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vipertech

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Hello, I just picked up my first boat and getting ready to start restoring it. I have been doing as much research as possible
But because of the age of the boat i cant find too much info and was hoping some of you can help out. Heres what I know sofar. Its a 1977 Lund aluminum 20' inboard/outboard with a omc 175hp 302 and a omc sterndrive. I know parts are probably hard to locate for this but what are pro's con's of this setup.
 

Bondo

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Ayuh,.... Sounds like a nice boat, except for the driveline...

OMC is Outa business, 'n Ford is outa the Marine business...

Motor parts are out there, but more expensive than Chevy stuff...

The Stringer drive has a few parts still available...
 

greenbush future

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Lund boats are very well built, I am so sad I sold my 95 Tyee. I will bet everyone wants to see pictures of your new project. Without pictures, it just isnt the same. OMC power isnt the best, does it run, drive? What year....pictures please.
 

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Pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lunds are built like tanks!!
 

vipertech

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Thanks for the responses. I will get some pics up later on when I get home. It fires up and sounds good. The drive goes into gear forward and reverse. Makes a thump
Sound when it does though. Have not had it on water yet want to service the motor and drive, wrap a couple seats and paint the exterior first before I take it out then was planning a full restore come winter
 

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TThe drive goes into gear forward and reverse. Makes a thump
Sound when it does though.

Yup, that's a good sign.
They should clunk into gear, that's the dogs engaging. Never shift it slow so it grinds. Firm and deliberate is the way to go.

Make sure the big gasket on the transom is in good shape before you put in the water, or you will be sunk, literally.
The best thing is to take it to a NON busy launch, put in the plug and back it into the water leaving it attached to the trailer. Then you can run it for awhile and see if everything is ship-shape. If so, pull out the trailer and do the same thing again letting it sit at the dock, run it and check the gear shift operation. If that all checks out then take it for a quick spin, but be ready to return to the dock if there is a problem. Also I don't like to shut the engine off on the first trip out until i'm tied to the dock again. That's probably just me.
I usually do a couple of test runs like that, and check for water and other problems before I go out to far out.

Don'y forget your PDF.

Best of luck.
 

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Yup, that's a good sign.
They should clunk into gear, that's the dogs engaging. Never shift it slow so it grinds. Firm and deliberate is the way to go.

Make sure the big gasket on the transom is in good shape before you put in the water, or you will be sunk, literally.
The best thing is to take it to a NON busy launch, put in the plug and back it into the water leaving it attached to the trailer. Then you can run it for awhile and see if everything is ship-shape. If so, pull out the trailer and do the same thing again letting it sit at the dock, run it and check the gear shift operation. If that all checks out then take it for a quick spin, but be ready to return to the dock if there is a problem. Also I don't like to shut the engine off on the first trip out until i'm tied to the dock again. That's probably just me.
I usually do a couple of test runs like that, and check for water and other problems before I go out to far out.

Don'y forget your PDF.

Best of luck.

Ayuh,.... Maybe a PFD, insteada a PDF...
 

vipertech

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Re: new to everything

Yup, that's a good sign.
They should clunk into gear, that's the dogs engaging. Never shift it slow so it grinds. Firm and deliberate is the way to go.

Make sure the big gasket on the transom is in good shape before you put in the water, or you will be sunk, literally.
The best thing is to take it to a NON busy launch, put in the plug and back it into the water leaving it attached to the trailer. Then you can run it for awhile and see if everything is ship-shape. If so, pull out the trailer and do the same thing again letting it sit at the dock, run it and check the gear shift operation. If that all checks out then take it for a quick spin, but be ready to return to the dock if there is a problem. Also I don't like to shut the engine off on the first trip out until i'm tied to the dock again. That's probably just me.
I usually do a couple of test runs like that, and check for water and other problems before I go out to far out.

Don'y forget your PDF.

Best of luck.

Thank you for that info. I was planning on going out during a weekday for the first test but now I will do the above and feel a little better about doing it.
 

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vipertech

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It's a little embarrasing to show the pics but I can see past the cosmetics. There are no dents/holes in the hull but some minor scratches and fugly paint. I would like to get some paint and interior work along with replacing all the oil, water pump in the drive and whatever else I need to get it out on the lake for the summer as stated above. Then come fall I am going to rip up the floor and redo the whole boat for next summer.
 

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Let me know if there is any more info or pics needed to help identify this model or possible problems or issues.
 

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Its a nice strong looking craft, there are huge differences in design and build between USA made and Aussie made alloy boats, engine looks like a Ford Windsor V8 no probs with parts there, manifolds and risers are still around plus theres aftermarket now, the drive itself Id throw away, my preferance would be a Mercruiser leg, remembering companys like Mercruiser used a multitude of different engine makes, guessing its no race boat, what exactly you plan to use it for you havent gone into, boats are a bottomless pit for money just depends on how far you want to go, the upholstery is easy, unpainted alloy boats seem popular over there, in the main there painted here, if it was my boat Id gut it to bare bones and start with the hull, paint or polish? check every weld and rivet, are the floors timber? are they rotted? do you want to keep the V8? looking at the transom if it was mine Id turf the 8 and the leg, rebuild the transom to take an outboard, turn that engine bay into a live bait tank or beer cooler!, the sky is the limit mate.
 

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Its a nice strong looking craft, there are huge differences in design and build between USA made and Aussie made alloy boats, engine looks like a Ford Windsor V8 no probs with parts there, manifolds and risers are still around plus theres aftermarket now, the drive itself Id throw away, my preferance would be a Mercruiser leg, remembering companys like Mercruiser used a multitude of different engine makes, guessing its no race boat, what exactly you plan to use it for you havent gone into, boats are a bottomless pit for money just depends on how far you want to go, the upholstery is easy, unpainted alloy boats seem popular over there, in the main there painted here, if it was my boat Id gut it to bare bones and start with the hull, paint or polish? check every weld and rivet, are the floors timber? are they rotted? do you want to keep the V8? looking at the transom if it was mine Id turf the 8 and the leg, rebuild the transom to take an outboard, turn that engine bay into a live bait tank or beer cooler!, the sky is the limit mate.

I am planning on using it for the family to get out an about. The kids are excited to go tubing and I would like to learn how to ski. I will probably ditch the drive when it ends up costing too much but would like to use it if it works. The upholstry I plan on recovering myself since it's a solid color and then buying new seats for the middle. I know boats cost alot but I plan on doing most if not all the work myself as I learn and besides it couldnt cost more than my money pit project cars im ditching for this. I would like the extra room to a livewell or cooler but the "cover" over the motor makes a cool hang out and possible fishing seat area.
 

greenbush future

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Man you found a nice boat, I never knew they even offered OMC drives on Lunds, mine had an outboard. With a V8 power plant that thing should do more than well, hope it's in running order. You will find Lund to hold the value well above other like boats. With cosmetic stuff, you do have some value. Biggest question is that power plant. Switching could be costly, repares will be the same. Welcome to the Lund club!
 

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I saw a good what was said to be a good,running and complete 5.7liter Mercruier on Clist awile back that would be awesome in a boat like that,..


Maybe I should be buying stuff when I see it encase I find a reason to use it,..............Hmmm,.....
 

vipertech

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I did not realize that this omc was that bad. I thought the 302 would be nice because I have worked on the auto engines alot and performance upgrades would be plentyfull. I think i will keep an eye out for newer model outdrives but how do I know what will work with the 302 as thats staying
 

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I did not realize that this omc was that bad. I thought the 302 would be nice because I have worked on the auto engines alot and performance upgrades would be plentyfull. I think i will keep an eye out for newer model outdrives but how do I know what will work with the 302 as thats staying

Ayuh,.... Generally speakin',... That's really Not an option...

Even if ya up-date the drive, Most of yer motor will be unusable with a different drive...
 

vipertech

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Other than parts being harder to get as time goes on are these a bad drive? Is there anything else I should do to it before I take it out on a test run. I noticed the ball drives have wear on them. How much wear should you have before you start to worry about replacing them. I am new to boating including terms and what to look for other than the motor. As stated above most of the work I can do my self I will. I am a ASE master tech so wrenching is what I know just on a crash course to my new love.
 
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