Latest JFK Documentary

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Over the weekend I happened to be watching the Histroy Channel when they aired a documentary which was among the very last work done by Peter Jennings.<br /><br />I expected another long series of interviews with people who all had different takes on who and why. What I saw was surprisingly different.<br /><br />I have long believed that it was indeed a conspiracy, and that it was carried out over Vietnam, Cuba, monetary policy, or some such thing. This documentary, however, was very well done and gave very persuasive evidence and documentation that indicates the Warren Commission was correct in its conclusion.<br /><br />The program gave the details of what made Oswald tick, and why he became an assassin. It proved that many of the so-called errors the Commission made were in fact not errors. It also pointed out the deceptions and twists that Oliver Stone incorporated into his movie about the assassination.<br /><br />I think I now have to give up on that particular conspiracy theory. Interestingly enough, seeing this and being convinced seemed to lift a certain amount of weight from my shoulders...I feel liberated.<br /><br />And now I see with stunning clarity that the real conspiracy is the intent of a few to totally undermine our belief in and support of our institutions and traditions---whilst they tell us that our institutions are out to deceive us.<br /><br />Ain't that somethin'?!?
 

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JFK was killed by the Mob, those in the know have always known this! There was more than one shooter. The person they blammed it on was just a patsy.<br /><br />Im not kidding around, Im dead serious!!
 

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LubeDude, if you get a chance, see the documentary. The explanation given makes perfect sense and fits perfectly with all the evidence.<br /><br />Oswald was one of those people who was dying for attention and always went against the grain in order to get it. He even attempted to assassinate another political figure in the Dallas area long before he shot Kennedy. And he was an ardent communist.<br /><br />Ruby was a hotheaded knucklehead who was never taken seriously by the mob. Had he been sent to bump off Oswald, they would have had to silence him too. But they did not do that, did they?<br /><br />Did anyone else see the documentary I'm talking about?
 

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Here is a link to an explination about a new book out that explains it all.<br /><br /> New Book
 

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Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /> JFK was killed by the Mob, those in the know have always known this! There was more than one shooter. The person they blammed it on was just a patsy.<br /><br />Im not kidding around, Im dead serious!!
And let there be no mistake about it fellers, LubeDude is in the know, and you've heard it first right here at Dockside on the the iboats forum :p
 

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Originally posted by LubeDude:<br /> JFK was killed by the Mob, those in the know have always known this! There was more than one shooter. The person they blammed it on was just a patsy.<br /><br />Im not kidding around, Im dead serious!!
JFK Should not have turned on the people who got him elected.<br />I agree.<br /><br />dogsdad<br />Peter Jennings/Jerkings Ted Crapol, Ed Assner, and the list goes on are just a bunch of left wing whacko's. IMO ;) <br />Look up Peter Jennings/Michael Moores<br />"In Search of Christ" <br />I wasted my time watching this.<br />Peter Jerkings concluded that yes Christ most likely existed, but he was just a local politician of his time.<br />Arrrrg :) <br />Guess I'm biased when it comes to PJ :D
 

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What? Oliver Stone had inaacuracies and deceptions in his movie? <br /><br />NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! That's incredible. :rolleyes: <br /><br />Who'd a thunk a Hollywood director would do something like that????<br /><br />UFM82<br /><br />Kennedy died of a drug overdose. The film was a fake and Oswald was a plant. It's sooooo obvious that Bush Sr. had him killed.
 

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Link, it was precisley because Jennings narrated it that I expected the Warren Commission to be discredited and some conspiracy theory promoted. I was even further shocked when they discredited Oliver Stone, which they did with vigor.<br /><br />I think that it demonstrated quite ably that Oswald was the lone assassin. And the analysis of his personality, the man who "wanted to be somebody, works quite well with the evidence.<br /><br />The evidence and rumors of evidence of a conspiracy just never seem to turn up anything concrete. A conspiracy would have leaked all over the planet by now.<br /><br />There was no conspiracy, just a frustrated commie that even the Soviet Union did not want in its midst.
 

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Heya dogsdad<br />Thanks for the reply.<br />I have seen that also. (I think) And it was convincing. I try to keep a open mind. (thats assuming I have a mind) :D But anyway, if that was the only film I had seen I would agree 100% as it was very well done. But I've also seen other films with interviews that paint a different picture. I guess its one of those things that we will never really know. <br />At this time I'm still with LubeDude though and think it was a MOB hit.<br />Can you look in your TV guide and give me a name of the film? I don't have cable but it should be available. Always willing to learn and you said it was one of Peter Jennings last works.. so I may not have seen it.<br />Thanks <br />Link
 

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I am trying to find out whern this will air again but nothing, zippo, nada. I tried History Channel (found it, but it does not show any upcoming dates) and TiVo. Anybody else know how to search for upcoming showings?
 

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Link, I believe the title was Beyond Conspiracy. A search has turned this documantary up as a production of ABC News (which does make sense, having Jennings involved), but I am fairly certain I was watching the History Channel. I could be mistaken, though.<br /><br />I have seen quite a few documentaries on the subject, and every one of them appears to support its own conclusions quite well, but there is a very wide variance in the different conclusions. One of them left me believing, if briefly, that LBJ was undoubtedly behind it, and there were many people interviewed who lent credibility to that conclusion. That's just one example; there are many more. <br /><br />Here's something to think about: if it was a conspiracy, then why did Oliver Stone have to try to use so many lies and distortions in his movie to try to prove it?<br /><br />And if it was a mob hit, why hasn't the truth leaked out by now? Surely some old Mafioso on his deathbed would have revealed some of the information by now.<br /><br />Here's another thing to consider: the reason that no significant, credible evidence in the case has come to light in many years for one reason---the perpetrator of the crime was killed, and the man who did that knew nothing beyond the fact that he was willing to go to jail to avenge the dead President.<br /><br />Like I said---the real conspiracy is an attempt to undermine our faith in our own institutions!
 

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Originally posted by Vlad D Impeller:<br /> And let there be no mistake about it fellers, LubeDude is in the know, and you've heard it first right here at Dockside on the the iboats forum :p
:cool: And dont you ever forget it!!! :cool:
 

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So, LubeDude.... 'Fess up....It was you on the "Grassy Knoll"...Wasn't it? ;) :D ....JK
 

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DogsDad, Techno<br />Thanks for the name and effort<br /><br />I can just look it up in the cable listing and have a friend tape it for me.
 

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it was a repulican cover up led by G W Bush<br /> ya thats it.<br /> actually I cant believe oswald acted alone, I have shot various weapons over the years and consider myself decent with a firearm.<br /> I just cant believe that with the POS weapon he used and the time frame of the 3 shots Oswald acted alone.<br /> I dont know if it was a mob hit or a political/mob hit. I just dont think oswald had the skill. also knowing the kennedy family had made many many enimies and several family members have been shot at or outright assasinated old man Joe must have made some powerful enimies.<br /> will the world ever know what happened? most likly not. did Oswald posses the shooting skills nessasary to do what he was accused of? most likly not.
 

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Oswald qualified at least twice as a Marine Corps marksman (or it may have been sharpshooter level). The longest shot that would have been required from the sixth floor window in the book depository was 88 yards. An 88 yard shot with a scope is extremely easy, for someone who can shoot, it's a piece of cake.
 

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The only thing weird about Oswald was he defected to Russia, and then was allowed to come back to the USA without any problems.<br /><br />I just dont see that happening without someone twisting an arm.<br /><br />Ken
 

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Originally posted by dogsdad:<br /> The longest shot that would have been required from the sixth floor window in the book depository was 88 yards. An 88 yard shot with a scope is extremely easy, for someone who can shoot, it's a piece of cake.
Its not one shot that is in question, its the series of shots fast as they were. Just not possable to do accuratly with a bolt action riffle.
 

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See, I told ya!.....It was Lubedude on the 'Grassy Knoll'..... ;) .....It just sounds like he has insider info... ;) ....JK
 

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> I just cant believe that with the POS weapon he used and the time frame of the 3 shots Oswald acted alone.<br />
rodbolt, did you see the documentory? Two things they showed counter your belief. <br /><br />One, the showed several pages of his Marine Corp timed shooting record. He shot extremely well, at targets similar to Kennedy's head/shoulder profile, at ranges well beyond his distance from Kennedy.<br /><br />Second, they showed an 80 year old (expert) who shouldered, aimed, fired and recocked 3 times in about 6.7 seconds. The actual time span between the first and third shots was (i think) 8.2 seconds. It was very convincing.<br /><br />The Doc. also showed a lot of other well displayed data that supported the Warren Commission.
 
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