Iraq Authorization of Force

funjumper

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Here is the actual text of pulled straight from the White House web site. Note that the force is authorized to enforce the UN Resolutions. What about the sixty day reports? When do we hear the first one? Never, at least until after November. The Republican controlled Congress has totally and completely failed to impose any checks and balances on ShrubCo. That is why it is critical to vote Democratic in the next election. These aren't Republicans at all. They are a profound threat to the very heart and soul of the USA.

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Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq





Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677";

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions," while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable";

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;

Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq".

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to


(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --


(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS

(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).

(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law 93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law 102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law 102-1.
 

kenimpzoom

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Next thing you know, you will post the transcrips of how the supreme court stole the presidency from Al Gore.


No further posting till you can cut and paste the Democrat's plan for Iraq.

Google away. :)

Ken
 

Kwas

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The Democrats and Republicans authorized the President to go to war, what's your point other then to bash the President?
 

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Quote by Funjumper:

What war?

Nothing I have read or heard ANYWHERE says anything about a declaration of war as provided for in the US Constitution.

Are you talking about the premeditated aggression against Iraq that is currently going so well?

Are you talking about the completely mismanaged and ineffective "Department of Homeland Security" activities that are supposed to protect us from "terrorists"?

Are you talking about the nebulous "war on terror" that ShrubCo claims to be waging? If you are referrring to this, how will we, the people, know when we have "won"?

Are you talking about the well managed and extremely successful "war on drugs"?

It is easier to spout the party line than think for yourself. You would have been a good german in the thirties and early forties. No questioning the government, do as you are told. People like you are sad examples of everything that is wrong with the USA.
 

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kenimpzoom said:
Next thing you know, you will post the transcrips of how the supreme court stole the presidency from Al Gore.


No further posting till you can cut and paste the Democrat's plan for Iraq.

Google away. :)

Ken

Didn't read the post, did you?

It is beyond your comprehension anyway. Too many big words and complex concepts.

Thanks for playing "I am really ignorant and proud of it" today.
 

funjumper

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oddjob said:
Quote by Funjumper:

What war?

Nothing I have read or heard ANYWHERE says anything about a declaration of war as provided for in the US Constitution.

Are you talking about the premeditated aggression against Iraq that is currently going so well?

Are you talking about the completely mismanaged and ineffective "Department of Homeland Security" activities that are supposed to protect us from "terrorists"?

Are you talking about the nebulous "war on terror" that ShrubCo claims to be waging? If you are referrring to this, how will we, the people, know when we have "won"?

Are you talking about the well managed and extremely successful "war on drugs"?

It is easier to spout the party line than think for yourself. You would have been a good german in the thirties and early forties. No questioning the government, do as you are told. People like you are sad examples of everything that is wrong with the USA.

Do you have an answer to the question "What war?" or are you just being intentionally obtuse?

You could call the Iraq experience a "premeditated war of aggression" and be quite accurate. We will be as successful there as we have been in the "war on drugs".
 

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What IS the liberal's solution to the the war on terror and Iraq? Surrender? Run? Act like the French?
 

kenimpzoom

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funjumper said:
kenimpzoom said:
Next thing you know, you will post the transcrips of how the supreme court stole the presidency from Al Gore.


No further posting till you can cut and paste the Democrat's plan for Iraq.

Google away. :)

Ken

Didn't read the post, did you?

It is beyond your comprehension anyway. Too many big words and complex concepts.

Thanks for playing "I am really ignorant and proud of it" today.

We call it ignunt down here.

Still waiting for that cut and paste.

Ken
 

Haut Medoc

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Well, we've allready lost 70 U.S. troops this month in the what is now the Iraqi civil war.....
Can't say I like those #'s one bit.......JK
 

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ricksrster said:
What IS the liberal's solution to the the war on terror and Iraq? Surrender? Run? Act like the French?


What difference does it make? Pick one. We've now been in Iraq longer than WWII, casualties(killed, wounded, lost to sickness) exceed 8 times those of 911, and nothing's getting any better. The current solution certainly isn't working.
 

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Kwas said:
The Democrats and Republicans authorized the President to go to war, what's your point other then to bash the President?
Yup! Dubya's fault!.......:devil:
 

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its Bush's fault for not fireing his buddy Donald and getting a secertary of defense that can and would have actually placed enough boots on the ground with enough PROPER equipment do do the job.
the President and all the cabinet members were warned numerous times how the Iraq invasion plan was a folly.
seems for 3 1/2 years its still a folly and we are at a point where we cant leave,cant advance and all we can do is hunker down and watch or best die.
not a good way to "win" a war is it?
WWII is not a very good example but in 3 years we defeated not only the german army but the japanese at the same time in the period from jan 1942 to the summer of 45.
why Bush did not fire Rumsfeld 3 weeks after the iraqi war started will remain a mystree forever.
Rumsfeld planned executed and had fired or transfered anyone who did not agree with his planning or execution of the battle plan. seems ole donny's biggest plan was we would be seen as liberators, I lost money on my rose petal stocks.
seems not as many were thrown as Rumsfeld promised.
since then Bush has allowed condaleeza and Rumsfeld to generally run policy into the dirt and refuses to amend the mistake.
thats where its Bush's Fault.
dont even get me started on medicare,social security,border security or or out of control national debt.
but in anycase its either time to commit enough troops and equipment to win what should have been won 3 years ago or get the heck out.
but I did see where another reserve unit is training for deployment to iraq in 08.
 

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funjumper said:
Here is the actual text of pulled straight from the White House web site. Note that the force is authorized to enforce the UN Resolutions. What about the sixty day reports? When do we hear the first one? Never, at least until after November. The Republican controlled Congress has totally and completely failed to impose any checks and balances on ShrubCo. That is why it is critical to vote Democratic in the next election. These aren't Republicans at all. They are a profound threat to the very heart and soul of the USA.

begin quoted text >>>

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq





Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677";

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions," while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable";

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;

Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq".

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to


(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --


(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS

(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).

(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law 93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law 102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law 102-1.


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funjumper

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kenimpzoom said:
Next thing you know, you will post the transcrips of how the supreme court stole the presidency from Al Gore.


No further posting till you can cut and paste the Democrat's plan for Iraq.

Google away. :)

Ken

Why don't you cut and paste the Rescumlican's plan for Iraq? Put up or shut up.

Does "Stay the Course" ring a bell?

How about "We'll stand down when they stand up"?

What exactly is the plan, anyway? Can you find one anywhere? Whatever it is, it has been amazingly successful. (NOT)

"I'll listen to the generals in the field", says shrub. The generals say "We are screwed. There is no way to win the war with military force". And the response from shrub is "those guys don't have any idea what they are talking about." I am sure that you are very proud of shrub. A shining beacon of intellectual and political brilliance, eh?

Have you heard of the recent National Intelligence Estimate?

You know, the analysis from sixteen intelligence organizations that says that the current Rescumlican policies are creating terrorists faster than they can be killed? Surely you have heard of it.

How will we know when we have "won" the war in Iraq?

Inquiring minds want to know....
 

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funjumper,

IMHO neither "side" needs a plan unless somebody says that the current deal sucks. The fact is that we are now a police force until the Iraqi's can handle it themselves. I have the same question for you that has gone unanswered by PW2. If you had the power your ownself, would you return Saddam Hussein to power? Since he managed to contain the pent up violence then I am not sure what else you believe would alleviate the current situation. Orrrrr, do you simply want to biotch? That's cool if that's what you want, if not let's have some actual dialogue.

My question is not rhetorical BTW . . . If you answer yes, at least you're being intellectually honest. If you answer no, then I personally believe that you feel we need to stay. Or maaaaybe if you answer no, then you believe we should just walk. I am not sure what other plan you or anybody else could define since everyday the situation changes for the good a little and the bad a little. If that is understood, there is no ability to have a firm timetable unless you (the US) are in total control, which right now we are not . . .
 

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Pretty hilarious. You put that actual words of LAW in front of people and they sneer, plug their ears, mimic wiping their ass with it and do just about anything but look the facts in the face. We are WAAAAAY outside of the what the resolution provided for, with no accountability and no end on sight. The W sympathizers keep clamoring for a plan from the "left" but sure as the democratic party doesn't know what to do, neither does Bush and Co.

That is exactly why so many people were opposed to this little adventure in the first place. And here we are: can't go forward, can't go backward, can't go sideways. "Stay the course" is not a viable plan, when the course is to just drive around and wait to get shot at or blown up, and then chase down whoever is nearby when it happens.

Where is that 60 day report anyway? Has there ever been even one?
 

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As far as the liberal plan is concerned, last month's Harper's had an article outlining a plan in detail. I didn't agree with every word, but it was a detailed and well-argued plan. Slate.com yesterday had an article by a soldier outlining a plan. I'm sure there are many more proposals out there. I'd link them but I know that you guys who keep asking for them don't really want to know, it's just your way of saying "shut up."

It's not like there aren't any other ideas about how to get out of this mess, it's just that this administration is incapable of change when change needs to be made. Donald Rumsfeld's continues presence is a case in point.
 
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