particles in fuel water seperator

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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

robeward said:
filter was maybe a month old or so. how fast would they rust? i doubt it would rust that bad, that fast. it was not the kind with the clear bowl on the bottom.
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No, it would not rust that much in a month.
 
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robeward said:
care to PM me some details or point me to a website?

basically the polishing i was talking about, someone comes in with a big pump and filtration system. they agitate/recirculate your fuel to stir up debris so that it can be sucked out. some also have cleaners to remove varnish, bacteria and buildup.
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Ayuh,.... I built my own,... an electric fuel pump, suckin' through a HUGE fuel filter,...

It sucks outa the tank, 'n right back into the tank,...
raise, 'n lower the wagon jack to change the fuel levels, pick-up points,....

Slap a new fuel filter on it, 'n keep on Boatin',...
That one did it's job,....
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

robeward said:
care to PM me some details or point me to a website?

basically the polishing i was talking about, someone comes in with a big pump and filtration system. they agitate/recirculate your fuel to stir up debris so that it can be sucked out. some also have cleaners to remove varnish, bacteria and buildup.
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The Small DIY systems pump ~30 Gallons an hour, but you are not being payed by the hour to do this.
It is a Red-Neck system at its finest. :D

Something like THIS.
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

so any pump designed for fuel will be ok? i suppose i could get one of those tank mounted hand pumps. i am sure there are some common safety factors i need to follow since i am dealing with fuel? also who makes HUGE fuel filters?

i figure there is about 60 gallons left in my tank. i want to dispose of about 10-15 for fear of water. for the rest i was considering a 55 gallon plastic barrel. pump it through the filter like you say and put it back in the boat.

logical?
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

robeward said:
so any pump designed for fuel will be ok? i suppose i could get one of those tank mounted hand pumps. i am sure there are some common safety factors i need to follow since i am dealing with fuel? also who makes HUGE fuel filters?

i figure there is about 60 gallons left in my tank. i want to dispose of about 10-15 for fear of water. for the rest i was considering a 55 gallon plastic barrel. pump it through the filter like you say and put it back in the boat.

logical?
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Ayuh,.... I happened to have the housin' for a Mack 2ndary fuel filter kickin' 'round, so I bought the filter,...
I think it's 5 or 10 micron, 'n holds 'bout a gallon,...

If ya want,... Just pump the 1st 5 or 10 gallons out, 'n into whatever yer throwin' it away in,...
After that, there's no reason to pump off into the barrel,..
Right back into the tank, still strains the fuel, through the filter,...

Mine's alot simpler than that video,..
My pump is like that one, only I put long wires, 'n spring clips on the ends, no switch, just hook it to power,...
No pretty board mount either,...
Just a pump, with hooks, a filter housin' with hooks, 'n hoses in between,...
 
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A Fuel Pump like This will get you started. 4psi, 30gal/hr.

If you pump the first few gallons with the water into a container, you can always pump the fuel back out and just leave the water on the bottom behind. There is no reason to lose more than a gallon of gas.
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

ok so just circulate for a couple hours to pick up any stuff in there. makes sense
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

If that was collected in an offshore trip, I'd install a new 10 micron filter for good luck and run it.
If uncomfortable doing that, makes a tank vac,(siphon wand) remove the sending unit and vacuum the junk off the bottom. Works well on water too
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

A magnet should tell you if the particles are rust (iron oxide).
 
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Re: particles in fuel water seperator

With the water problem I encounted this winternI wonder if the odd wheather we had all winter we had has any to with this? warm\ cold\ warm.
 
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bonz_d said:
With the water problem I encounted this winternI wonder if the odd wheather we had all winter we had has any to with this? warm\ cold\ warm.
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i don't think this issue started that far back for me but that is why i mentioned have low fuel in tank for several weeks. that has potential to collect more moisture from air.

i will definitely have a magnet this weekend should i collect any more of the stuff so i will let everyone know.
 
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UncleWillie said:
Polishing will cost less than $30 if you have to buy everything new, and do it yourself.
Fuel Pump, $20. Filter $4. Hoses $5. Doing it yourself, Priceless. :joyous:
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you forgot 20 five gallon jerry cans @ $15 = $300
 
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Boy am I glad I only had about 3.5 gal in my can!
 
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bonz_d said:
With the water problem I encounted this winternI wonder if the odd wheather we had all winter we had has any to with this? warm\ cold\ warm.
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fluctuating temps cause the "lung" effect where the contents of the tank expands and contracts, drawing in humid air from which the E10 draws moisture. No telling if that caused this guy's problems but it's one reason people recommend keeping the tank full and reducing the air space.
 
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Home Cookin' said:
you forgot 20 five gallon jerry cans @ $15 = $300
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The first five gallons goes into a bucket.
The water settles to the bottom and the gas on top goes back into the tank.
After that, the pump filters the crud from the fuel for the next few hours and it goes directly back into the tank in the boat.
No Jerry Cans required. Priceless! :joyous:
 
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Home Cookin' said:
fluctuating temps cause the "lung" effect where the contents of the tank expands and contracts, drawing in humid air from which the E10 draws moisture. No telling if that caused this guy's problems but it's one reason people recommend keeping the tank full and reducing the air space.
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Once again the remaining fuel was left over to be used in a 2 cycle snowblower that didn't servive the winter!
 
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