POINTER94
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Re: leaking classified information on the USA
Charactor assasination? Like the one you did on the scientist who opposed the global warming theory? You are funny. I posted a response to your post. The man is a liar. And not a very good one. He contridicts himself constantly. I have sited at least 15 separate and distinct sources, and at least 10 different occasions of his lying. But you are confused?<br /><br />Mislead? What part of writing a hit piece riddled with lies in the NY Times, and subsequently his book, and numerous interviews would you consider in the best interest of your super secret under cover wife? What exactly is smart or even consistant with a deep cover agent, attempting to get employment for her husband through nepotism if they are in deep cover? For gods sake the man is a former ambassador. If you were in fear for your life would you consider having you and your husbands picture on the cover of Vanity Faire a good move? Their actions and responses lead me to believe they are liars on many levels. But Joe Wilson is by anyone's definition a liar.<br /><br />I am of the opinion that they outed themselves by making themselves media darlings, and not honest ones. Your inferences against my integrity are starting to **** me off. Your inability to understand doesn't make me wrong, it just says something about you.<br /><br />Lets look at your post.<br /><br />You got the time-line all wrong! Joe Wilson went to Niger, told the administration there was not proof of a "yellow cake" sale or attempted sale to Iraq. <br /><br />Wrong, as outlined by the above post. In detail. By mulitiple sources. <br /><br />When the administration continued to repeat the "yellow cake" lie, Wilson wrote an op-ed to the NY Times.<br /><br />Wrong, The administration: 1) never read his report. 2) The yellow cake story was in fact supported by Wilson in his report to the CIA and backed up. "According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998." Washington post link. <br /> <br /><br />In a pattern of retalliation that has become only too apparant with this administration, they outed Wilson's wife. <br /><br />Wrong. Special prosecutor Fitzgerald has been on this for how long and how many indictments/convictions has there been? ZERO. You are propogating rumors and speculation not facts. Innocent until proven guilty? Or guilty when accused by a documented liar? I opt for the first.<br /><br />It was then, and only then, after "Valarie Plame" became a household name, did Mr and Mrs Wilson do the Vanity Fair piece and pose for the picture! So get your fact straight Pointer!<br /><br />My facts are straight. And my timeline was right on. Wilson is a liar. And you are buying it for whatever reason. Your facts are off. Are you trying to mislead the iboat community? My short version bore this out:<br /><br />jmonica,<br /><br />""Joe Wilson went to Niger, told the administration there was not proof of a "yellow cake" sale or attempted sale to Iraq. When the administration continued to repeat the "yellow cake" lie, Wilson wrote an op-ed to the NY Times.""<br /><br />False.................<br /><br /> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html <br /><br />How many times can you be wrong in one paragraph? He didn't give the report to the administration nor did they see it, His report actually bolstered the case for the yellow cake theory, The administration repeating this lie would be interesting if the lie wasn't supported by the one who is claiming it was a lie.<br /><br />In fact he never even claimed to have TOLD the administration. Are you lying? Are you trying to mislead the iboat community? How can anyone believe anything you post? See how stupid playing sniper can be.<br /><br />Valarie Plames status at this time is unresolved and your opinions stated as facts don't help me reach any conclusion. But the Wilson-Plame legacy of lies tells me volumes about their status. <br /><br />My buddy DJ (not the one that frequents this board) sent me this last year and it once again puts Ol' Joe in a position of being a liar. This is what helped form my opinion of the matter. It is an opinion derived from Joe's own Book!<br /><br />"In The Politics of Truth, former ambassador Joseph Wilson writes that he and his future wife both returned from overseas assignments in June 1997. Neither spouse, a reading of the book indicates, was again stationed overseas. They appear to have remained in Washington, D.C., where they married and became parents of twins. (Related story: Bush waits on Rove)<br /><br />Six years later, in July 2003, the name of the CIA officer - Valerie Plame - was revealed by columnist Robert Novak.<br /><br />The column's date is important because the law against unmasking the identities of U.S. spies says a "covert agent" must have been on an overseas assignment "within the last five years." The assignment also must be long-term, not a short trip or temporary post, two experts on the law say. Wilson's book makes numerous references to the couple's life in Washington over the six years up to July 2003."<br /><br /><br />Please share your wisdom on how this is possible. I am sure we are all sitting on pins and needles to see what kind of man you are.
Charactor assasination? Like the one you did on the scientist who opposed the global warming theory? You are funny. I posted a response to your post. The man is a liar. And not a very good one. He contridicts himself constantly. I have sited at least 15 separate and distinct sources, and at least 10 different occasions of his lying. But you are confused?<br /><br />Mislead? What part of writing a hit piece riddled with lies in the NY Times, and subsequently his book, and numerous interviews would you consider in the best interest of your super secret under cover wife? What exactly is smart or even consistant with a deep cover agent, attempting to get employment for her husband through nepotism if they are in deep cover? For gods sake the man is a former ambassador. If you were in fear for your life would you consider having you and your husbands picture on the cover of Vanity Faire a good move? Their actions and responses lead me to believe they are liars on many levels. But Joe Wilson is by anyone's definition a liar.<br /><br />I am of the opinion that they outed themselves by making themselves media darlings, and not honest ones. Your inferences against my integrity are starting to **** me off. Your inability to understand doesn't make me wrong, it just says something about you.<br /><br />Lets look at your post.<br /><br />You got the time-line all wrong! Joe Wilson went to Niger, told the administration there was not proof of a "yellow cake" sale or attempted sale to Iraq. <br /><br />Wrong, as outlined by the above post. In detail. By mulitiple sources. <br /><br />When the administration continued to repeat the "yellow cake" lie, Wilson wrote an op-ed to the NY Times.<br /><br />Wrong, The administration: 1) never read his report. 2) The yellow cake story was in fact supported by Wilson in his report to the CIA and backed up. "According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998." Washington post link. <br /> <br /><br />In a pattern of retalliation that has become only too apparant with this administration, they outed Wilson's wife. <br /><br />Wrong. Special prosecutor Fitzgerald has been on this for how long and how many indictments/convictions has there been? ZERO. You are propogating rumors and speculation not facts. Innocent until proven guilty? Or guilty when accused by a documented liar? I opt for the first.<br /><br />It was then, and only then, after "Valarie Plame" became a household name, did Mr and Mrs Wilson do the Vanity Fair piece and pose for the picture! So get your fact straight Pointer!<br /><br />My facts are straight. And my timeline was right on. Wilson is a liar. And you are buying it for whatever reason. Your facts are off. Are you trying to mislead the iboat community? My short version bore this out:<br /><br />jmonica,<br /><br />""Joe Wilson went to Niger, told the administration there was not proof of a "yellow cake" sale or attempted sale to Iraq. When the administration continued to repeat the "yellow cake" lie, Wilson wrote an op-ed to the NY Times.""<br /><br />False.................<br /><br /> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html <br /><br />How many times can you be wrong in one paragraph? He didn't give the report to the administration nor did they see it, His report actually bolstered the case for the yellow cake theory, The administration repeating this lie would be interesting if the lie wasn't supported by the one who is claiming it was a lie.<br /><br />In fact he never even claimed to have TOLD the administration. Are you lying? Are you trying to mislead the iboat community? How can anyone believe anything you post? See how stupid playing sniper can be.<br /><br />Valarie Plames status at this time is unresolved and your opinions stated as facts don't help me reach any conclusion. But the Wilson-Plame legacy of lies tells me volumes about their status. <br /><br />My buddy DJ (not the one that frequents this board) sent me this last year and it once again puts Ol' Joe in a position of being a liar. This is what helped form my opinion of the matter. It is an opinion derived from Joe's own Book!<br /><br />"In The Politics of Truth, former ambassador Joseph Wilson writes that he and his future wife both returned from overseas assignments in June 1997. Neither spouse, a reading of the book indicates, was again stationed overseas. They appear to have remained in Washington, D.C., where they married and became parents of twins. (Related story: Bush waits on Rove)<br /><br />Six years later, in July 2003, the name of the CIA officer - Valerie Plame - was revealed by columnist Robert Novak.<br /><br />The column's date is important because the law against unmasking the identities of U.S. spies says a "covert agent" must have been on an overseas assignment "within the last five years." The assignment also must be long-term, not a short trip or temporary post, two experts on the law say. Wilson's book makes numerous references to the couple's life in Washington over the six years up to July 2003."<br /><br /><br />Please share your wisdom on how this is possible. I am sure we are all sitting on pins and needles to see what kind of man you are.
I got involved with this discussion to point out the hypocrisy of the righties getting all hysterical over the secret prison leak and at the same time defending the outing of a COVERT CIA AGENT. 