NO MOVE GIMBLE BEARING (pic)

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

I Have used the OEM axle bearing puller. Made a great set up. Put tens of thousands of PSI on the tool. Tool broke. I had so much pressure on the tool that the hard dowel pin that holds the foot of the puller, sheared through the end of the puller shaft. Lot's of pressure to do that. Bearing did not budge one bit.

Is that a J.B. Weld repair in the picture? Around 3 to 9 O'clock. Could this stuff be what is causing my problem? I just can't believe with the amount of pressure I have applied (enough to snap a professional tool) that this suff could retain the bearing.

Don or Bondo, Please help! Thanks.

Johnny

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Anyone?

 

[frank246]

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Nope, we`re not Don or Bondo
Good luck!

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Sorry I hurt your feelings Frank. You must have the solution though? Right?

 

[bruceb58]

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Is it just me or does it look like there is a snap ring holding that in?

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Bruce,

I know what a snap ring is and looks like. But here, I see no evidence of a snap ring.

 

[bruceb58]

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What is this(The arrow is pointing at)?

Hard to tell from the picture.

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Also, I tried to drill out the aluminum. But there must be some harder material beneath the aluminum. Because I am unable to drill any further than shown in the picture.

I am thinking of renting the slide hammer from autozone.
But if all the pressure from the bearing puller did not work.......

There is something to be said about impact though. Maybe the slide hammer in this case is better. My experience says otherwise. But you never know unless you try.

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Bruce,

First off gald you are interested!

Nah, thats just the inner ring of the drive shaft bellows. That is nowhere near the outer race of the bearing. No impact at all.

But look at 3 to 9 O'clock. Looks like J.B. Weld to me? No?

 

[bruceb58]

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Hard to tell.

I would be squirting some Kroil or other penetrating liquid in there. Looks pretty corroded.

 

[FishHog]

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I had to use a slide hammer on mine. Came out very easy with it. Worth a try. But if that is JB Weld, might make it hard. Why would anyone JB weld that though?

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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I know what your saying Bruce.

But, Kroil and PB and such will soften the rubber bellows and could compromise them. I am trying to salvage my summer boating season and not have to remove the gimble and all the boots. The transom plug was left in after a winter rain and hence the corrosion. I got the engine tuned to perfection this year only to hear this damn gimble bearing rattleing away.

Got to get it out without removing everything. Or so I pray.

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Fishhog,

The PO did some pretty stupid things to this drivetrain. I have undone all his engine work. Now it seems I must do the same to the outdrive.

Maybe they snapped off some of the metal and repaired it with JB.

I have seen other posts on here where guys have done something like this to their gimble bearing areas.

 

[bruceb58]

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How old are the bellows? Maybe they should be replaced anyway?

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Believe me, I always try to do what is right when it comes to maintenence.

But the boots are fairly new and they are firm with zero cracks. The PO had a Sterndrive Eng. replacement drive put on end of last season.

Just want my wife off my tail and on her skis! LOL

 

[Doernuth]

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If it is JB you could grind it out with a dremel or die grinder to thin it out enough to pull that bearing with a slide hammer. Pounding on it now could cause even more damage especially if it is glued in with JB.

Just a thought....

 

[TiredoleBoy]

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If you put a probe in the groove area or a feeler gauge and scrape it lightly what happens? Do get rust or something else on the probe?

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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I have been thinking about the dremel route. I don't think they placed JB in the bearing bore. Just around the outside in the 3 to 9 O'clock area outside the outer race of the bearing.

It looks like some of this JB is interfering with the "slide out" of the bearing. In other words: The JB is catching on the outer aluminum race of the bearing preventing the bearing to be removed.

I just can't believe that JB (when used in this manner)
is strong enough to hold the amount of force that I have applied. I also know that there is aluminum and steel corrosion at play here.

Maybe it's a perfect storm? Aluminum, Steel corrosion and JB all working Vs. me?

One tough situation.

 

[stonyloam]

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If that is JB Weld, I think it is time to forget trying to save the bellows, and pull the bellhousing and get in there and clean as much of it out as you can. You probably have to expose the whole outer bearing to have a chance with the puller. You could try heat, but if JB you need to get close to 600 F. You might have luck with a BIG slide hammer, but you still have to remove as much stuff as you can. Good luck.

 

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

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Tiredoleboy,

Define the groove area? Are you suggesting corrosion is stopping the slide?

I have seen this before on Surface Grinder spindles. But those had a .0005 (half thousand) slip fit. And when we have changed them, all the crud from grinding had to removed or it would not budge.

Matbe the same deal here?