mechanics rates>>>?? WOW

Bob_VT

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What about a barber that gets 10-15 bucks for a haircut and at an average of 4-5 per hour! What is the barber's overhead? A pair of clippers and some scissors?<br /><br />Now look at a mechanic... how much money he has invested in specialty tools....have you ever stopped a Snap-on or Mac tool guy to buy something?<br /><br />I agree with mechanics rates... they have more overhead.
 

a.d.mobile

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marina labor here is 95 to 98.00 dollars a hour and they are 6 weeks behind. antisyphon valves especialy alum ones either strip or break 8 out of 10 times. call the maytag man you have to give him a credit card number before they even show up and they ring it 75 to a 100.00. I fix boats from my truck also. you didnt get robed keep up on maintence and you will probally have no issues. you sorta knew but did not have the confidence to tackle it your self, well now you do. have fun! but if you bag on him he will get his in the long run! bob
 

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It all boils down to supply and demand and what the local market will bare. Look at the price variance between Long Island $105 an hour, (per tommays) and $75 an hour in Upstate SC. <br /><br />Side note: I have a friend who owns an auto repair shop, ($65.00 hr) one of his buddies owns a marine repair shop ($75.00 hr). Both are certified, and both guys think the other guys rate are a little high. Both shops are always booked. BTW they trade labor on a regular basis. Go figure.
 

wvit100

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I'd say that since you called him out there you owe him for his time. Less than $100 for a house call was a deal.
 

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Originally posted by bigbad4cyl:<br />trade .....there are channels to place legitamate complaints against your dentist....iif to many complaints are heard an investigation into the buissness practices will be made ....etc...
Hate to spoil yer day, but a mechanic can be in front of a JUDGE for homicide for killing a boat load of people with bad 'practice"........
 

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I used to do tech work on computers and made a four hour round trip to a customer to plug the cheater cord into the back of a printer that I had first asked him to verify was connected prior to my trip. Was plugged into the wall but not the printer. He wasn't too happy when I picked the unconnected cable up from the floor and proceeded to write up standard service rate charges. Its not the size of the hammer its where you hit it. His knowledge of issues with paper filter problem is really what you paid for. And your back on the water..
 

Haut Medoc

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I gotta agree with Pst 76 and those who are thinking along the same lines. You got off cheap! Be glad it wasn't something worse!
 

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I still think ya got screwed.<br /> not because of what he did but why he did it.<br /> there is no sense in looking at the anitsiphon valve if it passes a fuel system vacum test.<br /> just no reason to.<br />its a matter of logical troubleshooting and a thorough understanding of each part of the sub system and how it interacts with the next.<br /> thats why some of us bill at 75 an hour and are very picky on the jobs we take and others try everything.<br /> a fuel system vacum test will take 5 min to set up and depending on the idle out time maybe 15 min to execute and can nail a fuel problem rapidly. the gauge and T fittngs are maybe 25 dollars.
 

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I agree with Rodbolt... You got screwed... <br />not because of the price you paid, but because you paid a guy to do a diagnosis, and all he did was throw parts at it, even if they were your parts.<br /><br />Next time, if you honestly cant diagnose it yourself, hire a real marine technician. He'll fix it because he knows what he is doing, not because you guessed right. Then he'll charge you appropriately... From my shop you'd have paid $110.00 per hour plus parts. I'll put you on the schedule for sometime in September.( my first service opening...)<br /><br />Do I charge more than a MD? yep... Why? because I know more about a boat than he does...<br /><br />PS. I'd rather my boat mechanic get rich than my Dr. Why does that seem so strange to all of you guys???
 

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Why are boat mechanics more trained than a Nissan master mechanic? We are not billed out at near $100/ hour.
 

bigbad4cyl

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i thaught gas fuel filters had to be made of metal to be coast guard certifiable anyways...
 

Scaaty

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Why wasn't this topic moved to Dockside Chat a long time ago? :D
 

olbuddyjack

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rodbolt n Rabidfish,<br />What would you guys charge to go out to a boat, diagnose the problem and fix it? Granted, the guys troubleshooting methods leave a bit to be desired :rolleyes: , but he did something and the customer is back on the water. Considering the over all cost I find it hard to say "screwed." Coulda been though...<br /><br />cyclops2,<br />Why do boat mechanics bill out at near $100/hr? Because they can. Your not backed till September are you? Course, that don't go on all year. Boatings seasonal and ya gotta make hay while the sun shines. You might want to consider changing your major.<br />
i thaught gas fuel filters had to be made of metal
??? The "cans" do, not the elements. I'm thinking this is a "carb inlet" type, inside the carb. The external, inline type would need a metal jacket.
 

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Last time I will post on this one (hopefully it will get moved to dockside). While anyone can "monday morning quarterback" or second-guess a tech, this story is one side of what happened. Regardless of all of that, if you call a plumber, a HVAC tech, a refridgeration tech, a computer tech or any skilled labor to do a service call to your location, you are going to pay $70-$100 per hour. That is life in 2005,if you want weekend or after hours service, expect to pay double that. There is no reason a marine tech, in the peak of the season should charge less.
 

rodbolt

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olbuddyjack<br /> to find that problem would have been between 50 and 100 dollars. most the time depending on access to the fuel system. takes 3 min to check the carb inlet filter. maybe ten by the time I clock in and look for my tools. sometimes the travel rate cost more than the diagnostics.<br /> myself, here in the salt pond I will test before removing anything at the tank. seems the al to al fittings coupled with salt tend to fuse themselves together. many times the fitting removed brings the bung fitting threads out with it. same as fuel sender screws in aluminium tanks. <br /> cyclops2<br /> the reason is we have 20 or more different models requireing different tooling and training more if the dealer has more than one product line. we also have to deal with power plants run at or near thier max HP all the time. something auto techs cant grasp caause they rarely see a complaint of power loss above 5K RPM after 15 min of run time. I bill 75/hr when working for me and 45/hr when contracting for any of the local marinias I work for. in the past 30 yeaars or so I have been certified in mazda,porsche, chevolet,olds then went to programming and setting up CNC lathes and mills. then I went back to marine then to the US navy's advanced electronics field as an FC. when I was medically retired from that some years back I went back to the marine field. since about 1989 I have been certified in tohatsu,suzuki,yamaha,merc,mariner,force,volvo and mercrusier. never got certified in OMC but worked at an OMC dealer for 2 years and still do some contracting for a BRP dealer. most the time engines are engines. they all have to work the same. just the method changes sometimes. I will bet I own more tooling and test equipment than most auto techs. its expensive and does not last long in a marine environment. over the years I have found meters and other electronic test equipment drowns rapidly on contact with water. screwdrivers dont last very long either. but mostly I charge it cause its fair and the market will bear it. I give a good service for a reasonaable price and try to do it quickly,efficiently and thoroughly and get on to the next project. if your a nissan tech tell me how many maajor jobs are on your work order board, jobs requiring more than 16 hours.<br /> I think there is 11 on mine at one marina. not counting the smaller projects I am supposed to fit in or the ones that come in and talk to the owners of the marinas and their good buddies.
 

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THanks for the input guys... rates are legitimate. And yes, im glad to be back on the water .. for now?? hhahah
 

rodbolt

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nicething about a boat. its either broke or breaking I think. I believe it starts when they taake it from the mold. good luck and remember filters are routine maint. much cheaper to replace thaan trouble shoot.
 

rabidfish

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This is where I differ from Rodbolt.<br /><br />I am not leaving my shop for less than $100.<br />I dont have a service call charge, but I do have a one hour minimum. I charge this much because I can get it. (Or I can stay at my shop and not have to travel) It's a customer conveinence to not have to bring a boat in. I have seen more complaints about prices from folks on this forum than I ever have from my customers. ( most of them tip my techs above the billed costs when they fix their boat)This particular market will bear the costs... not all markets will. And the fact is I can keep the techs busy here in overtime all year round. Most boat dealers don't have a workload like that.<br /><br />I admit it... I like having money... Why should I be poor? As for Nissan techs... I honestly hope you all get rich. (I always tip the techs that work on my trucks) Then go out and buy a new boat! I think we've all earned a raise!
 

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i think you see the complaints here because many people do pay for a EXPERT and dont get one <br /><br />and when they dont they really have no recourse just a boat that still doesent run right<br /><br /><br />the NMMA realizes this is a problem and is working towards a system closer to the auto industry <br /><br />tommays
 

rabidfish

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I agree...<br /><br />I'll also be glad when a system(a real working system)is in place for certifications. I think it will help technicians who are trained and qualified to distinguish themselves. It's been a long time coming.<br /><br />Sorry about the rant...
 
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