parts mark up?

[Ciscovet]

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Making a profit is new evil in the US.

I'm a Veterinarian by trade. One day a client came in and asked why do I charge $15 for a vaccine when they can find the same vaccine at the feed store for 3 dollar. I told him it was $3 for the vaccine and $12 for the knowledge of how to give it.

 

[ricohman]

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but when we need to make a phone call we don't go to the payphone anymore, but we still need the phone company, when we need gas we don't use the full service gas attendant anymore but we still need the gas station. so when we need a repair we don't need a parts scalper anymore but we still need the mechanic..

You need to understand the mechanics wage is intertwined with parts and labor costs.
When I worked as a GM tech the shop rate was 30% higher if the customer provided non Delco parts bought elsewhere. And the mechanic had the final say if he even wanted to use the non OEM parts. Lots of jobs were refused and for good reason. I still remember customers coming back after their "rebuilt" alternators failed and wanting the tech to test them so they could take the paperwork for warranty. The tech would test it but at shop rate prices.
These people saved nothing.
If you really want to save money, shop online for parts and install them yourself.

 

[Brian 26]

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I can see both sides of this, on one hand you can't order a $12 cheeseburger and then cry foul because a pound of ground beef could have been bought at the grocery store for $5.

On the other hand you should do a little research and not just blindly pay whatever the guy charges because there are crooks out there.

 

[Chris1956]

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Gee, I didn't think anyone repaired gearcases anymore. New ones are avail for a lot of models from SEI for <$1000. Bolt 'em on and go...

 

[bruceb58]

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Gee, I didn't think anyone repaired gearcases anymore. New ones are avail for a lot of models from SEI for <$1000. Bolt 'em on and go...

I didn't realize they did outboard lowers. I would go that route too if I was the OP.

 

[spdracr39]

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As in anything the choice belongs to the consumer. Either you want to spend 1000.00 at his shop, you want to pay someone else to do it, or you want to do it yourself. If you don't like his pricing policy shop somewhere else don't whine about it because you don't like it. If it didn't work for him he would be out of business and if it does he doesn't care what you think about it. The factory ( and sierra) mark their parts up a lot more than he does because they have them and you need them that's all the reason there is. If it was my shop I wouldn't do the job if the customer supplied the parts because all it leads to is headaches.

 

[airshot]

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This thread has been quite interesting, good points from both sides. I work in a machine shop, we build tooling for among others Ford,
GM, Honda etc. I have found it amazing that we have almost a million dollars invested in equipment to make the tools they require but the most the will pay is 75.00 per hour for labor, however when you go into a ford service shop their rate is 105.00 per hour. They claim there per hour cost rate in there manufacturing shops is 95 per hr yet they will not pay a vendor more than 75. Hmmmmm something fishy here or what....I can see how frustrated people can get, I see it every day..

Airshot

 

[jimmy wise]

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notice no answer on what he does for a living......as for the vet you also get part of the twelve for the office, overhead and insurance. I loved when I painted for people on their cars. paint is huge money and even if I do everything right a huge bug can destroy it. heck sand from the road damages it. but all problem are my fault. same with mechanics......customers expect you to redo the job for free even if the parts are at fault. it gets old people wanting to pay nothing and expect everything. they are not nice either they expect stuff for a good price but want top shelf goods. sorry if you feel like we think your an idiot, not the case. its the way of the world now. everyone is sue happy now, I saw on the news some parents are suing over their child choking on a souvenir penny. why is it anyone elses fault the parents don't take care of their kids

 

[avantifishski]

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OP here and I know and you know and the mechanic with my half torn down motor knows that nobody is suing anybody over a gear case rebuild with my parts. because any issue the gear case has is going to be because I hit something else in the water. that's how it got this way in the first place,so what ive learned here is to pay the $1000 and get it done the shops way..or you will be like me sitting on the couch typing while wondering if the mechanic is fixing your motor with the parts you dropped off and everything is great, or did he do something to your motor so it blows the power head or something else to screw your motor up to get even or get you to bring your boat back to him so he can recoup the balance of the $1000.....

 

[jimmy wise]

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I would hope he wouldn't do that but people are strange. I hope it all works out for you. I would never screw anything up on purpose or charge a huge markup. there are bad shops and bad customers. rv is worse for price fixing. its stupid markup. im sure it will be fine. when will it be finished

 

[greenbush future]

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Only in America eh? Car dealerships, boat dealerships, bla bla bla. No one ever forced anyone to spend their $, except on taxes LOL. Everything else is a choice. You don't like the price or service, by all means do it yourself. This website is one of the best tools a boater could ask for. It allows for both, once again, offering a choice. I don't whine about dealerships prices, I just learn what must be taken in, and what I can do on my own. Too each their own, but I sure respect anyone willing to hang a sign and make a go of running their own business. We really are fortunate to even be able to chose. BTW I haven't seen a Spectrum or Lone Star Dealership ever, and I own both brands. I do have shop manuals for both, and all you good people who offer to help.
Thanks, this IS my favorite website to read and learn.

 

[Mel Taylor]

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OP here and I know and you know and the mechanic with my half torn down motor knows that nobody is suing anybody over a gear case rebuild with my parts. because any issue the gear case has is going to be because I hit something else in the water. that's how it got this way in the first place,so what ive learned here is to pay the $1000 and get it done the shops way..or you will be like me sitting on the couch typing while wondering if the mechanic is fixing your motor with the parts you dropped off and everything is great, or did he do something to your motor so it blows the power head or something else to screw your motor up to get even or get you to bring your boat back to him so he can recoup the balance of the $1000.....

Ho-Hum, this thread is getting boring. It seems to me that that you are determined to not trust the mechanic or shop who you chose to take your motor to. It's also appears that you consider them a rip-off establishment. It's obvious to me that nothing we can say here is going to change your opinion so we go round and round discussing the same issues, ad infinitum and ad nauseam.

Good luck and I hope you do some day find a mechanic you can trust and who will do the work at your price and to your satisfaction.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Ho-Hum, this thread is getting boring. It seems to me that that you are determined to not trust the mechanic or shop who you chose to take your motor to. It's also appears that you consider them a rip-off establishment. It's obvious to me that nothing we can say here is going to change your opinion so we go round and round discussing the same issues, ad infinitum and ad nauseam.

Good luck and I hope you do some day find a mechanic you can trust and who will do the work at your price and to your satisfaction.

If you're so bored and nauseated then don't reply and let the the thread drift off to the archives......

I just have one comment. A boat is considered a toy. And with all toys, boats, RVs, ATVs, snowmobiles, old cars etc, your going to pay a premium for work being done, including parts. You got to pay to play........ All people love their toys and are willing to pay, at times reluctantly, but they still pay.

 

[Mel Taylor]

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If you're so bored and nauseated then don't reply and let the the thread drift off to the archives......

Touch?! LOL

Mel

 

[Ciscovet]

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I guess the real question is at what markup would it be considered gouging?

 

[OllieC]

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I guess the real question is at what markup would it be considered gouging?

It's relative. If you do your own research maybe you can either negotiate or take it somewhere else.

...however if you agree on a price and back seat drive after the fact....wellllllll

...I am not trying to say one size fits all with my comment. I understand there are crooks.....however as I mentioned, doing some research, like on iBoats, might make the person better prepared.

I didn't read all the threads, but I'm sure someone on here has mentioned "overhead" that a shop has to cover.......

 

[Fun Times]

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I didn't think anyone repaired gearcases anymore. New ones are avail for a lot of models from SEI for <$1000. Bolt 'em on and go...

I didn't realize they did outboard lowers. I would go that route too if I was the OP.

In closing of this thread here is an FYI for all of us to be aware of!!! On certain name brand products, there are times that may arise where it could be more cost efficient to simply buy a new upper or lower unit gear housing that comes already assembled vs the cost of having the original unit rebuilt by someone professionally or in some cases doing it yourself. With the help of aftermarket companies that (one is named above) sells many types of drive units that can be found at more affordable prices if you do your shopping homework.

Some forum members may not know this but iboats also has a secondary website that has been slowly merging with it's main website store. In the coming months, iboats hopes to have the two websites completely merged together as they are working on it at this time. Turns out iboats offers just about everything engine, stern drive and outboard related at competitive prices of other like venders that sells the same type of products.

Here's the link to a complete list of iboats engines and drives for those that are interested.
Outboard Powerheads, Outdrives, Sterndrives, Upper Units, Lower Units & Gearcases - iboats.com

As this thread really is not turning out to be all that nice and peaceful of a conversation as a whole, let's see if we can let this thread fade away into the archives naturally like mentioned a few times now. Thank you everyone!
iboats Moderation team!

 

[Bob_VT]

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Has everyone read the Latest Announcement from iboats?????

It is at the top of the Forum and since most of iboats members are male and ultimately focused on other things ........Oh look a squirrel!!

Here it is:

1. 
   [*=left]ALL iboats Forum Members and Guests:
   To show our appreciation for your participation in the Forums, we're offering an exclusive Forums-only discount good for an additional 5% off your order for a limited time.
   To redeem, simply call our Customer Service Team at 800-914-1123 and mention the Forums 5% off discount. Offer excludes engines, trolling motors, and electronics.

 

[GA_Boater]

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I saw the announcement last night just before Midnight. Then it said "today only", so I assumed it was an early April Fools joke since it didn't say what the "today only" date was an was close to a new day. "Limited time only" is a much better squirrel.

 

[avantifishski]

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boat is back from shop,he fixed it with my parts when I showed up he handed me my old gears..anyone know the break in process for new gears or sugestions?