Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

Starcraftguy1

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I am slowly turning into a saltwater fanatic.I lived in Arizona for the last 28 years,hit San Diego for tuna a lot,so,all my stuff is big.I got into flounder last weekend,got all that stuff.But now,it's time for stripers,in October anyway.Time to get ready.What rod and reel combos do you guys use.They say mine are too big.I have no idea.Thanks.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

Are we talking big spinning rods and reels,I got them.What is a big baitcaster that you throw lures with in the ocean?Is there such a thing?I think that I am just trying to find an excuse to buy another rig,lol.If they troll for them,which is one of the ways that I heard the guys talking,and jigging big jigs,well,in them two areas I am covered.Yea,I think that I will just buy some new lures,thanks.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

You will get better responses from stripersonline(dot)com and stripers247, east coast striper fishing sites that have tons of info.

If you're proficient with your conventional reels then why not use them, its a east coast/west coast thing with spinning and conventional reels. East coast you gotta have a spinner, west coast you gotta have a conventional. What smaller conventional reels do you have, Penn 525, Daiwa SL20SH, Avet SX (magged), Abu 6500?
 

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East coast you gotta have a spinner, west coast you gotta have a conventional.

Your assumption about spinners and the East is a bit off the mark. Spinner vs Conventional is a North South thing based on the peferred method in the area.

Plugging is very popular method of catching stripers in the NE (Jersey to Mass) and thus the reel of choice is the spinning reel.

Bait fishing is primarily practiced from the Delaware Bay on south. The reel of choice for the bait fishermen is the Conventional.

I Keep one spinner on the truck to cast spoons to Spanish Mackeral when they get within casting distance. Otherwise, 7500C3CT, 7500CT3, 6500 Mag Elite, 6500 Chrome Rocket x 2, 7000C3 x 2 and a Penn 525 Mag. ;)


Can?t recommend tackle without knowing your preferred method and where your fishing. Also need a budget price. Good plugging combo get very expensive as do good trolling setups.
 

fishrdan

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

Mmmm yeah, guess I mis-stated that. East coast it's accepted to use spinners for big fish, but not on the west coast. I'm not saying spinning gear doesn't work for big fish, just that there's a perception on the west coast that conventional gear is better.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

just that there's a perception on the west coast that conventional gear is better.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Not always, I like my spinners. My buds use both, spinners and conventional gear and we are all doing fine. I hear those Atlantic stripers get pretty big so prepare yourself with some hefty gear, it's not like playing with trout..:D

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

I've got some big saltwater spinning rods,Diawas,DF100 with 30lb.and a BG 60 with 20 lb. I'm good there,have caught albacore with them.i got a Shimano TLD 15 today on ebay,so thanks guys,I tell you if they break,lol.I hope so.Good luck.I don't know anything about catching stripers in the ocean,but it sounds like a blast to learn.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

I do a lot of fishing charters for stripers and my basic setup is a 7' medium action BWS Ugly Stik Tiger 20 - 50 lb.test line cost about $75.00 with a 850 black & gold penn spinning reel cost over 100 bucks. If you like playing your fish this is a great setup. Have no problem taking fish like this over 30 pounds. Click on picture for larger view.
 

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Not always, I like my spinners. My buds use both, spinners and conventional gear and we are all doing fine. I hear those Atlantic stripers get pretty big so prepare yourself with some hefty gear, it's not like playing with trout..:D

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Stripers whoosies. People tend to fish way to heavy of tackle for them.

I surf fish for them using an Alstar 1418 (11'-6") surf rod, #14 mono and an Abu 6500 reel. From a boat it's a very common practice in our area to jig them with #10-14 braid and med-heavy bass fishing tackle using large (6"-12") stick type baits like Bass Assassin.

When fishing around bridge piles and rock piles like are found down at the CBBT (http://www.cbbt.com/) it's common to bump up to #20 braid for that little extra should you need it in a hurry.

When you get here plan a late December pilgrimage to the CBBT at the mouth of the Chesapeake in Virginia. Not far from Jersey at all. The CBBT is the few places that you'll find Stripers, Bluefish and Red Drum all at the same time.

They're arrivial at the CBBT coincides with the yearly mass exodus of the bait leaving the Chesapeake to winter over in the warmer waters of the Atlantic. The fishing there is second to none when it is on. Its the hands on favorite location to catch the next world record Striped Bass.
 

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Stripers whoosies. #14 mono and an Abu 6500 reel.

Hummmmmmm, I'd sure like to hear about a #50 Striper caught with that line, sounds like it could be exciting. I don't want this to turn into a West coast East coast duel, but maybe the Stripers on the West Coast are Meaner?...Muhahahahaaaaaaaa...:rolleyes: J/K
 

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Hummmmmmm, I'd sure like to hear about a #50 Striper caught with that line, sounds like it could be exciting. I don't want this to turn into a West coast East coast duel, but maybe the Stripers on the West Coast are Meaner?...Muhahahahaaaaaaaa...:rolleyes: J/K

Humm.. I know 5 of them over 50" that where caught on #20 braid or less. Quite popular to fish them using fly rods as well. A 10 or 12 weight rod is the weapon of choice when the big guys are around.

As I said, people tend to fish way too heavy for these fish. They have no stamina at all. I;ve never scene one run off more than maybe 25-30 yds of line, tops. A reel capable of holding 100-120 yds. of #20 braid and a decent drag is all you need.

Note the size of the tackle they are using.

http://web.mac.com/dianne.miller/lighttacklechesapeake/Chesapeake_Light_Tackle.html
 

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I know 5 of them over 50" that where caught on #20 braid or less. http://web.mac.com/dianne.miller/lighttacklechesapeake/Chesapeake_Light_Tackle.html

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting you, I am going on personal experience.
I use no less than #20 test, I have listen to my line sing in the wind when one of those big girls want to run and jump. I would probably have a heart-attack while using #14 or less test....:D

Great site to look at, thanks.

Fish
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

Fishing heavy or light is the persons fishing choice. Some like to play their fish while others like me want to haul them in asap. When fishing for pleasure I use #30 lb. test line. When commercial fishing I use #50 lb. test line to haul them cows in.

My biggest fish on the fly rod is 44 lbs. and I use a ten weight fly rod with a #40 lb. leader. Our shore line is very rocky and #20 lb test will not work most of the time amongest the rocks.

The lighter the line the more stress on the fish and mortality is greater.

Be carefull around the Delaware, Maryland area handling the fish if they have redish rash or sores. People have been known to contract a disease from stripers which infects the brain. If you know of anyone with memory loss they may want to see a doctor and make sure that the person mentions that they have handled a lot of striped bass.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

i do a good amount of striper fishing in nj...rartian bay to barnegat...for spinning outfits i use shimano 4000 with 20-30lb power pro braided line and a 30-40lb mono leader.... conventional i use calcutta 400 with 30lb power pro and the same leader...also use abu 6500's....rods 6-7' medium heavy...i like a fairly stiff rod...early season bass fishin is usually clamming and bait fishing then the bait moves in and live lining comes into play....during the fall lots of trolling and plugging/jigging....these rod combos are what i use while boat fishing...off the beach(when i used to surf fish alot) i used penn 5500 or 4500 spooled with 20-30lb power pro...7-9' rod (of your choice, must be stiff enough to throw heavy plugs and some heavy lead up to 6-7 oz to hold bottom while bait fishing...
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

the bass i catch in the early spring range from 25in to 30lbs...may-june most fish go over 20 have caught them to 40lbs (this is while livelining)...in the fall the fish seem to be mostly smaller 25-33 inches...
 

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Be carefull around the Delaware, Maryland area handling the fish if they have redish rash or sores. People have been known to contract a disease from stripers which infects the brain. If you know of anyone with memory loss they may want to see a doctor and make sure that the person mentions that they have handled a lot of striped bass.

There is a bit of misinformation being passed alone here that needs to be clarified.

The neurological symptoms mentioned above are caused by being in close contact to toxins produced by Pfiesteria piscicida. Pfsiesteria affects all species of fish, not just Striped Bass. You can not be affected by its toxins by merely handling a fish.


Pfiesteria piscicida is a microscopic estuarine dinoflagellate protozoan. Scientists are actively studying the organism and there is still much that we do not know about it. We do know that Pfiesteria piscicida and possibly other related, but unnamed, organisms (referred to as "Pfiesteria-like") have caused large fish kills in a number of nutrient enriched tributaries of Chesapeake Bay in Maryland and coastal estuaries in North Carolina.

Laboratory research with this organism indicates that it can exist in as many as 24 different life stages. Like many other dinoflagellate (free swimming) microorganisms, Pfiesteria piscicida can survive for long periods in sediments in a cyst or spore form. Under certain conditions, Pfiesteria piscicida experiences a large population increase, or "bloom". During a bloom, in the presence of large concentrations of fish in calm, shallow waters, this organism can change into a free-swimming form that produces a toxin that causes deep, ulcerative lesions in fish and can kill large numbers of fish.

The free swimming form of Pfiesteria piscicida which produces the toxin only exists for a very short period of time during the fish kill. In its other more common forms, Pfiesteria piscicida may spend its entire life feeding harmlessly on bacteria and algae. While it is currently not well understood what environmental factors induce Pfiesteria piscicida to change into its toxic form, it has been shown in the laboratory that blooms of the free swimming toxic form are induced by nutrient enrichment and the presence of large amounts of fresh fish excreta.

The exact chemistry and biology of the toxin is unknown; however, it is known that Pfiesteria piscicida itself is not an infectious agent; it does not spread from fish to fish or from fish to humans. The toxin is very short-lived in water. In fact, samples must be taken during an active kill or lesion event in order for Pfiesteria piscicida to be identified.

http://www.mde.state.md.us/assets/document/factsheets/pfiesteria.pdf
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

I have had a red rash,and some severe momory loss,lately.lol.But still have not caught a striped bass in the Atlantic yet,maybe it is a good omen.I hope so.I got some good information here,thanks.keep going.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

Not sure when you posted this. Go to your local tackle shop . He'll set you up.. He wants you to catch and he wont give you bad advice plus he'll tell you where you should wet your line. The Local tackle shop knows what you need for your area. Good luck.


Regards;


Chris
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

^^^ that's good advice right there.

Find a real mom-n-pop tackle shop, not a BPS, Cabelas or any of those big box sporting good stores. An extra $20 or 30 could get you some priceless information.
 

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Re: Need a Striper Combo For Atlantic in New Jersey ???

Great advice.I went to a bait store called Dolfin Dock,in Somers Point, New Jersey.He showed me everything that I needed to know.I bought my combo there,he said to wait until October now for the Stripers.So,I broke the rod in on some flounder,even caught a couple of keepers.A great trip,thanks all.Very informative here.
 
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