Heavy boat

[oops!]

Re: Heavy boat

u know of course.....under all that carp...is a really great boat....

look at johnnys ...pics of work so far.

once you get all the rotten wood and wet foam out.....its just another rebuild...no big deal.....40 hours later.....and done

 

[chrishayes]

Re: Heavy boat

u know of course.....under all that carp...is a really great boat....

look at johnnys ...pics of work so far.

once you get all the rotten wood and wet foam out.....its just another rebuild...no big deal.....40 hours later.....and done

You kill me oops, with your time estimates for boat repair, you should start your own buisness OOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSS you already did! How do your customers feel about being told that it will only take 30 minutes to cut the bow off their boat, install a gun platform, dual 50 cals and a below deck ammo depot? Do you garauntee your estimates or a "price not to exceed"?

OP, where are you located? I absolutely love those glastrons and since joining this site have wanted one badly. If you arent TOO far away and it is free, you may have a deal on disposal. Im serious! I might change my mind once I see the pics though. Afterall, they dont build them like that anymore, hell my boat is just a few years newer and it had already seen a 50% reduction in building materials!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[redfury]

Re: Heavy boat

You kill me oops, with your time estimates for boat repair, you should start your own buisness OOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSS you already did! How do your customers feel about being told that it will only take 30 minutes to cut the bow off their boat, install a gun platform, dual 50 cals and a below deck ammo depot? Do you garauntee your estimates or a "price not to exceed"?

OP, where are you located? I absolutely love those glastrons and since joining this site have wanted one badly. If you arent TOO far away and it is free, you may have a deal on disposal. Im serious! I might change my mind once I see the pics though. Afterall, they dont build them like that anymore, hell my boat is just a few years newer and it had already seen a 50% reduction in building materials!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's a trihull, it might be similar to my boat. My transom wasn't falling off, but it wasn't in much better shape, minus being "loaded with accessories"...my boat was pretty spartan in comparison

 

[reelfishin]

Re: Heavy boat

If it's a trihull, it might be similar to my boat. My transom wasn't falling off, but it wasn't in much better shape, minus being "loaded with accessories"...my boat was pretty spartan in comparison

I've always loved those year Glastrons, they have a sporty look about them and were rock solid. I had a V172 a few years ago that I probably should have kept. The hulls are pretty well built, I did a floor and repaired the stringers in mine, the transom was solid. The new owner really went all out in finishing the interior. I had left it pretty bare inside for fishing.

If the OPs boat is a trihull, I'm sure he won't have any problems finding it a home if he's going to fix it. They had a really cool trihull design and sleek look about them. They didn't look like the common shoe box with an outboard as did some of that era's trihulls.

Still waiting for pics.....

 

[78ImperialT]

Re: Heavy boat

pics pics pics pics pics pics pics

oh...i have 500' of waterfront property on the gulf coast...1000 dollars...anybody interested

catch....NO PICS

 

[redfury]

Re: Heavy boat

pics pics pics pics pics pics pics

oh...i have 500' of waterfront property on the gulf coast...1000 dollars...anybody interested

catch....NO PICS

:lol:

 

[crackedglass]

Re: Heavy boat

Here's some pics I had a buddy take this afternoon, I wasn't able to get home in time to take some myself but these should give an idea of what this thing is like. The pics do actually make it look better than it is believe it or not.

The first pic shows the floor, the carpet covers the edges, and there's another piece of 3/4 ply under the batteries. That block of wood is a 4" long chunk of 2x4, there were several of those which wedged the battery boxes in place. I removed two of the batteries which were mounted under the dash, one on each side, there are still three in place under the splashwell. One for the bilge pump, one for the motor, and one I presume for the lights. The two up front were wired to the radio and to the fish finder.
http://i29.tinypic.com/29bh8p2.jpg

There are two fuel tanks, 42" long, 11.5" deep, and about 22" wide. Both sit inside the seat boxes as shown. Their not marked to capacity, but their about double the size or more of my 16 gallon tanks in my Starcraft.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2klq4j.jpg

Gotta love the tach mounting job
http://i29.tinypic.com/24l64r9.jpg

No better place for the oil tank then between the drivers feet.
http://i32.tinypic.com/mhynoi.jpg

The transom sags a bit, note the 2x4 kickstand needed to keep the motor from ripping free of the boat. There's a 5x6" chunk of lumber bolted across the inside of the splashwell too. But it does nothing to support the motor at its ends. The outer skin is not cracked, but the inner skin is all but gone. Without that 2x4 that gap you see is about 4 1/2". I've also been keeping a block under the skeg so it don't drop any further.
http://i28.tinypic.com/29qcht5.jpg

Quarter inch thick stainless plate under motor to reinforce the transom.
Check out the bilge pump plumbing too. That white plastic tube is 1 3/4" ID.
The bilge pump which is sunk in a whole in the floor under the splashwell is about the size of a 2 lb coffee can.
http://i30.tinypic.com/xcrtx4.jpg

A better view of the transom lumber repair. Also, what better place to put two fuel filters than right out in the open.
http://i29.tinypic.com/4iylav.jpg

It was a great looking boat as trihulls go, but for me, I just don't have time for another restoration project. I do actually really like the look of the boat, minus the mildew and all the less than professional repairs.
http://i29.tinypic.com/wwn82d.jpg

I'll try to get some better pics as I start taking it apart. If someone wants the hull, there is a title and the boat is in South Jersey at a buddies place. Anyone interested will need to bring a trailer, there's a gantry crane there which can lift the boat onto a trailer if needed.

The outer hull is actually pretty decent all things considered, there's a few cracks in the cap up front but nothing all the way through.
Plan on about a half a ton or more of scrap and wet foam.

The boat can't stay around for long, it's got a short lease where its at.
I'd have brought it all the way home to PA but I didn't trust the trailer with all that weight, not to mention it was too heavy for my car to tow very far.

 

[pmat1]

Re: Heavy boat

that is hilarious!!!!! some people should never be allowed to touch a boat.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Heavy boat

Wow, that's a real piece of work right there.

 

[Schmoe]

Re: Heavy boat

No....it's a drug boat............

 

[chrishayes]

Re: Heavy boat

No....it's a drug boat............

Yeah, drug home!

How cool would that be to rip up the 20" of deck to find a boat FULL of pot or something...or a dead man...

 

[sho3boater]

Re: Heavy boat

That really is amazing. A guy that used to live next to me bought one of those from a friend of mine with an I/O. It is a little rough but still had the factory floor and runs ok....or should I say I thought it was in rough condition it was mint compared to that. That thing would float on the ply floor alone! I bet he had a top speed of 10mph at that weight.

 

[crackedglass]

Re: Heavy boat

I'm not sure how fast it went but with that transom like that and all this weight, I'm sure any speed was too fast.
What amazes me is that the transom hasn't fallen off. There is no wood left where the motor bolts up, it's gone and most likely has been for some time. Even that huge chunk of timber in there is rotted on the ends, so it's been there a long time. If you look at the pic showing the left side of the transom, you can see where they cut away what was left of the inner splashwell then carved and fitted that wood beam. If the wood beam would have gone through the side walls of the splashwell, it would have done some good, but all it did was spread the weight of the motor over the width of the splashwell on the outer skin. If I pull the 2x4 board out that's propping it up, the motor drops back about 4 or 5 inches bowing the transom outward. The weight then hangs on the screws attaching the top cap, which have been replaces with larger bolts recently.

Jumping on the floor is like jumping on concrete, there is no flex, so I don't doubt it's solid plywood. I was wrong in guessing only 4 layers of wood, after pulling the remaining three rear batteries, I pulled out that center piece of plywood only to find it sat on top of another added sheet of plywood which itself was rotted out and lying atop of the original carpet and 3/8" or so thick original plywood floor. So the layers go like this:
Original plywood floor
fiberglass layer
Carpet
3/4" ply
carpet,
1/2" ply
carpet
3/4" ply
fiberglass layer
3/4" ply
1/4" ply or maybe masonite
fiberlass mat and resin
3/4" ply
3/4" ply
carpet

I was mistaken in thinking that the step seen at the edge of the carpet was all the layers of added wood. I hadn't realized that there were a few full length layers of wood added all the way back to the transom. I guess they figured they had better stop there so as to still be able to get the batteries under the splashwell. This explains why the two jump seats appear to sit right on the floor. I also found another battery behind those I already knew about, a long since dead and retired battery was shoved back behind the starboard jump seat area, partially hidden. It had fallen through the original floor just to the side of the bilge opening, the third battery under there was partially ontop of the that old battery. Surprisingly, all of the batteries were marine batteries too. Only the engine starting battery was hooked up to the charge system. But there are all sorts of suspicious looking runs of lamp cord and speaker wire all over with aligator clips on both ends.

If I don't have any takers on this once I pull the motor and tanks, I'll do a cross cut and take some pics, that is if my circular saw will cut through all the glass and carpet too.

The bottom of the boat isn't all that deep, so I doubt they burried anything in there, but I did find a bunch of soaking wet, moldy life vests in the forward compartment, two bags of wet flares, and some fishing rigs.

I'd bet money on it that one good hard launch would put what remains of the transom in the water with the motor. I'm not sure whether this would float at the surface or just sink, since the glass is neutrally boyant, and the foam is just water weight, I'd guess it would hit bottom pretty fast.

I do wish there was a better way to get rid of an old boat other than just taking it to the landfill, it's not the cost, but the thought that this thing will outlive all of us underground.

If I strip it for the dump, there won't be much left at all besides glass and resin, the wood I'll cut up and get rid of or make use of it till it rots away. I'm guessing that the upper few layers will be still solid since it appears to be pretty recent pressure treated wood.
No doubt the lower layers are pretty much compost in the bottom of the hull.
I'm amazed that this thing quit draining water out, I'd have figured it would drip drain for a year being as heavy as it is.
I also forgot to mention the drain plug is a cork with an eye bolt and shoelace which was hammered into the hole. No doubt the matching shoelace which is holding the bilge pump hose to the transom tie down.

 

[freeisforme]

Re: Heavy boat

You know, that boat may have some really scary problems, but look close, there's no outer hull cracks, the cap appears to be pretty much intact, and the transom in those boats is only a center section, the outer wing areas are all glass. I've done a few Glastron transoms and their the easiest boats I've ever done. The glass is solid, they repair well, and the floor is pretty straight forward. I'd pull the cap, remove the floor layers and assess the damage. Of all the Glastron boats I've had apart, none needed stringers and all were rotted far worse than yours. The stringers in those trihulls do little for the boat structurally, they are more for rigidity of the floor and bottom of the boat than for power transfer. All that I've dealt with have either been pure fiberglass or just 1/2" ply put in to support the floor. The compound hull design was more than enough to maintain any latteral strength.
At least someone took the time to try to repair it. Most were left to rot.
With all that wood in the floor, it still looks like the floor is below the front cap. I'd be real curious as to what they did there. Did the remove the cap each time they put in a layer of wood? Did they cut down the top cap to clear each sheet of wood?

The oil tank at your feet is a novel idea, I guess they didn't want to let the oil run out?

That tach is real sweet too, but look on the bright side, you don't have a huge hole in the dash to fill in either.

The filters being up there are convenient but they sure are ugly, I'd have at least put them down on the sides somewhere out of sight.

I'd like to look at it if your not too far away, PM me an address and when would be a good time, I'll be in south Jersey most of Friday, I could stop by then. I have a trailer for it here.

 

[crackedglass]

Re: Heavy boat

Freeisforme: I sent you a PM

Your right, the main hull, and even the cap isn't in bad shape. The lower half is about perfect. The worst part would be fixing what ever they did to the splashwell to fit that piece of lumber, and what ever they did to the cap to make the floor clear and the cap still fit.

I've had a few people say they want it, but first come, first served.
It will be missing the motor, seats, tanks, controls, radio, fish finder, bilge pump, and trailer. If I know someone is taking the hull, I won't butcher it when I take what I want. If I know someone is taking it, I will leave the new rotary steering in place as well.

free: your right, the transom is a small panel, the corners are sort of concave, so I don't suppose it's a very hard panel to make, and the transom glass isn't broken that I can see, I have no idea what's under that SS panel.

I'll probably have the motor off next weekend, sooner if I know someone is coming for it.

chris: the boat is about 500 miles from OH. PM me if your interested but it's a bit of a drive for a project boat.

 

[Jeep Man]

Re: Heavy boat

First time I've heard of the boat and anchor being interchangeable.

 

[crackedglass]

Re: Heavy boat

I'm pleased to say that the Glastron trihull has a new owner!
It's new owner intends to put her to good use after some repairs.
It's motor will live on on my boat and the hull will get a second lease on life as well. I'm sure with some elbow grease and some spare time it will once again be a good reliable boat.

 

[freeisforme]

Re: Heavy boat

I sure hope you told the new owner about these here forums at iboats. He's going to need it.

(I'd have been more interested if the cap hadn't been modified to clear all the layers of plywood they added. Putting it back to original will take far to much work for me considering the boat).

 

[bigredinohio]

Re: Heavy boat

WOW! I thought whomever redid my boat was a joke!

 

[redfury]

Re: Heavy boat

I sure hope you told the new owner about these here forums at iboats. He's going to need it.

(I'd have been more interested if the cap hadn't been modified to clear all the layers of plywood they added. Putting it back to original will take far to much work for me considering the boat).

Oh, I so hope he told them about Iboats! They just bought a boat that could become our next legendary thread!