Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

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Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

Leave it to the Neocons to bash and discredit a movie that isn't even out yet, and won't be for weeks.

Must've been talking point number three from ol' Carl (the dog ate my e-mails) Rove in this week's e-mail to you guys.

Nope is right -- Sandy has them, and they smell like feet.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

Typical. Unable to respond with substance, liberals attack ad hominum. Karl Rove? What hatred you have Willy. Fear almost always drives hatred. Why are you so afraid Willy? Karl Rove isn't even part of the story. Do facts scare you Willy? Do role models like MM going to Cuba to bash our country make you feel more secure? Are you accustomed to rewarding bad behavior based on political affiliation Willy? It is ok for you to leave your home without government approval Willy. You don't have to ask. Yet. How do you know that is a Cuban cigar Willy? George Soro's tell you that or did you get that right off MM web site? Did Fred Thompson frighten you Willy? Are you going to be alright? Do you like people put in mental institutions for torture Willy? Is that something you support? MM seems to have forgotten or flat out misrepresented people in the past. Do you think he will accurately portray how Castro uses torture against his political adversaries? Do you think the film would be accurate if he didn't? Don't worry Willy, Fred Thompson, and your President, will prevent Castro from putting you in a Mental Institute, and torturing you based on your political views. It would be nice if you would extend that to all others. We know MM won't.

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

I think WillyBWright should change his name to WillyBWrong.

 

[mrbscott19]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

Typical. Unable to respond with substance, liberals attack ad hominum.

You mean like Fred Thompson in the video at the beginning of this thread? No substance whatsoever. Saying Moore belongs in a mental institution is all he's got. That is not a good response. Sounds just like the people that claimed there were a bunch of lies in Fahrenheit 9/11. Name one.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

Ah, a MrScott sighting. I guess you missed future President Thompson's story about other "mockumentary" opps, documentary film makers ending up being tortured by the very person fat boy seeks to hold up as god. In his "health care" facilities! Less you forget, CANADA has socialized medicine, but they are also an open society and facts can be checked there. I wonder why he chose Cuba, other than his admiration for Castro. I guess he did learn something from fatboy 9/11.

This is my personal favorite review of that piece of trash.

To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery.
- Christopher Hitchins, Slate Mag.

(Mr. Hitchins is not exactly a right wing spinner, he is actually left wing, and rather even handed. See his attack on Falwell after his death. Not flattering.)

You have to read it all. The details of his lies, misrepresentations, contradictions, and falsehoods are clearly outlined.

http://www.slate.com/id/2102723

Now take this back to your instructors and have them explain it to you.

 

[BoatBuoy]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

MM is insignificant and the way to make him go away is to ignore him, not confront him. The fact that Thompson even responded to him causes me to question his intellect. Why would one with aspirations of becoming president participate in a food-fight with one so trifling.

 

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MM is insignificant and the way to make him go away is to ignore him, not confront him. The fact that Thompson even responded to him causes me to question his intellect. Why would one with aspirations of becoming president participate in a food-fight with one so trifling.

I agree with you that "the way to make MM go away is to ignore him, not confront him". But I confront stupidity and traitorism wherever I see it. I don't really expect Thompson to be any different. He is obviouslly, like many, (me for one), shaking his head in disbelief, that ANYONE could be so corrupt, in the midst of so much wealth and potential for the honest gain of MORE.

I see MM as a modern-day hitler in both form and function. He uses the same media in most cases, only MM cuts-out the middle man (or woman, in the case of hitler's ,Leni Riefenstahl ).
There is nothing mysterious or god-like about the fat man, BB. He is only doing what he has to do in order to sell his craft. He still lives in America, and that fact alone sheds the light of reality on that whole litle "hate America" BS he spews in public. If he were the least bit sincere, he would donate his profits to alqeuda, and move to afghanistan.
All you need to do is run what the fat man tells you past hisotric factual record, and his facade will crumble at your feet.
He has no redeaming qualities at all (as an actual human anyhow).

Whereas I don't understand ANYONE actually defending the disgusting oportunist, I am under no halucination that many see him as the new messiah of depravity, and will follow him into the depths of it.
If Fred Thomson wants to make a video of his own pointing-out the fat man's mission, I say let him.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

BoatBouy,

You miss the point. MM is the face of the democratic party. He had a box at the last democratic national convention. He recieved a round of applause from the adorning throng of trained seals. The facts didn't matter then, and don't today. The place of honor afforded him by "his people" should never be forgotten. The democrats and MM symbolizm over substance should never be ignored or trivialized.

THIS IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. His big, round, unkept, pair of faces should be on the cover of every mailing right of the communist party. (And they can use him for other reasons in their mailings) MM has done exactly what the democratic party has done. It should never be forgotten. And we should not let them simply allow him to go quietly into obscurity without his "supporters" admitting and acknoledging exactly what he is, and what he has done in the past. I think that they owe the American people an apology. Willy wanting to go see his next movie is the exact reason why we should never let people forget who he is, who he is affiliated with, and which party LOVES him.

Sure, if I were a democrat, I would want him to fade away too. The problem is, when you use someone for political gain, like the democrats did with MM, you are forever linked to them. Congradulations, you have the biggest, and I mean biggest, walking, talking, lying, misrepresenting, example of exactly who, and where the democratic party is today. The democrats chose him, and once you buy a prize, it is yours to keep. For the democrats, their prize is this fat, steaming terd.

 

[BoatBuoy]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

BoatBouy,

You miss the point.

How in he11 could I have missed the point with all your yada-yada about him. No, I didn't miss the point, you did. You are so busy with seething detestation, you missed what I was saying.

We've had over six years of the "guy next door" in the White House. Yea, he might make a great fishing buddy or someone to shoot a round of golf with, but he's greatly exceeded the level of his incompetence and I'm tired of that. I want something better. Fred Thompson's response, although delivered with eloquence and style, is just more of the same low-level thought of which I see so much here, and I'm disappointed.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

BB,

I would have to believe therefore, that you are disappointed in the democratic gains in the house and senate, won solely on the back of campaigns designed to alleign their rivals with President Bush? That was the whole strategy. I think when our troops are called Nazi's, it is the job of the President to "support his troops" and not allow them to be thrown onto the bonfire of political ambition. Or should we have ignored this hyperbole as President Bush did? I believe lunacy, of which MM is the poster pig, should be challenged before it reaches the level of a private box at the democratic national convention. Or to the point where lies are accepted as truths. You will also notice that this message wasn't distributed, or even picked up by the MSM. Seems he got a strong message across without creating much more than a ripple. I believe if I had not posted this, only a small percentage of us would have even known it existed. But, trust me, MM knew.

I am tired of this "freedom to speak whatever suits your needs, facts be damned, and let it go unchanllenged", lassie faire approach by Republicans. I want a conservative to emerge who will in 60 seconds or less, give the appropriate smackdown to whatever radical poster pig the liberals throw up next. It is not beyond them to recycle. See democratic front runner H. Clinton. Talk about living in the past and recycling. Do you think that Socialized medicine will not be an "A" topic in the next Presidential election?

I am looking for a fighter in the next election. Someone who will not let BS float in the public arena unchallenged. I want someone who energizes me, speaks to ideals and not just issues. And I want someone to ACT on those convictions. MM is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with the left today. Count me as one who gives Thompson a mark in the win category for not letting this slob run his mouth unchallenged.

 

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Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

I just read an interview in Time magazine about this MM documentary that is about to come out.
What I gleaned of it,is that this documentary is mostly about the American health care system and its short comings. MM compares it to the Canadian,the French and the Cuban system.
MM claims that the reason why he picked the Cuban system is because it is supposed to be the best in the third world.The life expectancy of the average Cuban is one month more than that of the average USA citizen.This in spite of all the money we have to fork over to the HMOs
MM goes on to say that the USA with all its wealth and knowledge should at least be able to out perform the Cubans.
I think he has a point.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

I suppose numbers provided by Castro, will be well represented in MM film. Here's some from some real doctors. I can't wait for us to get this form of healthcare.

http://www.canf.org/Issues/medicalapartheid.htm

 

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How in he11 could I have missed the point with all your yada-yada about him. No, I didn't miss the point, you did. You are so busy with seething detestation, you missed what I was saying.

We've had over six years of the "guy next door" in the White House. Yea, he might make a great fishing buddy or someone to shoot a round of golf with, but he's greatly exceeded the level of his incompetence and I'm tired of that. I want something better. Fred Thompson's response, although delivered with eloquence and style, is just more of the same low-level thought of which I see so much here, and I'm disappointed.

How the he11 could you have made the twisted contortion from Fred's comments about MM into another oportunity to attack Bush again?!?!?

Oh wait -- I forgot you're a liberal and are infected with the obscession of record.

 

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Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

I suppose numbers provided by Castro, will be well represented in MM film. Here's some from some real doctors. I can't wait for us to get this form of healthcare.

http://www.canf.org/Issues/medicalapartheid.htm

The numbers he used were provided by the World Health Organization.
That is of no great importance.
I have no quarrel with your medical apartheid.That is how it works in the USA as well.Money buys John Hopkins and Broke gets dumped on skid row out of the rear of an ambulance.
No matter where it comes from. Our health care is in deep trouble and highly over priced. Not because we cannot get it right,but because there is too much financial interest pulling it in too many different directions.
It is a good thing that somebody brings it out in the open.You may hate MM, but you must admit that our health care system is in trouble and if he rings the bell loud enough somebody is prone to listen and it is the highest time to get our system fixed.
He made another interesting comment as well.This was about big government.He said government might get health insurance right.As an example of government getting things right he mentioned his uncle's social security payment. According to MM,the check has come in on the same day of the month for the past twenty some years delivered by the USPS.

 

[Skinnywater]

Re: Michael Moore, here's your response to your attacks

"....That is how it works in the USA as well.Money buys John Hopkins and Broke gets dumped on skid row out of the rear of an ambulance......"

Broke who lives on skid row got the free (nothings free by the way)medical care anyway. You want the hospital to be responsible for housing as well?

Health care is in trouble because we have lawyers in governmental positions writing legislation for lawyers. And those lawyers get election campaign money from insurance companys and the pharma industry.

....."This was about big government.He said government might get health insurance right.".....

Funny stuff, a few months ago his ilk was on the Bush administration about Walter Reed and other VA hospitals, which in reality is a microcosm on government run healthcare.

Yeah big government sure worked well in New Orleans too.


....."As an example of government getting things right he mentioned his uncle's social security payment.".....

ANYthing that is even remotely associated with "social" will have MM's seal of approval.

 

[POINTER94]

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/673ytudf.asp?pg=1