Restoration of my 1965 Glasspar Avolon

wishboneZ51

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Re: Restoration of my 1965 Glasspar Avolon

Ok today I am spending more coin and the wallet is going to be light for sure. I am sooo excited to start painting the blue this weekend too.
 

ezmobee

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I agree and support your transom plans.
 

wishboneZ51

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I agree and support your transom plans.

You were saying earlier that you think I should epoxi the top! My thought was to sand the top down to fresh wood to take any of the brittle wood away so that the epoxi would have a good hold! How far along the sides should I have the fiberglass go along the sides and the deck?
 

ezmobee

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I am hoping the epoxy will seep down in there a good bit and solidify everything back up. I'd coat it and watch it for a bit and keep adding more till it stops soaking it up. By the way, when I did my epoxy I just used those cheap chip brushes and pitched after each use. I assuming your asking how far your "tabbing" should come. That goes a bit past my glass knowlege. I'm a tin head!!
 

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I follow this thread with interest because I have 1967 Avalon - identical hull. I may have missed it, but did you indicate what hp your "new" motor is? Mine had a 1967 80 hp Johnson - v4, regular shift (not the electric shift). I expect that it would not be rated at 80 hp under our current system (it was probably rated at the powerhead, not the prop shaft) and I am quite certain that the ravages of Father Time would further diminish the actual hp put out by such an old engine. That being said, she would fly along pretty good - I never timed it on a GPS, but the old speedo read 28 mph, which feels damn fast in small boat like that.
It didn't have any tilt or trim, so the nose actually rode pretty high when up on plane, and I have no doubt that I lost some top end by virtue of the fixed tilt angle, but it would pull a skier without too much trouble, so it was a good compromise.
I put all this in here to give you some reference point regarding the engine you are putting on. (What year and hp? Did I miss that? It looks like a late 70s or early 80s JohnnyRude v-4?) I am pretty sure my Avalon was not rated for more than 90 hp, and while that may have been partly a weight issue, even as much as I admire and respect that Glasspar hull design, turning at WOT with more than 90 horses behind you in that hull might be a little dicey.
You are clearly approaching your rebuild carefully, and I am sure you will approach handling the boat the same way, at least until you get the hang of it.
By the way, it looks like you are getting great results. Keep the pics coming!!
 

wishboneZ51

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Thank you for your comments on my situation.

"I expect that it would not be rated at 80 hp under our current system (it was probably rated at the powerhead, not the prop shaft) and I am quite certain that the ravages of Father Time would further diminish the actual hp put out by such an old engine."

Actually that is incorrect, our boat is rated at right at 100hp under todays standards. If you go by the USCG calculations under maximum rated HP for a hull under 20 feet!

In all my years being on the water and in the military as a sailer, we all know there are a lot of variables that go into your ride, speed, and list. Although some people such as yourself may think 28 mph is fast :(while others might think that speed is real slow. It just all depends on the person and how comfortable they feel.:rolleyes:

Have you seen videos of the Glasspar G3? That is a magnificent boat and one that would go over 45 mph stock from the factory. Now that boat is almost two feet narrower and two feet shorter. So if you think our boat is small dont get in one of those.

To give you an idea of what I am looking for I want to be able to have my entire family in the boat on the lake, towing a tube in the back, socializing and have plenty of snacks, food, and drinks. If you have kids you know they are always crying about something. Now I want to do all of that and go atleast 32-35mph.:D
 

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Hey WB,

It appears the wood on your transom IS solid and that your diagnosis might be correct on the top portion having been exposeds to water but nothing else. I agree with you plan whole heartedly. As far as tabbing to the sides and the deck 6 to 8 inches should be about right.

Can't wait to see the BLUE!!!!!

I'm just sayin...:D
 

wishboneZ51

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Hey WB,

It appears the wood on your transom IS solid and that your diagnosis might be correct on the top portion having been exposeds to water but nothing else. I agree with you plan whole heartedly. As far as tabbing to the sides and the deck 6 to 8 inches should be about right.

Can't wait to see the BLUE!!!!!

I'm just sayin...:D

Hey Wood thanks for piping in buddy, I cant do this without you so stick around and throw your input in when you see me do something wrong.

Ok, so my question is, should I cut into the bottom stern area beneith the top flooring to expose the transom at the very bottom of the hull? Would it be that critical to gain access to this area below? If not my thinking was too make the new sheet of wood in the exact shape of the stern with the drop down portion going down to the very bottom where the drain hull is!

6-8 inches of exposure around all sides behond the transom got it. Now should those be a gradual layered out to 8 inches or just cut all three layers to the same length?

Do you know if our keel beams reach to the transom? If that is the case, it would be good to go under and do some mega bracing with new fiberglass to wrap around the keel beams and to the bottom of the hull.
 

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I wouldn't even bother with the drop down piece. Would not add much strength. Taper your tabs 8, 6, and 4 to give you a nice sandable blend into the sides and the deck.

I'm just sayin...:D
 

wishboneZ51

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Ok Aniversury isofficially over and back to business starting tomorrow morning. I am going to have a busy day in the garage. I am going toget the first coat of blue on the sides of the hull on. Next I am going to start glassing in the transom with 1708 Biaxel cloth and Poly Resin sinse that is what the boat is made out of.

I hope to see some real progress tomorrow, well see stay tuned for pictures!
 

wishboneZ51

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Update:

So I have finished grinding away all of the old fiberglass from the transom and prepped for the 1/4" 5 ply wood to be epoxied on and then glass in the 1708 Biaxel glass.

I have also prepped the sides and put down the first coat of blue. My wife and I are speechless it is going to look great. Tomorrow night I will wet sand and lay the second coat on it followed by most probably two more coats for a total of 4.

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Looking good!!!!!!

I'm just sayin...:D
 

tsennett

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WBone-

Looks like really nice work - how many horses are you putting on? Like I noted before, I saw the pics of your engine but didn't see the year or hp. I have seen a G3- basically a hull and engine- great design- built to go fast, and with style.
I assume you have looked at the glasspar site - those guys were really helpful when I first aquired my Avalon.
Keep the pics coming!
 

wishboneZ51

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WBone-

Looks like really nice work - how many horses are you putting on? Like I noted before, I saw the pics of your engine but didn't see the year or hp. I have seen a G3- basically a hull and engine- great design- built to go fast, and with style.
I assume you have looked at the glasspar site - those guys were really helpful when I first aquired my Avalon.
Keep the pics coming!

Sorry I thought for sure it was in there!

The engine is a 1986 Evinrude 110 with full tilt and trim. We are going to install the engine for maximum use of using the trim so we can make sure the bow stays level. So it will for sure be a little bit lower in the water then for optimal performance from the engine. :D
 

wishboneZ51

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Tonight I wet sanded and applied the second coat of blue. I have made the descision to put on 4 coats. The second coat looks much better, I dont think it is going to get darker then it is already. But it will hide the white from showing behind it.

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That is going to look great - I think your boat will go fast with that 110 on it, and look fast with that blue highlight!
 

wishboneZ51

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Well Tonight is going to be a defining moment. I will be more careful in wet sanding and hopefully not break through any blue paint. I am pretty sure the color will not change any darker but it will be interisting to see how much it covers from its background white.
 

wishboneZ51

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Things are looking up with the third coat of blue on the sides. For some reason the starbord side is a little runny which is going to call for more wet sanding as apposed to the port. What puzzles me is that I started with the port and you would think it would be the wettest not the other side that I did last hmmm. I amgoing to make sure I go real slow wet sanding like I did tonight and I most probably wont add any 333 thinner to the paint.

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wishboneZ51

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Update,

Ok so we wet sanded and put down the 4th coat of blue paint. I think it looks really good. However, I am sceptical of it living up to its job and all the abuse. I am thinking of putting on one more coat of blue before wet sanding to 2000 grit paper and making it look smooth as glass, anybody have any objections?

I also used the Marine Tex Epoxi for the top of the wood on the transom as well as the inside of where the holes were to the mini kicker motor plate and the origional motor mount holes. After that dries I will lay down the 1/4 ply sheet against the origional transom before laying down my 1708 glass.:D

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