Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

Steve91T

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http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=457402

Here's the thread I started in the Sea Ray forum. After I posted, I thought that maybe I'd get the opinions of the entire forum, instead of just the Sea Ray guys.

I'm just looking for opinions on performance, durability, and overall opinions on this boat.

Thank you,
Steve
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

With the 260 hp drive, it should perform similar to your 4.3. The pics are not clear enough to see the cosmetic condition well, you can determine that if you go to see it. Take a close look at the outdrive, is it the original shiny black, or has it been touched up? Dings in the skeg or prop? Will the owner put it in writing that there's no known problems with the floor, transom or drive?
For an '87, the $7500 price seems quite high. Try a lookup on eBay, will see some random listings.
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

look over in the restoration section under Frisco Boaters thread on his recent SeaRay purchase experiance. ugly:eek:

it will give you an idea what to look for.
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

that paint does not look all that great... Looks rattlecan from the pictures... Has the outdrive stored up and covered with a bag? That is a lot of cash for such a boat it's 24 years old... Not that my boat isn't 24 years old too but I only gave a grand for it...
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

I've been doing a lot of research and it seems like it should be priced down around $4K.

I was hoping the pictures just didn't come out that great. You may be correct.

I'm trying to decide if I even want to take the time to see it.

Steve
 

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I would go take a look at it... I really like how the inside is setup and that long bench on the port side looks slick... But it is high priced... People spend a lot on their boat and expect to get it back and that not the case... The pictures may be just crappy cause its inside a shop... The more rigs you go look at the better you will get at shopping for em... I also checked the price on it... I came around 4k.. I don't know the model but being that age it's just not worth 7
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

Just got back from looking at the boat. The pictures definitely did not do it justice. The blue is a deep blue, fresh paint. Some orange peal, but that's ok. The gel coat has hardly a scratch on it, and has no oxidation. I couldn't find any stress cracks anywhere. The interior was very clean. It was sitting outside, with the boats covers on, and then a huge tarp over it. We unstrapped the front and climbed into the boat, leaving the back of the boat still covered. We noticed that there was no damp or musty smell. The carpet and upholstery is in great shape, definitely looks original, but you wouldn't know it was an 87. The engine, from what i could see, was extremely clean. No rust, and all hoses look new. The outdrive looks great, with no dings. I do know the owner had just serviced the outdrive, with new gimbal bearings and bellows. The trailer was freshly painted with a metallic silver, and the tires are new. It's also got a new surge brake assembly.

The owners friend was there to show us the boat. Unfortunately, he doesn't know a whole lot about the boat. What he does know is that the guy took it in as a trade, but decided to keep it for him and his wife. They didn't have time to use it much last year, that's why he's selling it.

I told him that I want to talk to the owner, because I have questions that this friend can't answer.

I have to say, my wife and myself were very impressed with this boat. Very clean and very roomy inside. Tons and tons of storage. We really like the layout also. I didn't think I'd like the bench seat on the left side, but once I saw it, I really like it.

If I'm going to go any further, I need to talk to this guy and get some details on the engine, outdrive, and condition of the floor. Even though it was dry and there were no soft spots, I need to get in there and poke around a little more.

I don't think this is a $4000 boat, but it's definitely not a $7000 boat. I'm honestly thinking that I'd be comfortable with $6000. $5000 would make me very happy, but I know that's not going to happen.

I want to talk to you guys about this size boat with this engine. Here's what I liked about my 19 ft Larson. 50 MPH top speed, quick acceleration, and good handling. It was fairly nimble. It was easy to pull a tuber or a skier. I could also launch and recover by myself with ease. It was also pretty good on gas. But what we didn't like was that it was fairly small inside. It also had a pretty rough ride.

Stingrays really appeal to me. They are fast. I like that. I want my next boat to be fun to drive. I'm not saying I want a Donzi (well, I do), but I don't want a sluggish pig. Honestly, the way the Larson performed was great. I understand that this boat is bigger and heavier, but it does have the 350 V8. As long as I find the sweet spot, how much more fuel will this thing burn compared to a 19 ft 4.3?

I'm sorry to write a book, but I'm just needing some help. I'd like to hear what you guys think now that I gave you more information. Once I talk to the owner, and I'm still interested, I'll have him pull the boat into his shop and take the covers off so I can really climb around it and remove some access covers in the floor to see what I can find. If that passes, then I'll ask for a test drive.

Anyway, thanks again. I really appreciate the help.

Steve
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

I know a guy that can make a $2K car sell for $5K by simply detailing it. Granted, he measures the paint's depth, gets rid of holograms, swirl marks, etc. I can see where he is coming from in the asking price, he just needs to justify it. Have a mechanic come and look at the boat. That boat is a 1987 and this is 2011. You will have issues...
 
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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

I worth whatever you're willing to pay. :)

My boat is worth $18.000 but I didn't pay that for it. :)
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

Can anyone give me some insight on what the performance/handling is like?
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

I would get it checked out thoroughly by a pro. Engine and hull. Its worth the expense. It's very hard to find a boat that old without any rot. Ask Frisco...

My boat has a 260hp in a 20' boat. It performs well, similar to your previous boat i would imagine. But I wouldn't expect that Sea Ray to drive like a sports car. It's more of an open bow day cruiser, IMO. I'm sure you could tube and ski with the correct prop.

I'd like a boat like that if I didn't have to trailer too much.

Good luck.
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

Mariah, thats a common brand. I can't speak to their reputation, but it looks like a really cool boat. I still would have it checked over throughly. Should perform much better than the 24 Sea Ray.

What type of water are you boating on? Big water? small water? Salt?
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

It does look like a good boat. I'll get more info on it tomorrow when the marina is open.

We will be boating at Smith Mountain Lake, an average to small size lake.

Thanks,
Steve
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

Mariah is a great boat, but no way I would give 7995 for a 95 bow rider without a trailer.
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

Steve, Just a little advice from a old fart. :D

Buy a freshwater lake boat if you can. :)
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

I would never pay asking price, maybe that price including the trailer.

I had one salt water boat, never again. Being that salt water is a long ways away, it's probably a lake boat. I'll definitely have it checked out by a qualified mechanic, even coming from a marina.

Even though the Mariah isn't as big as the Sea Ray, I'm liking this boat better.

Steve
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

If you plan on trailering, 20' seems much more manageable. Also unless you're bringing 6-8 people with you every trip, the bigger boat is bound to use more fuel, even when its just 2 people.
 

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Re: Looking at a 1987 24ft bow rider this afternoon...

He wouldn't see enough differences to really care. :)

Plus DON'T ever buy a boat without a sea trial FIRST.
 
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