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DaNinja

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I was on a 34' in 14' swells off of Valdez. I felt completely safe.
Several of the guests got ill, but I still felt safe.:D
 

backwater dawg

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My thought is for you to stay in South Dakoka where your'e safe and dry---we took a 36' trawler from Lake Superior down into Lake Mich---we were in waves bigger than most of the building where you live---try a smaller body of water first
 

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I haven't found who actually markets the Star Power engines. I have found they are a Ford Deisel which would make them made by International.

I've found that same boat at a Dealer in NC listed for $26,900. I've also found at least one other that's much nicer that sold for $13,000. [Gas power]

Not sure how much it cost to convert it to diesel but not $20,000 worth.

I haven't seen it in person. I've been told by the lister that the prop shafts would need repacking and was last in the water about 8 years ago. Nothing about the transmissions. Yes, it is a straight inboard. ;)

I had planned on taking it to a place and having it gone thru to make sure of it's seaworthyness. ;)

After all, I wouldn't want it to sink to close to shore. :p
From World Maritime News:
"Tracy Laborde, President, acquired 20-year old Star Power in 1998 and renamed it Laborde Products, Inc. Since then Laborde has moved the company closer to the commercial marine markets."
They are based in Covington, LA.
 

justchange

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From World Maritime News:
"Tracy Laborde, President, acquired 20-year old Star Power in 1998 and renamed it Laborde Products, Inc. Since then Laborde has moved the company closer to the commercial marine markets."
They are based in Covington, LA.



Thanks for that info DaNinja. I checked thier site and nothing listed for a marine V-8 diesel. :( As i said, this is something I'll probably never do. just another concept like the Northstar.---------lol

As far as staying in SD where it's safe?------------Why? :D
 

justchange

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From World Maritime News:
"Tracy Laborde, President, acquired 20-year old Star Power in 1998 and renamed it Laborde Products, Inc. Since then Laborde has moved the company closer to the commercial marine markets."
They are based in Covington, LA.



Thanks for that info DaNinja. I checked thier site and nothing listed for a marine V-8 diesel. :( As i said, this is something I'll probably never do. just another concept like the Northstar.---------lol

As far as staying in SD where it's safe?------------Why? :D

Adventure is better than cheese and beer ;)
 

And-Con

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entirely unsure of what you decided but would that boat even carry enough fuel to make it across the gulf, and since its not a day trip, can she comfortably carry enough crew to run 24 hour watches-i don't think she will have enough rode to anchor up in the middle of the gulf for the night; i agree with the previous, hug the coast, have fun, stop in ports, come back alive.
 

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The problem would not be the run from Texas to Florida - it would be from Jacksonville, TX, which is near Dallas (inland) to Houston. That's a lot of boat to trailer and it would most likely require special permits.

Once in the water in Houston, you can run the ICW to a point east of Mobile, AL and then across most of the FL panhandle, before going "outside, down to Tampa. If you do, you'll pass by my neck of the woods - let me know and I'll run down the bayou and have a Diet Coke with you!



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i've got the same dream you do jc. i'd love to do the intercoastal.... also like you, i'd guess i'll never make it happen.... so

As far as staying in SD where it's safe?------------Why? :D

Adventure is better than cheese and beer ;)
why not? head on down to lewis and clark on a windy day. take your regular speedboat with you. i would think that lewis and clark could offer you some pretty exciting boating. i've seen it pretty big before... nice and shallow, a west to east wind should make it real exciting at the dam end.. that should fill the bill for excitement and put your boating skills to the test. least it does for me... then there's the missourt river. that's always exciting to. never know what you'll encounter on it.

ya've got a couple other big lakes in sd that are the missouri river too. i've never been to them, but they sure look like fun.

my point is. you can have a lot of fun right where your at. won't cost ya a arm or leg to do it either. i do it all the time. haven't got into to much trouble, yet. not like i've not tried though.

more thoughts. night boating. that should be new and different and a whole new view of boating. i did that a lot last year. was fun as heck...

still a great idea about the 34' boat though. i'm just saying you should be able to find adventure right at home. i've sercome to the fact that i don't have the bread to do what i want to do. so i make the best of what's around me... good luck...
 

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One day my wife and I were out in my speedboat. It was very unusual conditions because the bay had bright sunshine, low/no wind and large waves with a long period. As we sped along at 50MPH we would ride up the crest and down thru the troughs. When in the trough, we could not see anything but water on all sides. I will guess the waves were 4-5 feet, but the ride was so smooth that when I looked at the passenger seat, my wife had reclined it and was sunbathing topless.

It ain't the size of the wave, but how you ride 'em!

Pics or it didn't happen!:D
 

justchange

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I finially found info on the Star Power engines.


Originally manufactured by Marine Corp of America in Franklin, IN. They were part of Delco Remy corp. The company was bought by Mercury Marine in August 1998.

Here's the article;

http://www.rbbi.com/company/bc/mm/delco.htm

I've been e-mailing the owner and the transmissions are also new according to him.---------I know, I know, I need to look in person and have it surveyed.:)
 

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i've got the same dream you do jc. i'd love to do the intercoastal.... also like you, i'd guess i'll never make it happen.... so

why not? head on down to lewis and clark on a windy day. take your regular speedboat with you. i would think that lewis and clark could offer you some pretty exciting boating. i've seen it pretty big before... nice and shallow, a west to east wind should make it real exciting at the dam end.. that should fill the bill for excitement and put your boating skills to the test. least it does for me... then there's the missourt river. that's always exciting to. never know what you'll encounter on it.

ya've got a couple other big lakes in sd that are the missouri river too. i've never been to them, but they sure look like fun.

my point is. you can have a lot of fun right where your at. won't cost ya a arm or leg to do it either. i do it all the time. haven't got into to much trouble, yet. not like i've not tried though.

more thoughts. night boating. that should be new and different and a whole new view of boating. i did that a lot last year. was fun as heck...

still a great idea about the 34' boat though. i'm just saying you should be able to find adventure right at home. i've sercome to the fact that i don't have the bread to do what i want to do. so i make the best of what's around me... good luck...

I'm sure those are fun. They're still NOT an ocean ;) I do thank you for your support though. I've wanted to do this forever. [there's many things fall in that catagory] I've even found a decent place close to Daytona where I could live on it for no more than a decent apartment would cost me per month. :D
 

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Wouldn't that be upwards of 600 miles? That boat only holds 300 gallons of fuel. I may make that trip in a boat I'm confortable with but I certainly wouldn't do it as my 1st time out.
 

ziggy

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c
I'm sure those are fun. They're still NOT an ocean ;)
yes, they are fun. and no, it's not the ocean...

like i said, i hope to do something similar to what your doing too. i went at it a different way though. i did 5 years of power squadron classes. i got through advanced piloting. if you do the ocean. i hope ya do something similar. do you know how to read charts and navigate? off shore there's no reference to where you are. do you know how to use a sextant? (i don't, that was the next class i was in line for but didn't take) i know, gps. but they're electrical devises. what if the satellites go down, or you loose power? can you navigate with a compass? do you know how to read the weather? do you know the rules? there are many that us lake boaters don't even know about. i can't start to tell you what all us lake boaters don't know about ocean boating. i no nothing myself. i've never been there. but the classes sure brought what i don't know to light.

imho. you really need to try the river and a large lake. make the adventure there first. and i assure you, you'll find adventure on these smaller bodys of water. if ya've never done a river. you'll find it ain't nothing like lake boating. much more dangerous imho. go camp on the river overnight. that's adventure. no one around. just you and your boat left to your own demise. your equipment best be up to the task. i've had large boats go by that if ya didn't know how to boat, they'd likely swamp ya. i've near been permanently beached for the river going down a foot overnight. i've near run into bouys for lack of a lookout.
i've been on lake machonohey (big mac) in western neb. too. very similar to lewis and clark size wise. i've seen boats 'on' the dock in high winds and waves. sailboats that took 10 people to get them on the trailer for the size of the waves. broken trailer bunks as folks try to load due to high waves.
heck. so far the only time i've had to been rescued by others was my local 2k sq acre lake. another overnighter while parked on the beach. went to sleep only to awaken in the middle of the night to 3'ers round abouts that'd pushed me onto the beach so bad i couldn't get off by myself.
then there's night boating. i'd not done much of that before. last year i spent many weekends onboard my boat overnight. boating at night is a whole nother ball game compared to day boating. you lose all reference as to where you are. lights (boats and on shore) will play games with your head and you won't know what your looking at.

all i'm saying is that there can be plenty of adventure right at home. some of them 'may' get you or me prepared to try an ocean. but i'd doubt it. i'm under the impression that ocean boating and inland boating are two different ball games and if yer gonna do the ocean and your used to lakes. you'd better have your ducks in a row or you'll likely pay up. probably not in a good way either..

hope your well off money wise too. my guess is that if your not wealthy ocean boating will be out. my guess is it takes a pile of bread as tall as your crusier...

take your small boat out in the sh!t. when it's raining, high winds, dark, cold, whatever. plenty of adventure right here on the high plaines... imho... :D

still wish you luck in realizing your dream though. it's an admirable dream i think. there's just a lot to take into consideration other than the height of the waves. heck you asked.
The size of some of those waves make tall buildings seem small. Also been looking at advice for driving a boat in those waters.
go take your little boat out in bad weather. size is relative i'd think... your small boat will take all the skills you have in 3-4'ers......

speaking of fuel by 180F. don't forget the 1/3 out, 1/3 back and 1/3 for safety rule... i'm sure you've heard of that rule... not as critical inland. might be very critical on the open seas...

hope to see ya on the lake or river sometime... ;)
 

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I figure that the boat wouldn't make it fuel wise from TX to FL. Make it about half way. So, that ideas out. Unless I could get some from one of the oil platforms.---lol I had planned on getting training in drive a boat offshore. My best learning is by doing, but not in 8+ foot seas. :eek:

I may be insane, just not THAT insane.:D
 

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You could do it in a well set up 34 ft. sailboat no problem (hurricanes and freak accidents excepted of course.) It can be fun surfing on 8-10 ft. waves!
 

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I figure that the boat wouldn't make it fuel wise from TX to FL. Make it about half way. So, that ideas out. Unless I could get some from one of the oil platforms.---lol I had planned on getting training in drive a boat offshore. My best learning is by doing, but not in 8+ foot seas. :eek:

I may be insane, just not THAT insane.:D

you could always launch on the Red River in Shreveport and cruise down to the Mississippi-by that time you have alot figured out-then from Venice to Gulfport-or Orange Beach- Destin...- I'm a hour & half from Jacksonville- buy me some gas and i'll look it over for ya -- if your still intrested. -Joe
 

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Im a NB so go easy on me. I know the ocean is a dangerous place but i think you have to respect any body of water if you have ever been out late at night on the Ohio river or Mississippi with a heavy fog before they had GPS you lose the bank and then you hear a bardge (I know the bardges have sonar but it takes them awhile to stop to) approaching in the background it can be bit freaky. after we got a gps i stood behind my buddy and when he could not see the bank he just drove in large circles he thought he was driving straight it was the craziest thing I ever saw. It would take hours to find the bank and when you did what side are you on. I guess the toque of the motor was making the boat turn I dont know. P.S. if your wondering why im out on the river late at night the pic shows why 40lb flat head
 

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I was on a 34' in 14' swells off of Valdez. I felt completely safe.
Several of the guests got ill, but I still felt safe.:D

I'd guess you were in a boat that was probably set up a little bit different, with some people who knew what they were doing, too.

Not saying the OP isn't, but guessing by the original question...he's not.
 
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