Put Limits on new members?

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korygrandy

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Re: Put Limits on new members?

shadaddy is showing over 50,000 posts in less than 5 years, that's almost 30 posts per day average right there.

Tashasdaddy's profile states he is the senior tech advisor. I am guessing he is the only one in this thread getting paid to post here. That 50,000 posts is probably not accurate. If I was the Senior Technical Advisor for a company with a forum...I would have the most posts too! I'm just a software tester but it comes with a lot of responsibility and authority.

Talk about annoying, take a minute and look at some of the answers that are posted in the engine help sections they range from advice on types of engines that people don't have a clue what there talking about (they don't know a 4 from a 6 cyl) to down right dangerous advice. If any things needs to be addressed that would be my suggestion.

Agreed, but at the same time it's a forum so the members contributing to the thread should bring this up to the OP (especially if they are confident the information is incorrect).

There have been some posts I have made where I've received varying solutions and non-solutions. Hell, my first post was about my boat having a rough start, Bond-o chimed in telling me I needed a tune-up...in fact no one had the correct solution. The solution was that my throttle has a button to disengage the prop so I can crank with higher rpms. I almost spent $100+ on an un-needed tune-up.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Put Limits on new members?

Maybe add something like this to your sig?

"Please do not send me Private Messages asking for advice/help. Post it in the forums and I will gladly help you there. Thanks!"


This doesn't help much. I have such a statement and I get PM's requesting tech advice frequently. I also get requests for PDFs, even thought my footnote says that I don't send them anymore, due to bandwidth limitations.

If it is technically possible, I would restrict posting privileges until the new member opens the site rules and clicks on something, indicating that he/she has read them.



???
 

hostage

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I think the people you are talking about are more of the exception to the rule. I seldom send messages to people. Though I do have a couple questions for yah.

1) What happens when someone that has more than 50 posts messages someone w/ less than 50, can that person reply?

2) Would you rather see threads with the titles "@mark42 L@@K HERE!!!!!!!"?

You could have a polite click and paste message or put something on your sig saying, "please place questions on the forum for all to see, since your answer will get answered quicker and it will help others who have the same question that use the search button."

-Hostage

Edit: Just saw the guy who posted above me when I was writing this and that is exactly what I am talking about.
 

oddjob

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The forums that have those rules also take that into account. You are not allowed to must make garbage posts and rack up 50 in one day. That gets you banned.

The fact is it works for many, many other forums where people gather to share information on common hobbies.

Don't just jump on the band wagon of "Don't want to do it, it might drive away buyers from iboats." that is just a pure BS statement and highly inflammatory stance. You have to be middle of the road to be here, no politics allowed. So stop it before the thread gets canned.

And I am tired of telling people to post their message on the forum. Maybe I'll just ignore them, or tell them to **** off. Would that be better?

Wow! First I'd like to say what a combative thread you weave. personally I found the title of the thread offensive. Its funny and telling how you played the politic card. One of the big issues in politics today is the willful want of some to limit others freedom. And I dont agree that you have to be a moderate to be on this forum. I certainly dont consider myself one. IMHO A moderate doesnt have any principals unless pressured or brived to make one.

Anyway, I read your thread about your boat modfication a few years ago. Great job! Did anyone help you with that?..peace
 

Thad

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This doesn't help much. I have such a statement and I get PM's requesting tech advice frequently. I also get requests for PDFs, even thought my footnote says that I don't send them anymore, due to bandwidth limitations.

If it is technically possible, I would restrict posting privileges until the new member opens the site rules and clicks on something, indicating that he/she has read them.

???

I actually like this idea.
 

hostage

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Wow! First I'd like to say what a combative thread you weave. personally I found the title of the thread offensive. Its funny and telling how you played the politic card. One of the big issues in politics today is the willful want of some to limit others freedom. And I dont agree that you have to be a moderate to be on this forum. I certainly dont consider myself one. IMHO A moderate doesnt have any principals unless pressured or brived to make one.

Anyway, I read your thread about your boat modfication a few years ago. Great job! Did anyone help you with that?..peace

Looks like we should put limits on what people with 1,000+ post, since these two high rollers are going to get this thread locked. :p

-Hostage
 

tuffshot

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Looks like we just proved that guys point about irrelevent posts...lol


Just playin, after all this is the Dockside not the Darkside.

All kidding aside, some new people are not really trying to circumvent the system, in this got to have it now world, concideration is not always an option. Someone with a large post count usually has quite a bit of knowledge about the subject. And the more visible someone is, the train of thought is that they may be more accessable.

Personally, I do a profile search and read several of the posters history posts. They may have already answered the question I have in mind.
 

oops!

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Tashasdaddy's profile states he is the senior tech advisor. I am guessing he is the only one in this thread getting paid to post here..

i do not believe any moderator or past moderator, frequent poster or guest gets paid to post on this site....possibly a discount at the i boats store but that is about it......this site is built on people helping people......our senoir tech advisor....is a title he earned by helping people


Bond-o chimed in telling me I needed a tune-up...in fact no one had the correct solution. The solution was that my throttle has a button to disengage the prop so I can crank with higher rpms. I almost spent $100+ on an un-needed tune-up.

not to speak for bond-o or to sound krass or disrespectful but, he was counting on the fact that you read your owners manual
please understand the people you mention are all highly respected posters here not to mention top notch professionals.

MARK......i had to step away for a little while cause all the pm's
but .... now i just refer them to a forum or (if its a long time iboater....of course ill answer....'ell....ill give them my phone number.....
if im really haveing a problem my self....and i want don or bond-o to look in....ill just pm them the link.

but back to the topic....my pm box is 98 percent full right now.....it was 20 percent last night.....i really dont mind the system

cheers bud.:)
ward
 

Mike Robinson

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Sorry, I had to laugh when I read that. It reminded me when I used to hear great grandpa say that. I always thought, wow, that was a long time ago...

I never at the time gave it any thought that we would see the next century and someday say that very thing. In fact, until I read it, I never even thought about it all, let alone saying it. But it fits:D

As for the post limits...I think it would be a bad idea. Just answer back as suggested or delete without an answer period.

Some people have read and lurked around for a long time. You start to get the feeling you understand a persons demeaner and character. Some people are timid and do not want the world to see what they said, so they ask "privately" who they feel they relate with the best. Or, who they feel may give the right answer. So to that I say, Mark, you should feel honored that people hold you in that high regard.:D

Just another way to look at it.:rolleyes:

Well said Thad! Very insightful!
 

Bob_VT

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Tashasdaddy's profile states he is the senior tech advisor. I am guessing he is the only one in this thread getting paid to post here. (LMAO Moderators do not get paid a single cent) That 50,000 posts is probably not accurate. (The post count is significantly higher since Moderator posts are wiped out constantly) If I was the Senior Technical Advisor for a company with a forum...I would have the most posts too! I'm just a software tester but it comes with a lot of responsibility and authority.



Agreed, but at the same time it's a forum so the members contributing to the thread should bring this up to the OP (especially if they are confident the information is incorrect).

There have been some posts I have made where I've received varying solutions and non-solutions. Hell, my first post was about my boat having a rough start,(WRONG It was about your stereo http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=386731) Bond-o chimed in telling me (Bond-o NEVER responded to that thread at all http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=387759 ) I needed a tune-up...in fact no one had the correct solution. The solution was that my throttle has a button to disengage the prop so I can crank with higher rpms. (Which is actually a button to disconnect the shift linkage that is already in Neutral) I almost spent $100+ on an un-needed tune-up.

My turn. See my comments above (inserted)

Listen..... It takes quite a bit to get me upset however, you have pushed buttons. Your post was about "guessing" if TD got paid AND you posted information that was not factual.

Perhaps your status as a new boater has confused you.

Loose the drama ...it is not welcomed here..... you owe some apologies. Making accusations to be part of a thread is not the way we operate and is not tolerated.
 

Bondo

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Ayuh,..... Thanks for the link Oops,....

As for this topic,.... I completely Agree with ya Mark,....
I just delete pms about any kinda Tech questions, just as my signature says I do...

If i'm asked to look in on a thread, I most certainly will,+ offer any Help that I can,...
But I still Won't answer any Tech questions, unless in the general forums...
I get several pms a week, that are read, then deleted...
'ell,... I've been gettin' 'em from posters with ZERO posts....

As for things changing since 02,... Ya, a Pile of things are different,...
When I joined, there were No pms at All...

As for Bad info, vs. Good info,.... Many of my posts are to correct Bad advise...
And for the Wasted Tune Up stated above,...
I doubt it was Wasted,+ We who do most of the answering here, have to Assume the posters talents,....
I guess I Assumed wrong in that case...
While I'm not going to send you the $100. you say you Wasted,....
I promise I won't be bothering you anymore with useless information....
That you can take to the Bank....

We can only answer questions using the info presented,....
If the info is Wrong, that don't make the answers Wrong, just not applicable...
If the poster has No Clue on how to operate a boat, muchless work on 1,....
Maybe they should Say So, as otherwise I'm going to ASSUME they Do...

My answers/advice is based solely on the Info presented in a post... Nothin' more, nothin' less...
I'm merely a lowly Mechanic,.... Not a Magician, nor a Mindreader...
 

Mark42

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I was probably hasty in making the original post. Just annoyed I guess.

I also get annoyed at responding to posts, just to find out the original poster had only made one post, and then is gone. We used to call them "one post wonders".

At the bottom of the screen it say that there are 235,434 members. Take a walk through the Member List (in the bar above) and you will see the vast majority of them are zero or "one post wonders". Makes me feel like I am wasting my time responding to anyone's first post.
 

Bob_VT

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Mark...... they all have to start somewhere and yes it is frustrating when we (iboats member's) answer and they vanish. To answer that forst post is similar to lending a hand to a stranger .......... holding the door open. ;)

It is interesting on how many do come back. We do have many good new member's.
 

QC

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I'm merely a lowly Mechanic,.... Not a Magician, nor a Mindreader...
Only one out of three Ms . . . You like, so totally, suck dude.
 

Autotech

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Welllll; I've been on here a while as well as I can remember I've only PM'ed 4 maybe 5 people. Don't post a lot either though:redface:. I 've been around boats all my life but when I need to know something I come and do a search and usually find an answer I can live with OR GO CHECK OUT. But I would hate to think my post # would keep me from asking a question to anyone I wanted too. By the way most of my PM's have been on something other than boat questions:). And the amazing thing is I GOT ANSWERS.
 

Mark42

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Welllll; I've been on here a while as well as I can remember I've only PM'ed 4 maybe 5 people. Don't post a lot either though:redface:. I 've been around boats all my life but when I need to know something I come and do a search and usually find an answer I can live with OR GO CHECK OUT. But I would hate to think my post # would keep me from asking a question to anyone I wanted too. By the way most of my PM's have been on something other than boat questions:). And the amazing thing is I GOT ANSWERS.

Yes, that is the way its been for me too. The whole point of a pm is to have a private communication with another member about whatever you wish to talk about. Could be about boats, a specific thread, or something all together different.

And that is the way I believe it should be, but not to ask for private help with an issue there is a specific forum set up to address it.
 

Mark42

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Mark...... they all have to start somewhere and yes it is frustrating when we (iboats member's) answer and they vanish. To answer that forst post is similar to lending a hand to a stranger .......... holding the door open. ;)

It is interesting on how many do come back. We do have many good new member's.

Yes, you are right. We were all at post 1 at some time. Back in 2003 the forums had a different feel and tone. I would bet that the number of members who signed up back then stayed much longer than the average new member today.

Oh well, my original post is not worth losing sleep over! :D
 
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