Man vs. Boat (season 1).

bear_69cuda

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Thanks for the inspiration my brutha!

Crystal light is some tasty stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Pmccraney

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Bear_ Oh man I'm I jealous of that new rig....
 

Decker83

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Seams like alot of us or running into problems at the same time. I really hate you have to go to such extremes.

When you put the stringers back in you may want to use a scarf joint. Just a thought.

Good luck and be careful in the heat.
 

Marada92

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

It's sucks having to remove brand new stringers or in my case a brand new transom but just think... Now that you know how to build them it'll go back in quick and easy... Good luck to ya Patrick!
 

Georgesalmon

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Sorry man. However don't worry even a little about not having your stringers or bulkheads in one piece. Just remember that the wood is mostly a form for the fiberglass. The fiberglass is the real strength of the system and as long as you do a good job with it (as you have already demonstrated you can do) your structure will be as strong or even stronger than it was originally.

Heck, I worked for one company that makes hollow fiberglass stringer and bulkheads on a mold and glues them to the hull in an off shore fishing boat.
 

*EdC*

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Yes, indeed.... In retrospect, I could/should have built a better cradle. I felt/looked good at first, but you may recall that I "blew out" a caster wheel and my whole assembly cratered a bit... I walked into the shop one day and the boat was just about on the ground.... (I think it had been that way for a couple of days).... I had to jack up the boat; change the caster, and re-build the assembly... I am sure that didn't help either.

Hind sight is a wonderful thing! Having to go in reverse stinks. But, better now then later. You'll get it fixed and be moving foward again soon
 

rrumba

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Sorry to hear about the probs there Pat, but not to bad where you cannot recover from it. Sorry, i have been out at SSI enjoying the beach with the family so i am getting caught up on everyone's thread, not to mention it's hard to work on my own with the rain still falling in the afternoon.
 

CaptainKickback

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Patrick, sorry to hear about your problem. You said you were having trouble finding yhe right tool to get the rest of the stringer FG out. I used a 7" buffer/sander with a 24 grit disc. It worked great to get everything smooth down to the hull

Sea ya...
 

Brenn

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

sorry about the latest setback,hopefully it doesnt cost you to much time overall.
 

Pmccraney

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Okay gang, grab a cup of coffee.... Long-ish post/gut spilling to follow:

For the past several months, I have been struggling with whether this boat is right for me and my family... I originally "backed into" this boat because I had an interest in maybe restoring an old wooden chris craft or century. Most of the wooden boats were out of price range and skill set (both acquisition price and restore costs). When I saw this figerglass boat, it caught my eye (it was made the year I was born which I thought was neat) and I also thought it would be a way for me to have a classic runabout with a less involved restore than a wooden boat. I miscalculated on several fronts. Due to shipping costs to get the boat here, having to re-power with a new drive-line, etc..., I will blow my budget out of the water to get this to half-way to completion and for what... A boat that I am really not sure is right for me. Why is that?

1. As you guys have seen from the fishing pictures on my thread, I am really a fisherman at heart. I love being on the water, but being on the water with a fishing rod in my hand is what it is all about for me. So, even if I push this boat to completion, I will still be yearning for a fishing rig and probably wouldn't be using this boat much. I would just be diving right into my next project (a fishing boat) and I have a 15K invested in a boat worth a fraction of that, which I rarely use.

2. The lake where my parents live (which is 8 miles away from house) is where we do the lion's share of our boating. We are there just about every weekend in the summer. That lake has a 18 foot, 90 h.p. limit. So, I wouldn't even be able to use "My" boat on "our" lake. My kids love going to the see my folks, and it is a great place for them to hang out (fishing pier, fridge full of juice boxes and popsicles and grandparents to spoil them, etc...). To use my boat, we would have to go to a random lake with no facilities and I would miss out on these times with my folks that are important to me and my family.

3. The only thing my boat would be used for is "going super fast" (which my kids hate, by the way) or cruising or skiing. We already have access to a ski-boat and pontoon and my pops (being the good fella that he is) always has those gassed up for us. So, this boat would be somewhat redundant and not useable/legal on our home water. The only boat they don't have is a true fishing boat (you see where this is gong).

4. The costs of restoring this boat (both direct and indirect) are taking a huge toll on me, my family, my career and my health (both physical and mental). I simply don't have a good set up at the house to work on a glass boat - especially a somewhat larger one. I have tried it and I just don't feel good about causing a toxic plume of fiberglass dust in an area where my kids (and the neighbors kids) play all day. Everything I own (including my car, my garage, etc...) is either stained with polyester resin or reaks of it. Further, the commute to the shop and everything else this involves has dominated my life to the point where other very important things are taking a back seat (faith, family, career, marriage, etc..) and that is not acceptable (i.e. the cost-benefit analysis is really starting to get lopsided in light of some of the above). Plus, I went to the doctor this week and was told I have several "nodules" on my thyroid, which they are going to have to monitor every 6 months. Not cancer and not life threatening, but "something to monitor." Does that have anything to do with playing in acetone, MEK, poly resin and fiberglass for the past year - probably not! - But, it made me rethink my health and not taking health risks that I don't have to (especially with 4 kids).

5. I am not sure the I/O set-up is right for me. As mentioned above, I really don't have a need for a "go fast" (large displacement) boat. The install and maintenance on an I/O from alignment tools, to bellows, to gimbal bearings to transom assemblies is both expensive and somewhat over my head. I think an I/O is a great set-up for somewhat that is very mechanically inclined, has worked on car engines in the past and can do their own service rather easily (or someone who can afford to dry stack their boat and pay someone else to do all this). For me, I think an outboard is the way to go. Plus, I want to use my boat in the back bays on the coast (salt water) for fishing and play and I don't want to rust out my cooling and exhaust parts of my driveline.

So, where do I go from here? I think I am going to move on to a smaller, more manageable fishing rig (probably a metal one - shock and awe, I know) ahead of this one in the rotation. I am going to sell my trailer, driveline, fiberglass supplies, etc... I am going to ask my friend if I can just shrinkwrap my boat and maybe "mothball" on the back of his property. I may come back to it in 6 months, maybe a year, maybe 10 years, maybe never... Or, it may go to another good home (I doubt anyone would want it in its current shape) or to the fill.

Once I liquidate some of my current stuff, I will start looking for another project boat. I am not going anywhere as iboats (and the people here) have become a very welcome and important addition to my life. I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the encouragement, wisdom and know-how that you guys have shared with me. I have enjoyed talking with many of you on the phone, and I know that I will probably meet several of you in person one day. However, I think Man V. Boat - Season 1 is drawing to a close, and I look forward to the next chapter of life and boating with my good friends on this forum.

Thank you, my friends.

PMC
 

jasoutside

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Fist bump, high five, good game. I'm really looking forward to the next match:D
 

wolf81tx

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Well buddy I have to say I'm sorry to you quit your but but I do understand. I think most of us do. Boats are expensive toys to begin with, add on a retoration of one and it's never really cost effective. Most do it because it's something they love to do. If I were you I wouldnt wrap the boat up though. Odds are you won't get back to it until its to late and have to start from scratch. My advice if your serious about moving on to a fishing boat is sell everything that you won't need for the next boat. Keep in mind allot of the material you have can be used on these as well. Give the boat a good pat on the hull and send it to the next person wanting to restore a boat. You won't make your money back but at least you will have something to start your next project with and this one won't be nagging you instead you can concentrate fully on the next.
 

bear_69cuda

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

My Brutha!

Looks like we're in the same boat! It's almost a ditto for all my reasoning's to bail... Happiness is most important!

I think we both made the right decisions man!

I look forward to us both drinking some Kool-Aid, and finding some cool tin boat to mess with!

You rule dood!
 

rrumba

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Patrick,
I feel your pain and am with you on all fronts, especially taking time from the family, marriage, the important things. That is one reason my IMP is just sitting right now and i have not gotten back to working on it. I am with you 100% and am headed down that same road with you. mine will be hitting cL as is or it is to the landfill and sell the trailer.

I have the tinny already, it's almost done and can get me on the water to fish and to ski. besides, i still have to repair damage to my 24ft thompson which i am putting up for sale as well.

Peace brother, let's do some fishing then some tinny work.........
 

jasoutside

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Oh wow! Looks like I ought to start shopping at the warehouse bulk food store for my KoolAid mix:eek::D
 

Willyclay

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

That is one reason my IMP is just sitting right now and i have not gotten back to working on it. I am with you 100% and am headed down that same road with you. mine will be hitting cL as is or it is to the landfill and sell the trailer.

Oh no, say it isn't so! Not that beautiful, classic IMP. Please think on it some more before pulling the trigger.
 

Revenge

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Don't believe it for a second folks! His wife discovered his pass word and wrote this garbage….

Seriously, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed following your project. Sorry to see it end. Having a project myself, I totally understand where you’re coming from.

Best of luck, Don.
 

boatnut74

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

A glass boat is definatly an expensive restoration project. You came a long way on it but it does take away alot from family time, especially with the commute you had to make to work on it. If your main passion is fishing (which it appears to be) a 18' tinny with an outboard would be a good move. You should be able to recoup a good chunk of your money selling off the merc driveline and trailer.
 

ezmobee

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

You fish and pleasure boat with young kids same as I do. A closed bow I/O would be about the LAST boat on my list. I think you're making the right decision. My closed bow was fun but I longed for an open bow the whole time I had it. Got the open bow and have it all set up for fishing with a bow mount troller and fishing seats......friggin' love it.
 

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Re: Man vs. Boat (season 1).

Where will we host the 'giving Jas carp' planning sessions if your next thread is for a tinny?

Best decision for you et al.

If you get time, vacuum up a bit of the sanding dust from the stringer removal & send it to me. I'll add some in the FireFlite's mix & let the CC once again plow smooth waters:eek: And then sprinkle the rest while underway.... Some nice 'vintage' GnR blaring off in the distance.

Hmmmmm, feels like Ride of the Valkyries from Apocolypse Now might be more appropriate.:D


Wait, sending toxic powder thru the mail doesn't sound like a good idea either :facepalm:

Just make 1 of those sand sculptures in a wine glass kind of thing with the powder --- The Admiral will love it! Trust me, would I lie to you?:p

Good decision. Now can we start forwarding a ridiculous volume of tin ads your way? Via text, email or thread, your choice...
 
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