johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

tbone303

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Hi, new member to the forum, I've seen the thread on here about how to start a motor that hasn't run in a while. The motor belonged to my grandfather and he died 18 years ago and hasn't run in at least 18 years, today i checked the motor there was some gear oil in the lower foot but none when i took the lower drain bolt out. Then i checked the carburator and was full of black and caked soot, the seal around the carburator cover was dry and broke when i took the cover off. I was wondering how much it will cost to get it running again?
 

mkiv808

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

I'm new to outboards, and certainly there are more qualified posters to answer this - but I would imagine you'd have to do the following at minimum:

- Overhaul carbs
- New plugs
- New impeller, check housing
- Change lower unit oil
- Replace lower unit oil screws/gaskets with new
 

watergecko

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

Carb kit $30, plugs $7, gear oil $7, lower oil gasket(screws) $3, impeller $15, bringing grandads motor back to life priceless...sorry mastercard.

Hopefully ignition still good otherwise, coils $40, points/condensers $20.
 

tbone303

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

Carb kit $30, plugs $7, gear oil $7, lower oil gasket(screws) $3, impeller $15, bringing grandads motor back to life priceless...sorry mastercard.

Hopefully ignition still good otherwise, coils $40, points/condensers $20.
Thanks for the replies, and for the prices, my motor looks exactly like yours in the avatar but green. The motor still turns over easy but it is stiff, another question can i do this my self but i am not a mechanic i have no clue what i am doing, or where to get the parts. Thanks
 

Monte1961

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

The first thing you will want to do is check compression. The fact is, from sitting for 18 years, there will be some issues. Pull spark plug/s out and spray some fuel/oil mix into cylinders and spin it over a few times. With compression gauge to check condition. Don't be surprised if it appears a little low, 55-60lbs or above. As long as it's above 55lbs, thats all you will need for now. The reason I say this, if to low on compression, you might want to double check yourself for you could be getting into something that will cost some major $$$. If compression is good, go to the next thing witch is checking for spark. With a spark tester bought from local auto-parts store from $6 to $10.00, install it according to instructions, spark should jump 3/8" gap. Don't be surprised if week or none. At this point, the flywheel will have to come off. With flywheel off, look for cracked coil/s, chaffed wires of any kind. If good, I will suggest even if all looks good, get a new set of point/s and new condenser while flywheel is off. If anything is in question, replace with known good parts. Clean turn plate and all wire connections while your at it. Once that is done and parts are installed per spects, reinstall flywheel and just tighten flywheel nut enough to hold. Now check again for spark. If good, torque flywheel nut to spects. If not, remove flywheel and correct issue/s. Once corrected, spray some fuel/oil mix into cylinder and install spark plug and see if it will run, even for a few seconds. If good then this motor should run good after the rest is completed. 1 Can of Berryman's carb and parts cleaner ought to do it. Remove carb/s. Disassemble carb/s completely removing any and all core/welch plugs. Allow carb/s to soak for 24hrs. While carb/s are soaking, the rest is basic maintenance. Remove lower unit and renew impeller and (housing) if needed. You will also need to pressurize lower unit while off in tank to check for any/all leaks. Repair as needed. Once all completed, you should have a great little motor and feel good about bringing this jewel back to life. You will be spending around $100.00 to complete this if your able to preform these tasks yourself. Good luck and post back with any and questions and issues. Welcome to iboats.
 

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

i agree with monte1961, check the compression first. if its ok, follow the above intructions, and take your time, do it right, if things seem confusing, post back . this forum is excellent, and everybody here who can help.....will help!
 

levi_tsk

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

add to that list of stuff a carb float and i think youll be good to go ... though you can get the coils cheaper on ebay ... theyre tech2o and are around 15 bux each - ive got two of them on my 56 fastwin and they work GREAT!
 

1946Zephyr

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

Thanks for the replies, and for the prices, my motor looks exactly like yours in the avatar but green. The motor still turns over easy but it is stiff, another question can i do this my self but i am not a mechanic i have no clue what i am doing, or where to get the parts. Thanks

1954 - 55 model. I have one myself Cool old motors. You'll love puting it to use.
 

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

And if you are overwhelmed with monte1961's long instructions, I'll give you $10 for it.
 

steelespike

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

Don't panic if compression is low.Get some Seafoam and do a major decarb following instructions
on the container.Many times this will free the rings and improve compression.
 

tbone303

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

I just took of the piece the spark plugs screw into and about the head gasketseal if i put oil around the seal because it is a little dry can the oil make it useable, and is a float necessary cause i don't have the napa part #, and about how much does a compression tester cost. Thanks
 

levi_tsk

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

about 15 bux on ebay or harbor frieght tools (not sure if you guys have one of those up there ?)
if the float in your carb is cork you SHOULD replace it if its plastic you might can get by without it ....
 

tbone303

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

compression tester was $60 on sale , normally $100, spark tester was 11, but napa had no impellar or carb kit, the numbers i got of that site didn't work for them, so i couldn't get parts, so forget about me fixing it now, so i took it to a small motors mechanic and they will look into it and tell me if they can do anything.
 

levi_tsk

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

thats pretty high there ....
go on iboats to get your part numbers ... they should read 18- _ _ _ _ with the underscores being a four digit number you can then either order from iboat Or go to napa with those numbers and they can order you what you need
did you try this part number ? 18-5181 or did you use the six digit number?- the six digit # is an omc part number and it wouldnt surprise me at all if NAPA couldnt find it that way... and ive also found that if i talk to the oldest guy in the place (60+ is best) i can get what i need otherwise its a crap shoot and i end up getting alot of " oh i dont know if we can get that " in an Eeyore tone of voice

if no old farts are available at your local napa ask for their sierra catalog and find em yourself
 

tbone303

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

i talked to a guy that was atleast 60 i used ex for carb kit 18-7043 and he couldn't find anything, the other numbers were 18-xxxx. The 18-5181 was for what part?
 

nwcove

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

i bought a compression tester at canadian tire, 30 bucks..taxes in. had no problem getting an impeller and a set of carb gaskets from napa, all the sierra part #'s are what to ask for there. hope you dont have a bad experience with the place you took the motor to.
 

1stgenbird

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Re: johnson seahorse 5.5hp, hasn't run in 20+ years

From your original question, I take it that this is the only outboard you have. If that is the case, and if it was me, I would weigh the cost of parts and the cost of purchasing the necessary basic tools; compression tester, spark tester, torque wrench, etc, against how much this motor is worth. As it was your grandfather's outboard you are trying to resurrect, there may be sentimental value for you. If not, you may want to think twice about it. I have seen outboards of that vintage in really good shape around here sell for $200 - $250. You are probably going to have that much invested just to get your outboard to basic running condition, not to mention your time to work on it.
On the other hand, maybe you will find tinkering with this old outboard fun and pick up other old outboards here and there. If so, the tools will be used for those too.
 
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