NYT: "The Road Home"

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After reading the article,I can only say that it describes perfectly well what your favorite president has created.
Next time you vote for a commander in chief,make sure that he was neither drunk,high on cocaine or just totally absent while doing his military service.
 

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I guess you will be writting off Hillary as your candidate of choice regardless of who she runs against in the primary's and the general election as long as anyone else has been in the Military in good standing.

BTW, did you vote for Slick Willy? The ol' hoover himself?
 

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After reading the article,I can only say that it describes perfectly well what your favorite president has created.
Next time you vote for a commander in chief,make sure that he was neither drunk,high on cocaine or just totally absent while doing his military service.
When you read the article did you see the contradictions? inane - Adj. noun. 1) Empty, insubstantial.
 

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Surrender. Submit to the UN. Give in to Syria and Iran. Did the author have any other points I missed?
 

rolmops

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I guess you will be writting off Hillary as your candidate of choice regardless of who she runs against in the primary's and the general election as long as anyone else has been in the Military in good standing.

BTW, did you vote for Slick Willy? The ol' hoover himself?

Yes I did vote for Willy.
Hillary would not be my favorite,I would like somebody with her skills,but at the same time, that somebody should be able to unite this nation,not divide it even more.
I wish for someone to stand up and make this nation whole again.
 

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I agree. One nation under God. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all!
 

OldMercsRule

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Yes I did vote for Willy.
Hillary would not be my favorite,I would like somebody with her skills,but at the same time, that somebody should be able to unite this nation,not divide it even more.
I wish for someone to stand up and make this nation whole again.

This to shall come: my friend. It is very likely from this perspective at this particular time that the Democrats will clobber the Republicans, only a major unknown event will change this, as the Democrats are getting all the money and generating all the excitement with various surrender strategies that the public now seems to luv. Now that the world's largest and most influential single city daily newspaper and the best known American Liberal mouth piece has thrown down the gauntlet it would appear we are going to repeat Veitnam 1975 and cut the throats of our allies, (last time the Commies killed 3,000,000 as a direct result of the exact same mindset, it just was never so clearly laid out for the world to see; [that's the amazing part here]). It must make OBL and his buddies real happy and I bet far more then 3,000,000 are goin' down this time. We shall see.

As pessimistic as that outlook may seem, there is a silver lining. IM not so HO. When an American city or two are eliminated for a few thousand years or ten years the American people will stand up and pay attention. The Liberals and Democrats will get crushed by honor, reason, logic, and the toughness down in the basement we all have as a free people, (even Liberals will wake up), as the public will finally reject the insanity of the looney always side with the enemy Left. That will mean that things will be done that are unspeakable but they will be done. NO PC stuff when we understand that our very survival is at stake and really unleash the dogs of war. Not gonna be pretty.

As Rolmops wants: we will then be one. 9/11 was just a warm up for what I'm predicting here.

My $.02 JR
 

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There will never be harmony in the US as long as socialism/communism is pitted against freedom and democracy. The class warefare for political gain seems to be the only game in town.

Rolmops, in his posts point out how some want it both ways. Life is a series of compromises, not contridictions. I have little hope for our future. We will end up with the ol' "I voted for it before I voted against it." Or "there was no terrorists in Iraq before the invasion, it is now full of Al-Quida".
 

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This to shall come: my friend. It is very likely from this perspective at this particular time that the Democrats will clobber the Republicans, only a major unknown event will change this, as the Democrats are getting all the money and generating all the excitement with various surrender strategies that the public now seems to luv. Now that the world's largest and most influential single city daily newspaper and the best known American Liberal mouth piece has thrown down the gauntlet it would appear we are going to repeat Veitnam 1975 and cut the throats of our allies, (last time the Commies killed 3,000,000 as a direct result of the exact same mindset, it just was never so clearly laid out for the world to see; [that's the amazing part here]). It must make OBL and his buddies real happy and I bet far more then 3,000,000 are goin' down this time. We shall see.

As pessimistic as that outlook may seem, there is a silver lining. IM not so HO. When an American city or two are eliminated for a few thousand years or ten years the American people will stand up and pay attention. The Liberals and Democrats will get crushed by honor, reason, logic, and the toughness down in the basement we all have as a free people, (even Liberals will wake up), as the public will finally reject the insanity of the looney always side with the enemy Left. That will mean that things will be done that are unspeakable but they will be done. NO PC stuff when we understand that our very survival is at stake and really unleash the dogs of war. Not gonna be pretty.

As Rolmops wants: we will then be one. 9/11 was just a warm up for what I'm predicting here.

My $.02 JR
The more Saracens smited the merrier, IMHO........
Since when are they allies, btw.....
When, (or if) they get it through their pea brains that they can actually be free, they will thumb their nose at us like the rest of 'em....
Obviously 9/11 was not enough to truly get the ball rolling & get down to the what really needs to be done & that is to boot every last Muslim out of the US.....
Of course this goes along with my belief that all religion should be outlawed...............
Islam should be banned in this country........
It would go a long way to securing our borders.....;)
 

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Quote Pointer94

There will never be harmony in the US as long as socialism/communism is pitted against freedom and democracy. The class warefare for political gain seems to be the only game in town.


And of course the unsaid inference of the above statement is that the quote ?socialist/communist? are Democrats, that do not goose step along with the dictates of the Bush Administration. Well you left out another ?ism,.I,ll leave it to your imagination to figure out what the following is the modus operandi of. Hint the last three letters are?ism?.


The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.?(A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute.)

Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause._( The methods of choice relentless propaganda and disinformation were usually effective. Often they would incite 'spontaneous' acts against the target scapegoats, usually socialists, liberals, ethnic and minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and 'terrorists.' Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists or terrorist sympathizers and dealt with accordingly.)

Obsession with national security?(Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting 'national security,' and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.)

Religion and ruling elite tied together_(In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion.)

Power of corporation?s protected_(The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control.)

. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated._(The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.)

Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts_(Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal.)

Rampant cronyism and corruption.-(Fear, and hatred, of criminals or 'traitors' was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.)


Fraudulent elections.-(Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.)

Does any of this ring alarm bells? Of course not. After all, this is America, officially a Democracy.
 

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The more Saracens smited the merrier, IMHO........

There will be lots of Saracen casualties me Bro, (as there have been fer the last 1500 years give or take), but lots on 'our' side too.

Since when are they allies, btw.....

Some are OUR allies Bro, not the same as Britian, Canada, Ausie/NZ, but usefull allies non the less. Don't ya wish we were still friends with Iran, (I sure do)?

When, (or if) they get it through their pea brains that they can actually be free, they will thumb their nose at us like the rest of 'em....

They need to take one more step, and reform Islam Bro, Islam and Freedom is like oil and water. Does not mix at all. The Libs blame George Bush for all of the ills of the planet, (but that is just VERY EFFECTIVE propaganda for the experts on homosexuality n' victimhood), designed to exploit this cornflict to gain political power fer Libs n' Dems at our leader's and our Country's expense). Islamists hated freedom well before GWB's Grandfather Prescott was born, well before Jamestown was established: me Bro. This is not new, just repackaged by the Dems to exploit and gain power. Real simple to those with at least one functional brain cell to understand.

Obviously 9/11 was not enough to truly get the ball rolling & get down to the what really needs to be done & that is to boot every last Muslim out of the US.....

Don't know about booting all Muslims: Bro, as that would tear our wonderfull system apart. That said: yer right 9/11 got Libs n' Dems attention fer five minutes or so before they started stabing us in the back and helpin' the enemy. Loosin' a city or two to Islamists will be harder to exploit fer Liberals n' Dems IMHO.

Of course this goes along with my belief that all religion should be outlawed...............
Islam should be banned in this country........

Can't do that and still have our wonderfull system: Bro. That said, we surely can and should restrict entry to the US in the future, n' keep an eye on the Muslims in our bowels.

It would go a long way to securing our borders.....;)

We need to totally secure our borders: we agree there Bro. JR
 

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Treedancer,does the ism you refer to have anything to do with a goose step?
 

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The ism is obviously fascism. I don't see the connection but understand that it is on the latest looney left talking memo right next to impeachment. Say it enough and maybe the drones will start to believe it..

As far as democrat socialism connection. I seem to remember Hillary saying she wanted to "take the big oil profits" and direct it into alternative energy research. since when are they "her" profits and what gives her the right to take them. Maybe she wants government control of these profits? OOh what does that sound like. It quacks, it waddles, yup it's a duck. Thats just one example. How about the ironically named "fairness dcotrine". If you can't beat em, just let gov't control it. Theres that duck again.. I could go on and on..
 

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The left wing Democrats in congress are socialist by definition. But to compare people that stand for personal freedom, liberty, and the right to defend and take care of yourself and your family to fascists and Nazis is irresponsible. It is also libel since it is totally opposite of Nazi ans Fascist beliefs.
 

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Come on tree, that's a retread from a while back, you can do better than that. Give us something fresher to similarly discredit :rolleyes:

BTW, I agree with all that consider comparisons of this Administration to Fascists as grossly incorrect and ridiculous. Comparisons to Nazis are simply sick and twisted :mad: Comparisons of US Democrats to Socialists are accurate, socially acceptable, and complete with modern examples that help confirm the comparison. Communist dictatorships? See my Nazi comments; for those comparisons I feel the same.
 

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Well now that I have read the article I see nothing new here. Nothing. It includes the same inaccuracies, half truths and lies that plague every Iraq War opinion piece I have seen or heard from the Left.

Also, it seems ludicrous to me that someone can type this:

"Americans must be clear that Iraq, and the region around it, could be even bloodier and more chaotic after Americans leave. There could be reprisals against those who worked with American forces, further ethnic cleansing, even genocide. Potentially destabilizing refugee flows could hit Jordan and Syria. Iran and Turkey could be tempted to make power grabs. Perhaps most important, the invasion has created a new stronghold from which terrorist activity could proliferate."
And conclude that we should pack up and split . . . :rolleyes:
 

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Cindy Sheehan to run against Pelrosi if she don't introduce impeachment against the President.:eek::eek:

Whoops, wrong thread, sorry.:D
 
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