Restoration Project.

[island mike]

Re: Restoration Project.

Allright,blue.
Just keep in mind that on the floor it will most likely get wet sometimes,And it will start to smell real funky..
I keep my carpet strictly on the hull area, under the windows,The rest is flick speckle.
When I started cutting the carpet and put it up,It did not fit anymore,Because of the hull shape of the boat I had miscalculated.Lucky me I had enough carpet.
So if you DO decide on carpet remember to cut bigger than actual size.
Good luck and....PICS!!!!
I mike

 

[island mike]

Re: Restoration Project.

Ok
Here are the photos


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You can see from the photos that the white part is above the floor line. it is not really pleasant to look at and being that this is going to be almost the internal side walls of the boat, i'd like to get then relatively smoothe. Any suggestions?

Mike, I found the rot in the transom and started tearing it out. That is when i noticed the rot in the stringer. This led me to the rot in the floor/sole and inside the box seats.

What started as a simple cut and polish and repaint, became a MUCH bigger job...

But I am happier finding it now than after I have it all looking nice and having to pull it all apart again...

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Blue,I forgot to ask but has the deck /stringer ever been replaced? I am not familiar with your boat but it has only one stringer.
Did you see any bulkheads when you ripped the deck off??I mike.

 

[Blueyboy]

Re: Restoration Project.

Hey Mike,

I dont think it has, but i've only had the boat for about 1 year. The fiberglassing around it looks original and is a right pita to get through. They built em tough back then...

There were two dividing walls on either side under the splashwell and these formed the rear sections of two box seats running on each side of the boat. I think the front and back box seats were acting as supports for the sides of the boat to help hold its shape.

There was nothing else under the floor but the stringer up the middle and the two .... things?... either side of it that you can see in the pic.

So the middle section is where the floor went and the two bits either side were box seats the i am pretty sure also provided structural support for the sides of the hull. The only support for te part of the hull hitting the water is the one stringer.

But hey - if it survived 45 years to get to this point its done pretty well. Just hoping my repairs last that long....

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[Teamster]

Re: Restoration Project.

One quick thought on carpet for the floor,..

Many boat company's now offer "snap is carpet",.....Putting that kind of system in your boat would allow you to have carpet when you want it, And allow you to take it out to clean the carpet and boat, And also be able to hang the carpet up to dry when needed,...

Kind of a best of both worlds sort of thing,....

 

[island mike]

Re: Restoration Project.

Hey Mike,

I dont think it has, but i've only had the boat for about 1 year. The fiberglassing around it looks original and is a right pita to get through. They built em tough back then...

There were two dividing walls on either side under the splashwell and these formed the rear sections of two box seats running on each side of the boat. I think the front and back box seats were acting as supports for the sides of the boat to help hold its shape.

There was nothing else under the floor but the stringer up the middle and the two .... things?... either side of it that you can see in the pic.

So the middle section is where the floor went and the two bits either side were box seats the i am pretty sure also provided structural support for the sides of the hull. The only support for te part of the hull hitting the water is the one stringer.

But hey - if it survived 45 years to get to this point its done pretty well. Just hoping my repairs last that long....

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O.k I understand.
Amazing it held up so well for so long though.My stringers were mush and my boat is 44 years old!
Once you get the stringer out-a grinder works well-(careful) you should be able to see if it is part off the keel or not.get all the wood out since there is rot in there.Clean out the gap if there is one,sand,clean always with acetone,Replace.Did you check out the stringer replacement threads already?tons of great info and tricks.Check them out there are some things you should know about attaching a stringer to hull.
Regards I mike.

 

[Blueyboy]

Re: Restoration Project.

Hey Mike,

I had a few weeks of quiet time at work where I hammered the threads here to try to find out what needed doing. Got a fair idea with the stringer but still a bit nervous being that this is my first fibreglassing job and that the stringer is so important for the structural integrity.

But all the threads have taught me that i need to put a "putty" liner between the stringer and hull and to curve everything to make the matting sit better. Looks pretty straight forward.

I think my biggest problem at this stage is trying to get the stringer out in one peice so i can use it as a template...And trying to decide what to use to replace it. It definately isnt ply and I'm pretty sure its a hardwood... We have HEAPS of jarrah here in perth and fairly cheap but it's not treated. But I think this might be a good option if i can seal it with the resin and make sure all my screw holes get sealed properly.

Need a bit of guidance with this...


Cheers

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PS. I am pretty certain the stringer is not a part of the keel. I think its going to be a simple pull out, clean up, put in a new one job.

 

[island mike]

Re: Restoration Project.

Hi,blue.
Very well.The jarrah I know nothing about,Woods used for stringers is almost always marine ply,Or indeed treated(outdoor)ply.
The trick is to let it dry COMPLETLY,otherwise the resin will not stick,Dont be nervous I know you can do it.
The putty That you mentioned is used to seperate the stringer from the hull a little;If you stick the stringer directly to the hull it can cause stress areas and can cause cracks in your hull.That being said I think you will alright with that since your stringer is located directly above your keel.
The new stringer should be encased in fiberglass,(Like the old one)Resin alone will not do...I still would like to see what it looks like with the stringer out you dont know for sure if it doesnot go down in the keel area somewhere.Anyway no worrys about the fiberglassing,Its no rocketscience really,
Remember when cutting out the stringer to wear a good facemask(Sorry for sounding like your mom!)and protective gear,Otherwise risk scratcing yourself like crazy for the next couple of weeks.Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[island mike]

Re: Restoration Project.

So blueboy,Where are you? You have not given up I hope?
regards I mike

 

[Blueyboy]

Re: Restoration Project.

Hey Mike,

Definately havn't given up. Just struggling to find time. The restoration has taken a bit of a hit on the priority list at the moment. Christmas shopping (eewww) has taken up some time and almost all of my friends have had a computer issue or 2 in the last month (I get a bottle of bourbon for every fix). On top of this my retic has decided to die and so has the grass so need to get that fixed again. All in all it's stacking up to conspire against the boat getting any more work done.

I'm back on early starts again this week so was hoping to find an hour or two to at least get the stringer out and start cleaning up for the new stringer and transom to go in.

I'll keep you all posted as I go.

Cheers

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[island mike]

Re: Restoration Project.

MMMMMmmm,I see the problem...
I think your too busy drinking all that bourbon!
Conspericy huh? haha!
Anyways have a good one and untill then.
regards I mike

 

[laserbrn]

Re: Restoration Project.

Any progress on this thing? It is IS such a cool looking boat. I'm going to look at a Bellboy tomorrow and looking to do a full restore on it. I decided I don't want to go out and spend a zillion dollars on a boat and I couldn't find a newer one that really hit me right. Looking around I found I really like the look of these older retro boats. I am looking forward to diggin' in and I'd love to stay one step behind you! lol....Hope all is well.

 

[Blueyboy]

Re: Restoration Project.

Sadly, no.
No progress at this stage. I have done a full clean out of the garage in anticipation of funds coming in to continue on this but I have just started a new apprenticeship and am saving for my Wedding in September. Money is a no-show.
So, still sitting as an empty shell in the garage. I will let you know when I can get more moneys to get this project moving again....

P.S. I have had confirmation from some guys at a fishing club that this is definately NOT a bellboy. Still no ideas as to what it IS though...

Cheers

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