Help with terminology

[Small Saddle Wedgie]

Hello people!

I am learning quickly, but am falling short on terminology.
I have learned that the cap is the top of the boat that rests on the hull.
But, for instance, I have damage in the floor area between the steering wheel and the storage/seat.
The issue is, is that I prefer to speak knowledgeably when talking to people.
So, I am adding a picture of a top view of a bass boat, and would like to know if there is a way to say where damage or issues are on the Cap, utilizing proper terminology.

Here you go! Any help would be amazingly appreciated!!

 

[Small Saddle Wedgie]

Re: Help with terminology

For instance:
I have a hole and water damage in section C.

I would like to say I have water damage and a hole down in the ________.

 

[tpenfield]

Re: Help with terminology

'Floor' or 'cockpit sole' would be reasonable terminology. Others may have some additional terms.

Not a good place to have a hole as that leads to the structural areas of the hull. So, water can (and perhaps has) accumulate in the hull and rot out the structure (if it is wood).

 

[Bondo]

Re: Help with terminology

'Floor' or 'cockpit sole' would be reasonable terminology. Others may have some additional terms.

Not a good place to have a hole as that leads to the structural areas of the hull. So, water can (and perhaps has) accumulate in the hull and rot out the structure (if it is wood).

Ayuh,.... To carry on JB's teachin's,....

Boats, don't have Floors,.... they have Decks,....

'n for the record, that boat don't have a Cap,.... it's an open hull, with decks,...
A forward castin' Deck,....
The cockpit sole, 'n an aft castin' Deck,....

 

[agallant80]

Re: Help with terminology

Don't forget the Poop Deck

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...QQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNECo3k_Em54TOp1rk7U3FwxkOyPYQ

 

[Small Saddle Wedgie]

Re: Help with terminology

Good deal. Thanks for the info.

 

[gm280]

Re: Help with terminology

As I was learning about boats, I always had an issue with left and right of the boat (as viewed from the driver's seat). So I did word associations and it helped me out. Example; Port and starboard is left and right. Port = left (both four letters) and starboard = right (more letters then left or port). And a good way to remember which color goes where is red = port = left, green = starboard = right, again the longer letter words on the right hand side and green and right have the same number of letters. I know it sounds dumb but it did help me... :facepalm:

 

[Georgesalmon]

Re: Help with terminology

Red is on the port (left, 4 letters) side because "port" wine is red,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[ziggy]

Re: Help with terminology

if ya want to get into the know about anything boating. i recommend getting a copy of the book
Chapmans Seamanship and Boat Handling.
this book is real thick and you will find any terminology about boats that you may want to look up. or anything else that pertains to boating.
i don't know what this book costs, but i don't think it's a cheap book. but it has most of the answers to questions you may have about general boating.
i highly recommend this book. it's very educating when it comes to anything boating.

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Help with terminology

OK, Red bouy on Right, Returning from the ocean. (Red, Right, Returning) Black bouy On Port (left) upon Entering (BPOE). Like the Elks club.

The tricky part is when on the Inland Waterway, as both ends lead to the ocean, eventually. A convention was needed to chose how to set buoys. Here in NJ It is Red, Right, Returning southbound. Or as I prefer, Red, Right, Returning from Don and Jean's house.

 

[Ned L]

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Hmmm, .... Chris, are you showing your age????? It's been what, ... probably 30 years since bouys were red & black. (LOL)
As Tpenfield said, "cockpit sole" would be the most correct.
And, .. agreed, boats don't have "caps". That may be a term used here, but it is not correct.
Boats can have "floors", but they have nothing to do with the surface you walk on. "Floors" are a framing member that ties the frames together across the top of the keel (not typically on a plastic boat).
Boats also have "ceiling", but it has nothing to do with what is over your head when your are down below.
"Chapman's" is a good place to start with for a book. It is pretty much a timeless book so any fairly recent copy will do fine (ebay has them cheap).

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Help with terminology

Ned, I did pass the USCG Aux test in 1964, when Buoys were black or green. Never saw too many black ones back then.... Needed to take the NJ Boating Course a couple of years ago. So little had changed......in 40 years. I guess maybe BPOE has been retired...

OK question: The top molded portion of the boat is referred to as a cap. Normally refers to closed bow, gunwales, splashwell etc. My Dual Console has seats and a deck molded into the cap. Obviously you walk on that deck and sit in the bow seats. Is that a Bow Sole?

 

[Small Saddle Wedgie]

Re: Help with terminology

Chris, that was my understanding. The Deck is under the cap.
So when I'm standing on the bow (forward casting deck), I am actually standing on a fiberglass Cap, which is covering a wood deck.
The 'Open Hull with Decks' would be an apt description.. except there's a solid fiberglass 'Cap' that covers everything.
(As I have recently found, because i am going to have to tear this boat apart to fix her!)

I think I have comfortably determined what to call everything, but it's real interesting to see how terminology varies, and how even though they might be a little different, it's pretty easy to get your point across

 

[UncleWillie]

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Hmmm, .... Chris, are you showing your age????? It's been what, ... probably 30 years since buoys were red & black. (LOL) ...

I frequent plenty of major commercial harbors in my area; I haven't seen a Black one yet.

I use ....
(Inbound) Red, Right, Returning.
(Outbound) Green is the Right way to Depart.

 

[Fun Times]

Re: Help with terminology

Ayuh,.... To carry on JB's teachin's,....

And to carry on one of Don's terminology, http://forums.iboats.com/mercruiser...al-information-diyers-342393.html#post2545061

The two major changes are:
The meaning of the red and white striped buoy will change from the USWMS "do not pass between the buoy and the nearest shore" to the USATONS "safewater all around."
The black versus green buoy always meant the same: "marks the left side of the channel when returning from a large body of water or when heading upstream" but with the merger, the USWMS black buoy would be replaced, with the green buoy required by the USATONS.

Buoy info quoted above is found in the link below,
http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/uswms.htm

 

[Ned L]

Re: Help with terminology

Ok, so thinking more about it I might suppose that given today's modern manufacturing techniques the term "cap" could/would be applied to the unitized assembly of components that is traditionally made up of separately named parts (as it is referred to here), though I don't know if the term is used in the business (of building boats). ( I have only worked in building steel and more traditionally built boats).
I would still call it the 'sole'
Red 'nuns' and black 'cans' is going back to at least the 70's! Cans have been green for years.
So, if you've been boating on Barnegat Bay since then you must have seen some good boats over the years ( Hubert Johnson, Morton Johnson, Johnson Brothers, Charlie Hankins, etc)

 

[Ike-110722]

Re: Help with terminology

While Chapmans is the best reference (get copy, even an old copy is better than no Chapmans at all) here are some on line references.

Boatsafe.com Dictionary of Nautical terms: Nautical Know How - Glossary of Nautical Terms

Wikipedia Glossary of Nautical terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms

Sea Talk Nautical Dictionary The Dictionary of English Nautical Language, Glossary and Terms directory.

Online Nautical Dictionaries: Maritime Terminology : online dictionaries

 

[Small Saddle Wedgie]

Re: Help with terminology

Ned, I would just feel horrible pulling the sole of my boat

Peter thanks a ton! Those references helped a lot!

 

[Ned L]

Re: Help with terminology

S.S.W. -------- I agree!! LOL