Modified v jon boat question

1973Chieftain

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I've been looking at modified v jon boats for duck hunting, and have noticed that there is a 1448M and a 1448MT (Lowe), or M1448 and MT1448 (alumicraft). The specs and pictures are identical. Does anyone know what the difference between a M and a MT are? The manufacturer's websites done specify. Thanks!!
 

robert graham

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While you're shopping maybe check out Express Boats and Sea Ark Boats....they may make a specific Duck Hunting model that would fit your needs.....Some have tunnel hulls for shallow water running...
 

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There are V-Hull boats, Deep-V Hull boats and Modified-V Hull boats. The terms usually signify how far the "V" goes back to the transom.

Jon boats are usually flat bottom boats and have no "V" in the bottom. Some may have a "V" bow, but it doesn't go to the bottom.

Your "Modified V Jon" description doesn't compute.
 

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[h=1]This is how Lowes advertises it;

L1448M Jon The aluminum Lowe L 1448M Big Jon serves up lasting performance and superior value. Enjoy features like a center seat with livewell/storage compartment, two strong lifting handles, and a flat-bottom, modified-V hull design for a smooth ride. [/h]
 

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Isn't a flat- bottom with modified V-Hull an oxymoron? I would never be caught dead in a Jon boat again because I almost was. The worse boating experience in my life and I've been caught on Erie and Lake Nippising in Ontario in 10 to 15 footers but saw the white light with that 12' Jon boat with not even a white cap on the water. I aged 10 years when that thing flipped backwards when I came around a point and was hit by a gust of "mild" wind. I had to wait on shore for an hour waiting for the wind to die down so I could get back to camp soaked to the skin. Never, ever, ever again. The rest of the story is chapter 2 in the novel. I think flat bottom boats are the Chevy Corvair's of the water. They are not meant to be in a body of water. All for a Duck!!!!
 

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They should be called "pointed bow jon boats".
 

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I would never be caught dead in a Jon boat again because I almost was.
But at the same time, some of the skinny waters you get down here in the south - think bayous - and you really wouldn't want too much else. I nice flat bottom and a little outboard that can come up shallow ...

Like anything else, they have their place and their purpose.
 

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Call me Flat Bottom boat prejudice. If a boatmaker approached the British King in the 1700's and suggested the Royal Navy use those things he would be thrown into the Tower of London. But I do get it's function. We have swamps up here in Canada, more than one would think, and Jon boats are very popular. I see the boats they use in "Swamp People", they are so flat they don't even need water to skip across log laden paths on land. To me that is either fake news or amazing they don't peel the bottom of those Air Boats like a tin can.
 

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[h=1]This is how Lowes advertises it;

L1448M Jon The aluminum Lowe L 1448M Big Jon serves up lasting performance and superior value. Enjoy features like a center seat with livewell/storage compartment, two strong lifting handles, and a flat-bottom, modified-V hull design for a smooth ride. [/h]

Surely, their ad does say all that. But then looking at the pic of the boat it says something else. Looks like they have a "crease" in the first 3 feet of the hull, which allows them to call it whatever they want.

Ahhh, gotta love the Madison Avenue Marketing folks.....LOL.

Interesting thread and a lot of bad comments about Jack Boats.

I firmly agree. I travel skinny water all the time and would NEVER consider a Jon. My semi-V works just fine, AND works under all other conditions as well. The ONLY value I can see to a jack boat is maybe it might fit better in the back of your pickumuptruck, so you don't need a trailer.
 

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My 1870 MV Express boat has a 6 degree deadrise at the transom....tapering to mostly flat toward the front....great smooth water, small river, creek, hunting, fishing, camping boat.....rough ride on big choppy water....It all depends on what you're planning to do with your boat...and All boats are compromises anyway!....
 

JimS123

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It all depends on what you're planning to do with your boat...and All boats are compromises anyway!....

I do agree with your statement to a point, depending on who you are and what you're expectations are.

"I own a 14' tinny, that actually I don't own any more because I gave it to my son. Its a modified V, "rugged duty" that is a little wider and deeper than most.

Back in the day we filled her to capacity with 2 adults and 2 pre-teen boys. I originally bought it as a utilty trailer to transport our tent and camping gear and then have a boat when we got to the lake. Well, the lake got boring so we ended up in rivers and some Great Lakes campgrounds and even with the 4 of it it never let us down.

If we had to navigate skinny water way up in the inlets to get the big bass, she worked there too.

Yeah, all are a compromise, but my little Sea Nymph met all her requirements and then some.
 

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For what it's worth, some of the modified v boats are very stable and sea worthy. I've been hunting several years out of my buddy's 18' Triton and it's the most stable boat of its size I've been on, and handles waves up to about 3' quite well. I don't go out if there's much in the way of waves, the hunting isn't very good. It beats the stability of my 16' Sea Nymph to pieces lol
 
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