Hey, New Boater!! Getting started.

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fone_man

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Re: Hey, New Boater!! Getting started.

are you really a "PBX technician"!!!!!!<br /><br />... "click" on icon to the right of posted date & time to find out!!!!!<br /><br />
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<br /><br />------------------<br />"Keep It Between The Bouys" & "Good Luck"!!!<br /><br />fone_man
 
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kevlar3000

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Re: Hey, New Boater!! Getting started.

Put your plug in before putting it in the water.
 
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stinger1

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i had heard that it is best to disconnect the fuel line and burn all of the fuel in the motor before pulling up the boat ramp.<br /><br />is this a good really a good thing to do or not.<br /><br />i know it is not always possible on crowded ramps as boats are trying to get in and out.<br /><br />just wondering about the benifit if any of doing this
 
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ka3wld

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We keep the plug on the boat key ring!<br />(wa3ipb's wifey)
 
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stinger1

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i also keep a key to my truck in my tackle box, and a key to my boat in the glove box of my truck
 
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Hey, Stinger. I burned the fuel out of my 2 strokes before pulling them out for years. The theory is that if there is no fuel in the pump or carbs, no varnish can form. It worked to the extent that I never had a carb problem, even if she had been sitting for months (I emptied and purged the fuel tank and lines as well when I put her up for extended periods).<br /><br />I now think that was a risky practice, because running it out of fuel also runs it out of lubrication. That risks galling and even worse. With the newer engines that inject the oil seperately that wouldn't be a problem, but on some of them it would pack your carbs with oil and create a plug fouling possibility.<br /><br />One more reason I'm glad I switched to 4 strokes.<br /><br />Red sky at night. . . <br />JB
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Deerdog

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Great advice JB. Also excellent point about running your engine dry of gas by disconnecting the fuel lines. I have been told by several shop mechs not to do that for the samereasons you just stated.<br /><br />To add my .02: winterizing, make sure it is done properly. I do the following on my boat:<br /> - clean it throroughlly. Go over the seats with a cleaner and then protectant. I also clean the carpets and wax the whole boat. Then I go and buy several of those air fresheners and put at several place in the boat. I use a long flexible tube 2" wide with screens at both ends and lay it in the boat so that it is hangin out of both ends. Then we tarp it up and store in a dry,covered shed. We also put fuel stabilizer in what little fuel is left in the tank and run it a while (before taking out the last time). After waxing we shoot oil into cylinders and turn over a few times to lube them up. The next spring it is smelling like new and ready to go. It will mae a little at first but not anything to worry about. this whole prcedure take about a day but is worth it. I have seen too many folks just leave their boats to the elements and after a few years they look it. Mine still looks like it came out of the showroom and it is and 89 model and gets tons of compliments.<br /><br />I think I will take you up on the 87 Octane. I will try it anyway and see if there is a difference. It used to not run very well on it. <br /><br />Again thanks for you advice.<br /><br />Deerdog
 
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When the need for speed attacks, as it almost surely will, forget about hopping up your outboard. It is always cheaper to buy a bigger engine than to modify a small one. <br /><br />There are ways you can make your boat go faster with its present engine.<br /><br />A hydrofoil attached to your engine can increase hole shot and add a few mph top end.<br /><br />In many cases an engine can be raised and inch or so, decreasing drag and increasing speed.<br /><br />Many boats don't have the ideal prop for your uses until you "prop it out" by testing it on the water with typical load. <br /><br />A "dirty" bottom, particularly with growing stuff, can turn a rocket into a garbage barge. Keep your bottom clean and smooth.<br /><br />Finally, engine trim (angle) is critical to get your best top speed and fuel mileage.<br /><br />Have fun!<br /><br />Red sky at night. . . <br />JB
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fone_man

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Come on downnnnn!!!!!!!!!!! or UUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!! Here we go again!!!!<br /><br />------------------<br />"Keep It Between The Bouys" & "Good Luck"!!!<br /><br />fone_man
 
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texacana

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I found this article in the Web... I thought I'd share it.... It'a kind of a big file for this forum.... Sorry... but I thought it might help...<br /><br />

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yensid

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Thanks, that was helpful!<br /><br />If there's an administrator reading this, I believe with UBB there's a way to make this post 'sticky', so it's always on top....
 
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Yes, an excellent article. . . EXCEPT!<br /><br />Please continue to use 87 octane, lead free and alcohol free regular gasoline.<br /><br />Red sky at night. . . <br />JB :)
 
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Deerdog

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Hey JB<br />I saw you comment on that great post concerning boats and their operation. I have been asking around concerning the octane ratings. Intrestingly enough I am getting about 50% saying run 92 or better and 50% saying exactly what you are saying. My population sample includes boat engine mechanics.<br />My force 150 does seem to run better on 93 Octane but I am going to try 89 first and maybe step down to a good clean 87 brand. With it freshly tuned and with new stator wires who knows.<br />Any opinions would be appreciated<br />Thaks<br />Deerdog
 
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Hi, Deerdog. It can be confusing, can't it? I have gotten the impression that the guys who tell us that their engines run better on premium are almost all Force users, and that they are also the guys most concerned with decarbonizing. I now wonder if Forces carbon up quicker and worse than OMCs and Mercs and running premium prevents or reduces preignition due to carbon deposits. <br /><br />I'd sure like to hear what guys like Dhadley and Corm think on that notion.
 
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Kyle Chism

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Just wanted to move this up and ask a few more questions. I sprayed out the carb on my Volvo last night and will be heading out to the Ohio tomorrow. I'll let everyone who helped me out know how it does.<br /><br />How do you drain an I/O gastank other than with a siphon?<br /><br />I looked at my prop to find the diameter and pitch last night. The diameter is between 14 and 14.5. It is on my AQ125A/270 Volvo Penta. The boat is an 84 Bayliner Capri 1950C. I have checked miwheels.com and it gives me an extensive list.<br /><br />On the hub (front view) it ready MICHIGAN and has 082004. From the top view I read 504D which has been Xed out, and it now reads 524A. There is nothing else to help. Also, where can I find the model number on a Solex PAI carb, and can I get it at any autoparts store?<br /><br />Thanks!
 
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Sorry, Kyle, you are out of my area. But, that gives me an excuse to move this to the top, where an I/O guy might see it.<br /><br />Red skies at night. . . <br />JB :)
 
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stinger1

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i have a motorguide 48 lb thrust trolling motor. it can operate 12 volt or 24 volt.<br />i have always run it 24 volt.<br /><br />my question is, i have 2 different brands of batteries that i run it off of. is there a danger of hooking these two different batteries together. one has 750 cranking amps and the other has 950 cranking amps.<br /><br />i am only using these two batteries for accessaries and the trolling motor. <br /><br />i have a seperate 950 amp cranking battery that i use to start and that is all i have hooked to it.<br />i could switch this 950 for the 750 and they would match. but i would rather have the 950 cranking amps on the start.<br /><br />does this really matter<br />is there any danger
 
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The 750 a battery and the 950 battery will have slightly different internal impedance.<br /><br />If you draw exactly the same amps from each, the 750 battery voltage will drop slightly lower than the 950. That is Ohm's Law.<br /><br />This simple application of Ohm's Law leads some people to believe that if you connect them in parallel, which you apparently have, the 750 will "draw from" the 950. <br /><br />Not so. What actually happens is that the load will get slightly more current from the 950 than the 750 and their voltages are equal. That satisfies Kirchoff's Law. You have the equivalent of a 1800amp battery.<br /><br />You clearly have seen no ill effects from your arrangement, and you wont until normal usage and life span require you to replace one or both.<br /><br />Red sky at night. . . <br />JB :)
 
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texacana

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I'm a two month old boat owner of a used 15' bass boat with 50HP Rude. I have a propeller question for everybody.... The original prop that came with the motor obviously have a lot of fair wear and tear. It is a stainless steel 12 1/4 X 15... So, I replaced it with an aluminum prop same diameter, same pitch made by hustler.. I gain 4 more MPH.. Why? I mean it's good!! Will there be a noticeable difference in speed if I swap it with a 11 3/4 X 17.. Any info will be appreciated... Thanks!
 
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It depends on what rpm you are getting Texacana. I have heard great things about those Hustlers and yours is just one more example. <br /><br />Only if your engine is revving beyond 5500rpm should you add a couple of inches of pitch. Otherwise you will "overprop" your engine, which is deadly.<br /><br />Good luck.<br />Red sky at night. . .<br />JB :)
 
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