Nascar...

[bonz_d]

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daycruiser, people are changing the channels now.look at the stands.ok this is strictly personal opion but i hate the chase.nascar isnt hockey or the nfl or any other sport its racing.i do good all year then get punished with 10 to go so some other joker that just rode around can now make a spurt to the finish with nascars help by making him almost equal to me who tried hard all season.mini rant over.

I agree. There should be more emphisis on WINNING and not SHOWING. Gee if I can consistantly finish no worst than tenth all season yet never acually win a race I can still win the Championship. WOW Brilliance, Don't need to be the Best Winner just the most consistant finisher. Ask #48 he'll tell ya.

How about making it more like the PGA and each week has PRIZE MONEY. End of season Most Money Wins Season.

 

[DayCruiser]

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daycruiser, people are changing the channels now.look at the stands.ok this is strictly personal opion but i hate the chase.nascar isnt hockey or the nfl or any other sport its racing.i do good all year then get punished with 10 to go so some other joker that just rode around can now make a spurt to the finish with nascars help by making him almost equal to me who tried hard all season.mini rant over.

Well there is just not much you can do with all the cars going a round and around in the same direction. NASCAR will never please everyone. Many people complained when cars lapped each other many times over and therefore the races were decided early. Many people complain about restrictor plate racing. There is just so many other options for entertainment these days. Hardcore race fans go to the races while others stay home and channel flip or do other things. Many are at the race to party more so than watch the race. Ban Beer from the stadium and see how much that is true.
No matter what NASCAR does, a good many will complain. Attendance is down because society, has changed plays a big part. Peoples attention span has shortened. Kids have many other options to get their attention these days. NASCAR has expanded the pre race showtime, trying to get the fans emotionally attached to the drivers. If you care about a driver then the races may become more interesting to you. Really, I think it is boring people. I don't think there is much they can do to widen NASCAR's appeal. It is what it is as the old saying goes

 

[QC]

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Wow. A lot of contradictions here.

Same guy doesn't like the chase, but also doesn't like playing safe all season to win a championship. Then I read here that green white checkers sucks, but same guy wants them to race for all they got on the last lap. No cautions with 10 to go? WTH? No caution with one to go almost got Danica killed last year at Phoenix and that was NOT her fault.

I was going to multi-quote all kinda stuff here, but it got too damn long. If you read the last two pages of this thread, NASCAR doesn't have a chance. Get over it, NASCAR is a business, it is not some charity for nostalgic fans. The product is what it is today and I like it a lot. Old cars? Unsafe. I like the Lucky dog as it causes a secondary race within a race. I like the wave around; I've always thought that being stuck behind the pace car when you pass the leader is ridiculous. I understand why, but the fact is you passed the leader. You shouldn't get penalized for pitting responsibly and then another guy does something stupid and the yellow comes out.

I think NASCAR does the best they can with an imperfect sport/product. Heck, short track racing at local tracks has all kinds of gimmicks and rules and opinion based changes. The flipped up NFL changes rules all the time, yet it is the most popular sport in this country. I think that is a flawed game from the git go. Holding rules are ridiculous, pass interference, you can hit him here, but not here. Endless, and don't get me started on basketball. Baseball is close to the only pure game, but it is not the only game we enjoy. NASCAR has found a way to grow incredibly. They should be applauded. It is clean, no drug addicts (well very few). No gangsters, no murderers, no real criminals. No offensive jerks unless your last name is Busch . . . Heck I even like those two guys, they bring flavor. If you don't like it, turn it off.

With that said, "Free Denny!!!" :facepalm:

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Was watching NASCAR Now and they were talking about Denny, of course. They showed some interviews about the Denny issue. No one really got behind Denny except Burton, at least not from the interviews they broadcasted. But, he too played both sides of the fence. One driver even said that he, not Denny, knew which sandbox he played in. Almost had the feel of throwing Denny under the bus. Even Boyer was politcaly correct stating, it's going to take time to work out the bugs of the Gen 6 car. No doubt, but, I've never known him not to speak his mind. He does drive for MWR now and Mikey and Darrel have their heads so far up............ IMO. So, Clint really had no choice. Anyway.......

They also showed Denny spinning during practice. The show blamed that on Denny wasn't concentrating on the task at hand but was still thinking about the issue of his fine........ I thought that was a stretch.......

Will be interesting to see how the interviews go after today's race. Some guys it will make no difference, others, well, we'll see.....

 

[QC]

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I think all of the drivers should've stood up and said "enough is enough". With that said, I understand holding a hard line. "Our deal, you play along or here's the door." The Drivers meeting may be interesting this AM. If I was Denny, I'd stand up in there and say "you all suck." Easy to talk big sitting here on my couch :facepalm:

 

[bonz_d]

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Wow. A lot of contradictions here.

Same guy doesn't like the chase, but also doesn't like playing safe all season to win a championship. Then I read here that green white checkers sucks, but same guy wants them to race for all they got on the last lap. No cautions with 10 to go? WTH? No caution with one to go almost got Danica killed last year at Phoenix and that was NOT her fault.

. If you don't like it, turn it off.

With that said, "Free Denny!!!" :facepalm:

Must of pppsssst off a Jimmy Johnson fan.

 

[catfish58]

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If I understand it correctly,the Lucky Dog was added to stop the racing to the caution flag.

 

[82rude]

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Must of pppsssst off a Jimmy Johnson fan.

lol.yup .if you dont like it turn it off!if to many people do that QC nascar will die a slow death.your correct nascar is a bussiness and as such i dont think they would of liked to of had a full fleged munity on their hands and they would of recinded the fine if all the drivers had said"" no recind no drive".i know the sponsors wouldnt like to see bad things happen ,more would bail .you cant please everybody but at the same time you cant tell the guys its ok to be more colorful then fine them in the next breath.expecially in this case where i dont think it was deserved atall.its not like he called out a reporter or anything. that would be busch league.

 

[GA_Boater]

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As for drivers not backing Hamlin, I wonder if the powers to be quietly told owners/drivers to hush up or face consequences? I gave up trying to figure out how Bowyer escaped any sanction after running from the pits to Gordon's hauler with the intention to cause bodily harm. Maybe it was just good press?

 

[MTboatguy]

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It is funny, I have been hearing Nascar is dying a slow death, since I started watching it back in the early 70's, it is still here and it is still one of the largest watched sports in the world.

 

[QC]

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Must of pppsssst off a Jimmy Johnson fan.

Are you a JJ fan if you throw a fist pump when he finds the wall?

If I understand it correctly,the Lucky Dog was added to stop the racing to the caution flag.

I'd say more correctly to "compensate for not racing back to the flag." Getting laps back is good for fans, which in turn is good for Sponsors.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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As for drivers not backing Hamlin, I wonder if the powers to be quietly told owners/drivers to hush up or face consequences? I gave up trying to figure out how Bowyer escaped any sanction after running from the pits to Gordon's hauler with the intention to cause bodily harm. Maybe it was just good press?

Maybe that's part of the "boys have it"..... Speaking of which, you don't see that play out much on the track. With the exception of the first year or so when they first implemented that mentality. At least not with the bigger teams. I think it's because of the fact every point is very critical. Case in point, the Chase 2 years ago. Owners/sponsors have told there drivers to play nice. They don't want a wrecked car and a DNF. There's always exceptions. Especially when a drivers emotions take over, no matter who they are.....

 

[QC]

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I gave up trying to figure out how Bowyer escaped any sanction after running from the pits to Gordon's hauler with the intention to cause bodily harm.

That's it right there. He didn't actually hit anybody...

 

[GA_Boater]

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That's it right there. He didn't actually hit anybody...

Only because security grabbed him.

EDIT - It was a great 5 Hour Energy moment.

 

[bassman284]

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As for drivers not backing Hamlin, I wonder if the powers to be quietly told owners/drivers to hush up or face consequences? I gave up trying to figure out how Bowyer escaped any sanction after running from the pits to Gordon's hauler with the intention to cause bodily harm. Maybe it was just good press?

The stupidest part of it is that if NASCAR powers had had the good sense to ignore him, almost everyone would have forgotten Hamlin's comments shortly after he made them. Now they'll news for weeks to come. Seems that NASCAR figures that when stupid happens, more stupid will fix it.

 

[MTboatguy]

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Hmmmm..

NASCAR - Ignore! Does not compute

That is a oxymoron.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Not trying to keep beating the horse.......:deadhorse:

Drivers React to Hamlin Fine - MotorRacingNetwork.com

 

[bassman284]

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Hmmmm..

NASCAR - Ignore! Does not compute

That is a oxymoron.

Yeah. NASCAR "good sense" doesn't compute well either.