Official 1st Trip, now need boat bodywork...

[QC]

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Wow!!

Everyone is ok...

Ultimately all that matters, but I have a question . . .

I head to the bridge no wake zone I saw this nice Chris Craft getting off the no wake zone... . . . I had shift to neutral to stop the motor thinking he saw us

Can you describe which direction you were coming at each other initially? I am not sure I agree that you were not underway. It sounds like you put it in neutral after you saw him coming, which I think would indicate that the rules of the road may indeed apply.

 

[QC]

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Initially, he was coming from your starboard side so doesn't that make him the stand-on boat and you the give-way boat?

Yeah, this is where I was headed, but where did you see their orientation to each other?

Edit: Yeah I see it now . . . Doh!!!

I am concerned now. He was out of the no wake zone right? And you appear to be the give way vessel (he was to your starboard side coming at you). Was he coming from behind at all? Perpendicular? Can you diagram this for us?

 

[tmh]

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Regardless of who is truly at fault, this tread is a sad reminder that we all need to know the rules of the road, so to speak. Heck, as I read this, I am reviewing in my mind all this "stand on" stuff - with the long winter i forget sometimes! I need a refresher course and will take it with my kids soon!

I'd expect others here also don't know for sure who has right of way in all situations. Review it for the safety of all.

Boats that don't come on plane in a reasonable time are dangerous! That same accident happens all the time. Usually, the boat that gets hit is just sitting there, not running and has no way to take evasive action. If under power, I'd never go to "neutral", always turn hard away from them and get out of there! Easy to say behind a computer terminal though, different situation with a boat coming at your family!

 

[QC]

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Easy to say behind a computer terminal though, different situation with a boat coming at your family!

Amen brother!!! And Nandy, don't take our speculation(s) as second guessing. Like you, we'd like to understand this better. Whatever the outcome, you ultimately kept your family safe. That's numero uno!!!

 

[ziggy]

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And you appear to be the give way vessel (he was to your starboard side coming at you). Was he coming from behind at all? Perpendicular? Can you diagram this for us?

yep, sorry, that's the way i'm seeing it. assuming your were in motion which is the way i understand it. 0-112.5* and your the give way vessel. only saving grace may be the very last rule of boating. and that would be ya must take all necessary action to avoid collision. including breaking the rules.. i'll also guess that if blame is to go around, one person will not have it all. don't know how it'll split up. but i'll bet that both partys may be held some accountable...

And Nandy, don't take our speculation(s) as second guessing. Like you, we'd like to understand this better. Whatever the outcome, you ultimately kept your family safe. That's numero uno!!

agreed..

 

[Gary H NC]

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Man! I hate to see that Nandy.....I'm so glad nobody was injured.
That is way more than 2k in fiberglass work.
You need to have a good talk with the driver of the other boat that he will make up the difference from what the insurance company will pay.
They are not going to offer nowhere near what it would cost to repair.

I hate to say it but i would be camped on that guys dock until the cops got there and filed a report.
He admitted he was at fault but his story could change quick after the insurance company gets a hold of him...

Good luck...keep us posted.

 

[Mischief Managed]

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yep, sorry, that's the way i'm seeing it. assuming your were in motion which is the way i understand it. 0-112.5* and your the give way vessel. only saving grace may be the very last rule of boating. and that would be ya must take all necessary action to avoid collision. including breaking the rules.. i'll also guess that if blame is to go around, one person will not have it all. don't know how it'll split up. but i'll bet that both partys may be held some accountable...

agreed..

I think he was pretty clear in stating that he had stopped and was actually backing up to avoid being hit. Not much more one can do to "give way" at that point.

 

[GatorMike]

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We've got this lawyer here that comes on the radio every now and then. "Have you been injured?".

Can you say whiplash?

 

[Nandy]

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I think he was pretty clear in stating that he had stopped and was actually backing up to avoid being hit. Not much more one can do to "give way" at that point.

Thanks MM, I thought my English got in the way again...

Yes, I am giveaway vessel, I knew that therefore the reason why I shift to neutral so he could pass in front of me with his initial course as we often do. I actually was bit over no wake speed as I was deciding if we were going for tha last spin of the day. The problem was when he decided to chance course bit too close, that put him in a colision course to me, then I shift to reverse but could not get our of his way quick.
I cant see how this was my fault as he said it, he never saw me even before he gun it... I do agree that he can change his version. He can say now how this guy was giving him the finger while heading towards him and he tried to avoid the collision but he couldn't... LOL...
I appreciate your guys concern and I have no problems about the question. Im not going to go over the story again as that is in the past and the other boater and I are in an agreement that he is responsible for the damages in my boat.

I will keep updating this thread with anything that is a fact:
The other boater agrees he is responsible for the damages.
First estimate is 1900+

I will let you all know anything else.

 

[Nandy]

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We've got this lawyer here that comes on the radio every now and then. "Have you been injured?".

Can you say whiplash?

LOL!!!! That was funny!!! The officer did told me to call me back if someone started feeling hurt as sometimes it would take over a day... He meant it, he told me that a couple of times...

 

[bhammer]

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LOL!!!! That was funny!!! The officer did told me to call me back if someone started feeling hurt as sometimes it would take over a day... He meant it, he told me that a couple of times...

In all seriousness, that does happen. If you get headaches or stiff muscles after a couple days, you need to go to the doctor. I was in a minor rear end accident (auto) where the person hit me at about 10MPH. Not much damage at all and I was even working with her to pay me directly for the damage. This was in the morning. The following night, I had a stiff upper back and neck, so much so that it was hard to look full left or right.

Long story short, went to the doc and he said that in many cases, it is several days before the results of an accident will show up on the body. I always thought the pain started to show up about the time the insurance company called.

 

[ondarvr]

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I tried to post earlier in your PM but it crashed my computer.


It can be fixed and that area doesn't get much stress except in this type of situation, so I woiuldn't worry about it failing if it was fixed correctly.

The cost may be high due to the hassle factor of getting to it and then lining it up again.

 

[skargo]

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Glad no one was hurt in this incident. Best of luck getting resolution for the repairs/replacement of your nice boat.

 

[Jeep Man]

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Guys, maybe we should hold off on the Monday morning quarterbacking. All we achieve is give Nandy more to worry about when he's got enough on his plate. Let's just be happy he and his family will be back on the water as soon as his ride let's him.
Nandy, so glad everybody on Both vessels are OK. Let the authorities sort out any fault, let the insurance company assess the damages. Just prepare yourself to defend your position. Write down every detail you can remember and use diagrams. Do this while it's fresh in your mind. Get the names and contact numbers of any witnesses. Shop around for boats of equal size, style and value so that IF it is a write-off, you know the value. If it is repaired, include the cost of a survey after repairs are complete to ensure it is as good as before. All insurance companies have a responsibility to, at a minimum, make it as good as it was before, or, compensate an equivilent amount.
Hope the season gets better and stays that way.

 

[Nandy]

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I tried to post earlier in your PM but it crashed my computer.

Yup, I been crashing a bit lately!!!! LOL!!! Thanks for posting...

I appreciate every ones concern. I will keep you all posted. I should get at least 2 more estimates tomorrow.

 

[Willyclay]

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The most important thing here is nobody got killed or seriously injured! Glad everyone is okay. You might actually benefit from the officer issuing tickets so you can get "your day in court". Our daughter and youngest son were each involved in separate car accidents resulting in property damage only. Both were cited by the responding officers as having violated a law. Both were found not guilty by a JUDGE when they got their day in court and all sides of the stories were heard. I have faith in the legal system. It is my experience that there are two main issues: 1) Who committed the original error that started the sequence of events and 2) Who had the last opportunity to prevent the incident.

FYI, I am not and never have been a lawyer. Good luck!

 

[cornercanyon]

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What a bummer. Hope it all turns out okay, you are all on our prayer list, (your boat too!).

 

[MrBigStuff]

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I think he was pretty clear in stating that he had stopped and was actually backing up to avoid being hit. Not much more one can do to "give way" at that point.

I'm sorry but stopping is probably the worst thing you could do IMHO. As I said before, you have no maneuverability when stopped and very little when moving backwards. How fast can you back up compared to going forward?

Ever seen those diagrams they have for avoiding collisions? They have a big red arrow arcing away to your right from the stand-on boat. It's not an X indicating stop or slow down.

As far as questioning the situation, I agree with others that only Nandy can attest to the conditions at the time. This "fleshing" out of the details serves to help everyone else become more prepared for these kind of situations. Once we know everyone is safe, it's only natural to want to try and understand what went wrong, what went right and how can it be avoided in the future.

 

[skargo]

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I think I will print this out as a reminder.

 

[QC]

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What good is that ^^^^^ if it's written in Canadian?

This is what I am imagining based on the details we have been given: