OOPS Lower unit water hose Came with it ?

[sschefer]

Re: OOPS Lower unit water hose Came with it ?

none of what you said made any sense to me, but merry xmas to you also =)

Yep, the big orange box is "Home Cheapo" and a Single Jack is a 3lb short handled sledge hammer. Named a single jack because in the old mining days that was the most one man could handle by himself and work a full day.

Hence the name Single Man Jack Hammer shortened to "Single Jack". We use the term in the trades because it is more comforting for the customer to hear you call out for a "Single Jack" then it is to hear you say.."Get me a bigger hammer, I'll make that SOB fit."

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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Gotcha,

Anyone know if the gears above look like anything worth keeping, or mabey even trying to sell... let me know if i need to get more pictures.

 

[SuzukiChopper]

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From what you have shown so far I'd say the prop shaft and gears look like they'd be worth putting on ebay. Doesn't look like there was any damage to them.

 

[sschefer]

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I agree they look good but wear is often not visible to the naked eye. Sell em as is.

So, I have to ask, don't you get cold working in the freezer or is that where you have to hide the extra boat parts from your wife. I have mine in a fake garden. Looks like I'm working in the garden but I'm really working on the boat.

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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LOL, the gf loves when i work on the boat (thus she would have too, or else we wouldn't be dating ) She can't wait to get it on the water, as our dirt bikes and atv's have been getting used in excess, we will now have something relaxing to do on the water ! Can't wait...

And yeah, not so stoked i bashed open the lower LOL only to find out the gears look fine at least, the prop shaft was bent tho, i could tell when i spun it, it rotated off balance alittle.... such as life !

Just found out i had 35k points on one of my cc's accumulated, so i just sent out for a 250 cabelas gift card, so

transom support / grease pump / keel guard / tow ropes and all kinds of small goodies are soon to be going into the blue beast.

 

[JUSTINTIME]

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your gears look great, sell them

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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Hey guys, i took some picts of up in the middle unit, to try and see if the water gasket is still in there (not sure if there would for some reason be one that came off with the copper tube, and one up there) And this is what i saw... It looks like there is one in there, but it could also just be alot of sludge and grease... I haven't yet tried to put the copper tube back in with the washer all greased (lower unit still isn't here) But what do you guys think ?

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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My new "to me" lower unit gets here sat, and i wanna get the water tube back up and in there today... Does the tube go directly in the whole in picture, or does that little rubber cover

Go around the top, and both pieces go inside at the same time... if so, do i put grease on the copper tube, as well the outside of the rubber ?

Thanks

 

[Moody Blue]

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Well if it is what I think it is, that black tube belongs on the output of the waterpump housing. Normally, the water tube remains with the powerhead when removing the L/U. That black tube in the waterpump allows for easier alignment and insertion of the water tube into the waterpump when installing the L/U. Hope that makes sense.

From your photos, it appears the rubber grommet is still in place in the powerhead. That is the good news. The bad news is that it will be very difficult to "blindly" align and insert that water tube into the powerhead as you install the L/U. I would try my best to get that tube out of the waterpump and install it into the powerhead.

Are you getting the proper water tube with the new L/U?

 

[emckelvy]

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If the black piece is made of rubber and a snug fit on the water tube, it's meant to go approx where it is now. It serves as a 'bumper' to keep the tube from rubbing thru where it might touch the inside of the exhaust passages.

If it's made of hard plastic and fits loosely about the water tube, it's probably the water tube guide sleeve. The guide sleeve fits into the top of the water pump and helps 'catch' the bottom end of the water tube when you're installing the lower unit.

Note that you still need to get the copper water tube out of the pump body. Once the water tube is removed, pull the old rubber grommet out. Then scrape/clean out all deposits in the pump body where the grommet sits.

Then you'll most likely need a new water tube grommet for the pump body. Lube the grommet inside and out with some waterproof grease before installing.

You put the guide sleeve in after you install the grommet in top of the upper pump body.

Hope that clears things up a bit...........ed

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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The piece of black rubber isn't hard plastic, its soft and moves easily up and down... it was higher up then it is in the picture, but i moved it down a bit to see if it moved.

I got some marine waterproof grease yesterday... im going to try and remove the copper pipe from top of water pump... and go from there

i followed you until

"Note that you still need to get the copper water tube out of the pump body. Once the water tube is removed, pull the old rubber grommet out. Then scrape/clean out all deposits in the pump body where the grommet sits.

Then you'll most likely need a new water tube grommet for the pump body. Lube the grommet inside and out with some waterproof grease before installing.

You put the guide sleeve in after you install the grommet in top of the upper pump body.

Hope that clears things up a bit...........ed"

 

[jimg984]

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after removing from pump put in engine end 1st,, when you start connection to pump may have to rotate the tubing a bit,,,, yes lube both the tubing and and seal on each end.. making real sure thr top is seated good,, good luck

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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I got the Copper pipe off, all it took was a little heat, and alot of wiggling ! I see the grommet on water pump end now, it doesn't look amazing, thats for sure.

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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The lower unit i took off my motor didnt have this pin on the top of the drive shaft...

The one i just purchased does... will it still fit in the motor?
(NEW ONE BELOW) Old one above

 

[Moody Blue]

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Encountering the same situation with the driveshaft on two L/U's I have.

From what I understand, that pin preloads the gears in the L/U. In older units, the driveshaft did not have the preload pin and relied on shims under the waterpump base to achieve the proper gear preload. The pin MUST be free to move up and down (it is sping loaded) otherwise you won't be able to properly fit the L/U to the powerhead.

I believe that the two types are interchangeable but waiting for someone more knowledgeable to confirm.

One thing you might check on that driveshaft is the condition of the shaft in the area of the waterpump seal. The older non-stainless steel shafts tended to corrode badly in that area.

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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I think ima need a new copper water pipe... Got the new lower unit, and the old one

Kind of clicks into the new LU, but it wiggles around ALOT, i can move it 4-5 in back in forth on the top with ease... I think it got squished so much by the previous one, its very small at the bottom, and new lu water pump kit is not shrunk.

Also, i changed out this piece from my old LU to teh new one (cause it had a crack in it.) the guy who sold me this LU, put a mark on the spline to say that needs to face froward for the gear shifting to work... So i took off the plastic piece, and i'm not 100% i put it back on the right spline, does this look right ?

 

[emckelvy]

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The previous description is accurate; the preload pin has to do with the lower unit and what type of bearing it has; but has nothing to do with the fit into crankshaft.

One thing to check, later-style lower units had a wider 'bolt pattern' on the (2) studs that stick up out of the top of the gearcase, just forward of the water pump.

Probably would be a good idea to measure your bolt hole spacing and make sure the studs on the new lower unit are spaced the same.

I've used the later-style lower unit on an earlier-style motor but had to file out the sides of the holes in the exhaust tower to make clearance for the wider-spaced studs.

Also, you may find (1) or (2) small dowel pins in the upper face of the gearcase where it mates up to the exhaust tower. If you do, check your tower for the matching alignment holes. I doubt you'll find any, if so, pull any alignment pins you find in the lower unit.

HTH...........ed

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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Just measured the bolts that go into upper face... they seem to measure the same... And i didn't see any dowel pins either...

Old LU

NEW LU

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...0497&ih=008&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&viewitem=

Got a new water pipe, just need it to get here, so i can toss the LU on, and fire this baby up !

 

[oregonboatnewb]

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Got the new copper tube today... can anyone verify that post #36's picture of the plastic piece i put ontop of the shift splines is lined up right... i put the white one on, cause the one on the new unit i got was damaged... and i didn't mark the angle i took it off... don't wanna put back on this lower unit, only to have it not shift.