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m casey stock

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aa i may have said before i was not happy with the finish on the hull as there were some patches where dampness got into the epoxy overnight that looked a bit cloudy, the fiberglass was easy enough to remove with a heat gun but the resin that was left behind was a real pain to sand down but 50 sanding discs later it's done :) i hope i don't have to do this again so next time i'm going to go with 207 west system special hardener.





i'm also going to give peel ply a go on the transom first this will protect it from any dirt or dampness in the air and when removed should leave a smooth finish ready for varnish, if it works out i will do the whole boat with it if not i'll take it off and sand it back down :eek:





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Sean-Nos

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3 coats of epoxy and a bit of an idea how it will turn, I'm not happy how it's reacting with the caulking it doesn't seem to want to stick to it so I might have to sand it back down and remove it and try a different one, I should have done a test before hand but as it was sikaflex I thought it would be fine I'm also using 207 special hardener for the first time so that might also have something to do with it :mad: I'll see how it looks when it set and try and come up with a plan, all in all I'm happy with the look of it except for the bloody flies that keep sticking to it.

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Fiberglassing round two lets hope this one comes out ok I'm using 4 oz cloth stopping just short of the deck were the rub rail is going.
The right side has it' first coat on for a few hours and this is when I trim the cloth and remove the tape before the next coat of epoxy.



Both sides done and the place is a bit of a mess, no time to stop while epoxying. The next coat is to fill the weave and I'm putting this on good and thick as I will be laying peel ply over it.



I used a squeegee to put another coat over the peel ply forcing it in till it's gone clear and moving any bubbles out to the edge. I finished up at about 11 last night and it started raining this morning so I just hope it had enough time to cure before any dampness got in and the peel ply is doing it's job only time will tell. As I'm using a slow hardener the deck was still a bit soft to sand so I'll leave it a bit longer before I get to work on it.


 

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Look great sorry to hear about the caulking issues. Hopefully you can resolve those without having to sand it down.
 

GT1000000

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Looking real nice, Sean...
Sorry to hear about the issues you are having.
I have a question about the caulking...
I know its already too late, but to prevent the issue you are having with the epoxy not adhering to it, would it be better to apply the caulking after coating everything with epoxy...?

And another question about the epoxy itself...does the orange peel get sanded/polished out after it is completely cured?
 

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What UV Varnish are you going to use? Sikkens? Epiphanes? Man-O-War? Just Curious!!!;) R U aware of the heat gun technique for getting rid of the bubbles in Epoxy and Varnish?
 

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Thanks guys. I wanted the deck to feel flat and smooth and not to be able to feel the caulking, the orange peel is because I put on a very heavy coat as I was going to lay peel ply over it and this would have levelled it out, it was only when the deck was done that I noticed the epoxy pooling on the caulking and I thought if I used the peel ply when I go to pull it off it would lift the resin off the caulking making a bit of a mess so I just left it :facepalm:

Yea I knew about the heat gun trick thanks I just didn't want to spend any more time on it as I had a feeling it would be getting sanded down again to a point and I will be using the peel ply so there shouldn't be any problems, I have also found out that you can get a primer pen that you put on the caulking so the epoxy will stick but I have to look into it a bit more.
I'm going to use interlux schooner gold varnish :)
 

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Alrighty Then!! That's some Really good stuff! I'll be looking forward to hear your critique of it and how it applies and it's durability etc. From my brief research it sounds like it should be a very nice product, easier/faster to apply and really High Gloss. Hope it all works well for you.
 

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Carp, I go on vacation & all this ^^^ happens. Looks GREAT! Awesome. Truly awesome...

Wish I could help out by going on vacation more often & staying gone longer :watermelon:

Excellent work. Hope you don't have any problems w/ the caulking........
 

Last Mohican

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You are a very patient craftsman. If I had to remove all the glass and re sand a project I had that much time in I probably would have bought a keg and invited my friends over for a cracker box bon fire. Excellent work. I need to go back and read your other build thread.
 

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Last coat of varnish at last :D I'll leave this set for a week or two before I fine sand and polish.



When the buffing is done you should be able to see the tin a lot clearer.







I wasn't too keen on the red and white steering wheel so I treated the boat to a mahogany half wrap aluminium one that I think will suit her, I didn't budget for this so I had to sell my seagull outboard to pay for it :D


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WOW!!!! Now That's a Steering Wheel!!!! Nice job on the Varnish as usual!!!
 

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Yeah, nice wheel & nice varnish work don't even come close to being accurate......

I'd be proud just to be photographed standing next to it. You'll need botox to relax the grin off your face when you get behind THAT wheel & back away from the ramp/dock in THAT boat.

Awesome still doesn't do your work justice.
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Truly awe inspiring
 

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That wheel is the perfect compliment to this beautiful boat, even if you had to sell some stuff to finance it...
And the shine you are going to achieve when you final buff and polish may be considered illegal when space craft begin to see it as a landing beacon...:eek:...
Absolutely Amazing!:D
 

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Sean, I have been researching building one of these...looks like you have a thread on it everywhere! Thanks for sharing, the finish is beautiful....I'm looking forward to tinkering with one in a few years. The white steering wheel had to go by the way.....you wouldn't believe how much grief I got over Miss Morgans steering wheel on here, lol....I think these guys have a steering wheel fetish or something!
 

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Cheers guy's :) Yep I do like to put her around a bit :D If I can build a boat like this with only basic DIY skills then anyone can so I try to get others involved in boatbuilding and help out where I can the same way others have helped me "live and learn, learn and live"

archbuilder if you are going to build one start looking for windshield brackets now they can be a pain to find at the right price :D
 

RufNutt

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Wow I just found this thread and am really impressed with this boat. I actually looked at your pictures on photobucket through google a couple weeks ago , never knew you had a thread here. I have to go through and read this thread Me and my better half have been discussing a good project for me next winter. Right now I am restoring a bowrider for the family at the lake, but we want a boat for just me and her for our cruises. This is exactly what we want. Lot's of great info hear and glad to see different projects being talked about. Mighty Fine job . I know you will enjoy it when it hit's the water. These are head turners and have lot's of character. Cheers and Enjoy it

After going through the thread I have noticed you done some top notch work on everything. I been thinking about doing the tip and brush method on the bottom of my bowrider. I am expecting a repair now and again and figure I can fix it without flipping it ever again.

What brand of paint is the red and how many coats did you put on?
 
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archbuilder

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Sean, are the brackets cast or stainless / aluminum machined parts? I hadn't thought about that or looked at it at all. One of my friends restores steam powered cars and those built before the 30s'. He can probably fab them if I can't find them....last time I was in his shop he had a 350# block of steel machining it into a Model T rear end pumpkin.....he didn't like Henry Fords design lol....always room for improvement I guess :D I would also say your skills are way above DIY. I'm also very impressed at what have accomplished without a "shop". Nice work you should be proud!
 

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The red paint is toplac by international and I gave it 3 coats it's not an under water paint but at most my boat would only be on the water for a weekend and it seems to have worked fine on my other build so I stuck with it.

On the other boat the brackets are chrome over bronze.



And on this one they are cast aluminium I did think of making a copy of these but the heat needed is a bit much for a back garden DIY job. I got these cheep "under $100" after loosing out on about 20 sets sometimes they go for silly.


 
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