Have I gone too far?

ondarvr

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Looks good. You will need to glass out onto the hull and sides 6" or so, so you will need to grind it out a ways further.
 

AFlowers

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ondarvr Yes sir. I plan to do that as well. After tabbing the outer back on, I plan to glass the back, sides and floor out to about 12". Then after I get the wood transom set and tabbed in, Glassing all that in to the sides and floor as well. It may be somewhat over kill but piece of mind is priceless.:)
 

gm280

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AFlowers, you done good. And I can already see a solid project coming along. You will be surprised how solid this will all come together once you get it all finished. Keep up the great work and post those pictures. It is the only way we can see your progress and offer suggestions. And there really isn't any over-kill when doing these projects. :thumb:
 

AFlowers

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I'm trying to look a little ahead on my project. I noticed that after I removed my floor that there was no foam underneath and between the stringers. There is only about 3" clearance. My question is, should I put foam in there or just leave it as an open space?
 

ondarvr

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That's up to you, you should do a search on replacing foam in the hull, it will take a while to get through it.
 

AFlowers

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I have searched but it is usually on larger boats. Also, I can't find much information on my boat. It's a 79 Kennedy Kraft and the company went out of business long before the internet.. My boat is only 14' and I really don't know if its needed or recommended.
 

gm280

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I'm trying to look a little ahead on my project. I noticed that after I removed my floor that there was no foam underneath and between the stringers. There is only about 3" clearance. My question is, should I put foam in there or just leave it as an open space?

AFlowers, while it seems like only 3" or so underneath eh floor, calculate the total area and you will quickly see that foam would offer a very substantial floatation if you mix and pour the foam. 3" X the width of the flooring, X the length of the boat and that adds up to cubic feet. And mix and pour foam does offer some really good structural support as well. But again, that is your choice.
 

ondarvr

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The controversy is that foam begins to break down over time and starts absorbing water, the timeframe for this can vary a great deal. Once it starts to hold water it speeds the rot proccess. People feel very strongly one way or the other about it. Keep the boat dry and it will last a very long time, uncovered under a tree in the back yard for several years and you're done.
 

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I am looking to do the pour foam in between the ribs to replace these old ones as well. I calculated I needed about a little over 4 cubic feet worth to fill it up, so if I am right, two quarts each part. Let me know if you plan to use anything different. Should I even care about the foam like AFlowers was mentioning as well? I wanted something to hold up the sheet metal I plan to use on the flooring.
 

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DeepBlue2010

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Nguyen, start a thread of your own and aak your questions there. It is against the forum rules to hijack someone else's thread.
 

AFlowers

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Alright, I got my Glass and CSM ordered today. This weekend I plan to finish prep-work and hopefully start glassing the outer stern back on.

I just want to run my plan by you guys to see if it makes sense or for any advice. My plan is as follows.

1. Prep inner hull for glassing and eventual CSM. Grind/sand hull and sides for relative flatness for seating of new transom.

2. Grind/sand all leftover stringer glass and prep seating area for new stringer fit. (What is PL for use between stringer and hull?)

3. Build up seam area of outer skin with 1708.

4. Add extra layer of 1708 over outer skin of transom (on the inboard side), sides and hull out to 6 to 10 ".

5 Build Transom, install, tab in.

6. Remove boat from trailer and invert on to support for outer hull gel coat prep, assess if any repairs are needed to hull, fix, and then gel coat.

7. Paint and repair/upgrade trailer

8. Put boat back on trailer

9. Install Stringers, tab In and rebuild small bilge that was removed.

10.Install Deck leaving space between Hull and deck, Fillet,and tie in new deck to new inner skin of Transom.

11. CSM deck, (make decision on seat pedestal, Gel coat.*

12. Start cap repair and prep for Gel coat.

*At that point, I have some decisions to make. I will have to fabricate control supports and wiring infrastructure. I'd like to tie it all into the new deck so this will come before gel coating the deck. I'm also considering adding a live well.

I also am thinking of adding a wall from the deck to the lower lip of the cap. Like to old Oauchita boats have. My Kennedy Kraft is almost Identical to these old boats.


I know I may have left some stuff out of other things to do but this is all I can think of at this time.

Ideas, comments, corrections, and or suggestions are welcome.
 
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gm280

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Pretty ambitious list there. I would take care of the immediate things now. Because your recipe list will change. That is a guarantee. Not saying you're wrong for listing it. In fact that is a good thing. But you will deviate from it for certain. Just do each thing to the best you can and you will enjoy this boat for as long as you want it. And there is a lot of good suggestions and know-how available on these forums. Post your progress for us to see as well. We love to see progress pictures. JMHO!
 

AFlowers

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I certainly will post progress. If it weren't for you all here, it would have been at the scrap yard by now. I sincerely appreciate it.
 

AFlowers

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Question: Do any of you know where I can order seat pedistals like the ones used on the "1974 Ouachita Tri-hull Bass Boat Restoration" project? I've searched the internets high and low and can't find them.
 

Woodonglass

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These guys sell em but not sure how much. I'm thinkin you could make em pretty easily..

http://www.freedomboatsusa.com/boat-consoles/

I made these out of PVC for less than $5 bucks!!!
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I have an angle calculator that will give you the angles to cut if you want to make em out of plywood and then glass & gelcoat em.

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AFlowers

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Right on. That's what I'm thinking too. It'd be nice if I could find the dimensions instead of do the work myself. ;)
 

gm280

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Right on. That's what I'm thinking too. It'd be nice if I could find the dimensions instead of do the work myself. ;)

You always could make a box shaped seat base that would serve as a seat base and storage area. That is what I did on my tri-hull boat project. And it doesn't interfere with your feet at all. JMHO!
 
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