Lost Anchor

[emoney]

Re: Lost Anchor

If you can't find it, I'm almost certain you can find a local "bottom cleaner" (diver) that will pull it up off the bottom for $100 or less. It'll be a lot cheaper than buying a new one.

+1 to changing out the hooking system to a screw-tight "C" clamp system. Make sure you use stainless or it won't come off eventually.

 

[mesajeeper]

Re: Lost Anchor

By "Anchor Rope Clip", I will assume you mean as spring loaded Carabiner style clip.
One good twist and these can "Cam Out" of the connection.
You should be a believer now!

More than one person has died using these in climbing gear.
And Yes, I know they are commly used in recreational climbing.

Use a shackle or a locking Carabiner if you do not want to loose it again.

I am certainly a believer! I will replace all my anchor rope clips with something that locks ASAP. I never knew these were a problem. I assumed that since the rope i purchased was an "anchor line" with an "anchor clip" I was using the right connection. I am still baffled on how the anchor came unhooked and the clip did not seem damaged in anyway.

 

[H20Rat]

Re: Lost Anchor

I am certainly a believer! I will replace all my anchor rope clips with something that locks ASAP. I never knew these were a problem. I assumed that since the rope i purchased was an "anchor line" with an "anchor clip" I was using the right connection. I am still baffled on how the anchor came unhooked and the clip did not seem damaged in anyway.

Fairly easy to do. The rope just has to double back on itself so it pushes against the clip, and it will instantly spring open. You might get away with it for a long time, or it might be the first time out, but if its a non-locking clip, it will eventually happen.

 

[UncleWillie]

Re: Lost Anchor

I am certainly a believer! ... I am still baffled on how the anchor came unhooked and the clip did not seem damaged in anyway.

Easy as 1,2,3!


A little slack in the line, a half twist, and it's gone!

 

[emoney]

Re: Lost Anchor

Get a chain quick link or an Anchor shackle. Either one screws into itself for best results.

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: Lost Anchor

The bummer is I am partners on the boat with my brother so I will replace the anchor with the stainless one whether we need it or not. I will always make good on my half of the deal. .

If you are 50/50 partners, just tell him sorry, it was his anchor that came loose, not yours.

 

[dingbat]

Re: Lost Anchor

Moss covering the bottom?? depth finders, fish finders, side imaging units will not detect the anchor in the moss, vegetation.

A 2D sounder would have to be a complete piece of junk not to be able to see a SS anchor in vegetation.

As also stated, the cone of visibility in 8 feet of water is very small. Depending upon the operating frequency of the depth finder 455 kHz or 800 kHz determines the width of the scan.

The frequency has absolutely nothing to do with beam angle. The beam angle is determined by the geometry of the pizeo.

At 8' a 20 degree transducer is looking at roughly 3.5' in diameter. A 45 degree beam angle gives you 8' radius.

 

[rallyart]

Re: Lost Anchor

UncleWillie, that is an excellent set of pictures.

Oh, and the SS Box Anchor is sooooo pretty you know why they sell for that much.

 

[WIMUSKY]

Re: Lost Anchor

If you are 50/50 partners, just tell him sorry, it was his anchor that came loose, not yours.

Good one.

Never saw a box anchor until looking up the link. Good luck finding it under 4 feet of vegetation....

 

[UncleWillie]

Re: Lost Anchor

...The frequency has absolutely nothing to do with beam angle. The beam angle is determined by the geometry of the piezo.

At 8' a 20 degree transducer is looking at roughly 3.5' in diameter. A 45 degree beam angle gives you 8' radius.

The Geometry of the transducer determines the Beam angle and the Frequency.
They are all tightly related.
You will never see a Low Frequency, Narrow Beam transducer, or vice versa.

At 8' a 20 degree transducer is looking at roughly 2.8' in diameter.
A 45 degree beam angle would give you a 6.6' diameter. (3.3 radius)

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Although not needed for a box anchor, if it had a chain attached , that would make things a lot easier.

 

[mesajeeper]

Re: Lost Anchor

Update!! I went to the lake last night to the cove where I lost the anchor. The vegitation was much thicker than I had anticipated. I have a expandable dock pole that expands to I believe 10 feet and I was not able to touch bottom. Even with the vegitation just below my belly while snorkling I still could not touch bottom. I think I am probably out of luck. I don't own any graphs or sonar but I am guessing that they are not going to see under that much moss right? I guess it is time tor fess up and order a new anchor.

On the bright side, my kids were slaying the bluegill while I was swimming around. My 13 year old was trying toss the blugill on my back while I was snorkling. Good thing he is not a very good aim!!

Thanks for all the ideas and help,

Curt

 

[UncleWillie]

Re: Lost Anchor

... I don't own any graphs or sonar but I am guessing that they are not going to see under that much moss right? ...

Sonar sees changes in density in the water.

Fish are not a lot different from the water.
But their swim bladders have air in them.
When you detect a fish on sonar you are really detecting their swim bladders.
Big fish = Big Bladder = Big Air Bubble.

Moss is 99% water and may be close to invisible to the sonar.
For $400 it is at least worth a try.
If you can find someone with a side scan unit you can cover a hundred feet at a time.

If all else fails, try a grappling hook instead of a boat hook.

 

[mesajeeper]

Re: Lost Anchor

Sonar sees changes in density in the water.

Fish are not a lot different from the water.
But their swim bladders have air in them.
When you detect a fish on sonar you are really detecting their swim bladders.
Big fish = Big Bladder = Big Air Bubble.

Moss is 99% water and may be close to invisible to the sonar.
For $400 it is at least worth a try.
If you can find someone with a side scan unit you can cover a hundred feet at a time.

If all else fails, try a grappling hook instead of a boat hook.

To steal a quote from Dumb and Dumber " so you're telling me I've got a chance?" I don't know anyone personally with this type of equipment but I will start asking around. There are plenty of bass boats on this lake so maybe I will have to befriend one of them Anyone reading from Arizona that has this equiptment and frequents Sagauro Lake?