New Orleans had 14 feet of water in it. In her extended family, a total of about 30 homes were lost. Even now, she is the only one out of that extended family who has returned - the rest are scattered from San Antonio to Atlanta.

The good news is that all the agencies, from local to Federal seem to have it together this time. FEMA is already here and buses, trains and airplanes are lined up to take those w/o transporation out of the region. We have a staggered evacuation plan for those with their own cars, which empties areas south of New Orleans first. This was in place for Katrina too, and worked well. Its objective is to prevent those people from getting gridlocked into the low lying areas that they live in. The list of changes since Katrina is long, but suffice it to say that most of the problem areas have been addressed.

The one remaining problem is that we still have many weaknesses in the levee system. If this storm doesn't build up significantly, however, I think we will be OK. So far, Gustav is a small storm in terms of width. That is a big difference in comparison to Katrina and Rita (hit La. a month after Katrina), both of which were huge storms. Rita hot Lake Charles, 225 miles west of New Orleans, and we actually had areas that reflooded. My town actually came closer to flooding from Rita than it did from Katrina.

Time to go back to work - the windows are waiting!
 

LadyFish

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This far out landfall cannot be predicted with any accuracy. Everyone from the Texas Coast to the Florida Panhandle need to prepare.

We are watching this one EXTREMELY close as well as Hanna. There are 5 areas of disturbance right now. Everyone that lives along the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic, be on your toes and check the NOAA updates several times a day .
 

SnappingTurtle

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Been there, done that. You all don't take any chances. Get out of there if it heads your way.

Friends of ours lost a 150 year old family home in Katrina. It was built like a bomb shelter out of foot thick hard wood. They thought if it had seen that many storms, it would see a few more. They were wrong.

They stayed to ride it out, and almost lost their lives in the process. As the water rose they went upstairs. They ended up on the roof, and then in a old oak tree. The house was swept away under them. The only thing left now is a long side walk to nothing, and memories.

Better safe, than sorry.
 

OldePharte

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Jay, guy I used to work with lived south of Algiers somewhere.

Just before Katrina hit, a bunch of us called him to see if he was leaving. Nope.

He stated that he had food, a fridge full of beer, and all the ammo that he would need. As he just built a new house, he wasn't leaving. Obviously, we lost track of him for close to a week.

Seemed that he rode out the storm with no issues. However, as the gun shots kept getting closer, he decided that he and his wife needed to get the heck out of Dodge. He had to go west and fiddle around to get to some family north of Pontchartrain. He ran his cell phone battery down just trying to get a signal, then it was a matter of then finding power to recharge the phone. In talking to him later, he realized that he was foolish to stick around and would heed advice to get out.
 

ehenry

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Even though I'm a 200 miles from the coast Katrina still hit us a good one so i've got all my little duckies in a row. Fuel stockpiled, grub and groceries bought, even got the dawg taken care of. Only thing left to do is go retrieve my other generator from my hunting camp on the river so my folks will have one if they need it.
 

jay_merrill

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I'm not surprised, ehenry. I left Florida the afternoon of Katrina and went t N.C., where I have some family. I went home via Atlanta and then Interstate 20 to Jackson. The ride along I20 was interesting because you could actually see where the eye of the storm passed - to the east of it, the tree were all blown over to the north, and the the west, they were blown over to the south. In the area were the eye crossed I20, the trees were scattered in all directions.

Ladyfish is exactly right, though - at this point, there's no tellin' where this thing is going to go. I'm becoming more convinced that N.O. isn't going to have a huge problem with Gustav, but as LF also pointed out, there are several other storms behind it. So, I'm almost boarded up and will start in on laundry next - lol, I don't know why, but every time we get a hurricane, I make sure that every single shred of laundry is done and put away! All you shrinks out there can figure out what the hidden meaning of that is!
 

fdmsiv

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My father always told me that any storm predicted to hit NO more than 4~5 days out has never hit.

I wasn't alive for Betsy or Camille, but I was in NO for Katrina. The Katrina track went across FL and then up into Appalachacola (sp). 3 days out, the track began shifting west until...

Right now I am checking wunderground every 3 hours, it seems as though the track keeps shifting west...
 

jay_merrill

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While I am doing all of the things necessary to prepare for Gustav, I agree that it is the hurricanes that cross Florida that tend to score a direct hit on New Orleans. The two that affected us most severely, Betsy in 1965 and Katrina in 2005, both did this. In fact, Betsy was well on its way up the eastern coast of Florida, and seemed to be on the way up the eastern seaboard, when it reversed course. It dipped somewhat south and then crossed Florida into the Gulf.

The problem is that this is just history - who knows what the next one will do? Its also worth mentioning that Hurricane Camille (1969) came up through the Gulf, and while it turned to the east at the last minute as many of the Gulf storms do, it made landfall in nearby Bay St. Louis, MS.

I have one more window to board, some banking to do, a few more cans of gas to buy, and then I am ready. Maybe I'll go visit Elvis - haven't been to Memphis in awhile anyway.
 

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Latest projected path according to NHC


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jay_merrill

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People are aready leaving the New Orleans Metro area, particularly those from areas south of the city. The fear this time is that, if this storm becomes large and wide in footprint, the storm surge will run up into the Barataria Basin, rather than up the east side of the Mississippi River and into Lake Ponchartrain, as it did with Katrina. Because the levee system on "the West Bank" is incomplete, there is a possibility of flooding in areas that didn't flood during Katrina.

The storm track seems to be continuing its trend of moving westward with each new release of model data, so I am hopeful that we will be spared the worst of it. I'm afraid, however, that parishes to the west of us will get hit pretty hard.

I have my house boarded, a full tank of gas in the van, 60 gallons of generator and/or spare gasoline, the yard mostly picked up, four outboards that were on stands outside my shop moved into it, and various other tasks done. Tomorrow I'll take the middle bench seat out of the van, grease up the axles on my boat trailer, buy a spare tire for it, pack up all my important personal papers, change the oil in the van, and load it up to leave. I'm not going to bail out though, unless I really need to. Katrina was a no brainer, and I didn't hesitate to hit the road when it became obvious that we were going to take a direct hit. This one is more of a "wait and see" hurricane in my book.
 

LadyFish

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Gustav is now a Cat 2 with winds 111, gusts to 130 mph. Storm surge is parts of Cuba are expected to 19'. Tropical storm force winds extend out 160 miles out from its center. The storm continues to increase in size and intensity and hasn't even reached the Gulf of Mexico yet. Gustav is certainly one to be reckoned with.

The Mayor of Galveston, Tx will decide evacuation preparations today at 1:00 p.m.

At work I am prepared to evacuate 167 staff and children at a moments notice. We have been working on this all week and everything is in order. At home, we have impact windows so no need to board up. The boat is already out of the water and we will load up our travel trailer today and be out of here tomorrow due to the potential storm surge. We plan on taking our boat inland and leaving it our daughters. We may stay with her tomorrow night and decide whether or not we all need to travel further away from the storm at that time. She's about 35 miles further inland.
 

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LF, Mr.LF, RP, Jay, and the rest of you in harms way................do what needs be done to stay safe.............we'll be praying for you........
 

Benny1963

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thanks man ;hi jay this is bennyb ,im in denham springs ,aint going nowhere
but will take precaution ,jay if ya need help down that way ,
my boats ready to go phone cell# (deleted) it will be on if ya stay or any of yall call me if ya need me to come yalls way ,done it before
good luck ,will probaly be powerless for a couple of days ,see yall soon


EDIT: Removed your cell phone #, not a good idea to post it on a forum. An email or PM would be a better choice.
 
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fishmen111

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Be careful guys (and gal). Our prayers are with you. Everything can be replaced but your life.
 
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