Sex Offender as a Neighbor!

[fishrdan]

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I read (and have seen with staggered drives) is that he parks in front of his OWN house,

I didn't read it that way, if that's the case, the neighbor has more problems than just being a SO...............

 

[r.j.dawg]

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Ok. I think there is some confusion regarding the parking situation the Op has. In the diagram below, if I understand the Op's first post, house A is the op's house. House B is the SO's house. The black smudge in front of house A is the Op's vehicle, parked on his side of the road but slightly in line with the SO's driveway. It would appear, and again it's just speculation on my part, the SO has a problem with the Op's vehicle parked in this fashion.
I can see the Op's point. He has been parking in front of his house, on his side of the street, for some years. Now all of a sudden, the new neighbor has a problem with it and calls the Sheriff. I think I would be a bit peeved myself. The SO didn't come and speak with the Op. He just called the Sheriff. In our city, you can park in residential areas any time you want except in the winter, where your vehicle has to be removed from the street between 12am and 7am. Nothing the cops or bylaw enforcement can do about it.

 

[fishrdan]

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The black smudge in front of house A is the Op's vehicle, parked on his side of the road but slightly in line with the SO's driveway.

I read it as Bubba did, but can see what you are talking about and thinking the OP might not have worded it clearly. With that, that's why I said the other guy has more problems than being a SO,,, if he can't negotiate around a parked car while backing out of his driveway...

(Heck, I can back my 18' boat into the driveway dodging parked cars all over the place.)

 

[Harritwo]

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Severa; neighbors told me about it, then i looked it up on the registry. After I confirmed that it was tru, I contacted the Sheriff and asked about his status.

 

[Harritwo]

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Ok. I think there is some confusion regarding the parking situation the Op has. In the diagram below, if I understand the Op's first post, house A is the op's house. House B is the SO's house. The black smudge in front of house A is the Op's vehicle, parked on his side of the road but slightly in line with the SO's driveway. It would appear, and again it's just speculation on my part, the SO has a problem with the Op's vehicle parked in this fashion.
I can see the Op's point. He has been parking in front of his house, on his side of the street, for some years. Now all of a sudden, the new neighbor has a problem with it and calls the Sheriff. I think I would be a bit peeved myself. The SO didn't come and speak with the Op. He just called the Sheriff. In our city, you can park in residential areas any time you want except in the winter, where your vehicle has to be removed from the street between 12am and 7am. Nothing the cops or bylaw enforcement can do about it.

You have it exactly right. My point is first and foremost he is a CONVICTED sexual offender, (Sexual ssault of a female child)when he was 32. So no, it wasnt some love struck teenagers upsetting the parents. I azctually have two issues, first is him calling the sherrif twice without asking me anything, and second and most important he is a threat to society.

 

[Expidia]

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I used to live on a street that had parking on both sides and luckily my driveway was directly opposite a fire hydrant. But I always hated rude people such as yourself that pull even with my driveway. Sure it's legal but rude because even without trailering a boat its still tough to make the turn into ones driveway. We too had a lot of renters and I had to explain the driveway situation to all the new parkers when each new college semester started. They would think nothing of hanging their bumpers 3 feet into my drive too.

I used to ask them to at least leave me a couple of feet on each side for my turns. Never had problems once I spoke to them.

But the thing that gets me about your post is you whine about parking for 3/4 of your post and don't mention your teenage daughter until near the end,

You sure are into this guys private life. I think if I had a choice, I'd choose the SO over a driveway blocker But strange post in my opinion ranting more about your parking situation.

 

[Harritwo]

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Ihave issues with him being a sex offender. My daughter is either with her mother, me or at school. As far as the parking, from the edge of my driveway which is where i park, to the edge of his driveway is 25'. My feelings are mine and they are he does not deserve to breathe the air that I breathe but unfortunately the courts do not see it that way. Unforutanetly, Parking is allowed on the street and I park on the street on my side of the street even with my driveway. I have a three car driveway with a two car garage and they are full. That means that I can and do park one vehicle in the street. After the last time the sheriff was out, and told him that I am legally parked, the sheriff told me that if and when he does anyting out of line, they will deal with him then. My neighborhood is a family neighborhood, with an elementary school 6 blocks away. If CPS saw fit to remove the womans daughters (16, 17) from the home, then obviously there is a threat and that is what concerns me the most. I did not feel that anything else need to be said regarding him being a sex offender, I thought that the statement stood by itself. IF I have not made myself clear, I apologize but there is no neighborhood association and the threat is real. While It may be legal for him to reside there, it does not make it right.

 

[ziggy]

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hope i'm not to negitive here, but........

Ihave issues with him being a sex offender

that's called prejudice. which is generally not desirable.

My daughter is either with her mother, me or at school.

so how is she gonna learn to grow up and deal with the real world that's full of awful people that will take advantage of her at any point? and that's not just for girls, boys too.

My feelings are mine and they are he does not deserve to breathe the air that I breathe but unfortunately the courts do not see it that way.

plenty of folks around like that. everyone has to deal with them. and their not gonna go away either.

I have a three car driveway with a two car garage and they are full.

my heart bleeds. i got a single white rock driveway that ends into a garage built for a model t car. it's used for storage. in ft. of the garage is my boat, in ft. of that is my truck. my gf has to park in the street. if ya leave in the day, the university people grab your spot so there's no where to park. hence my alternative idea to park in my back yard. my lots 48'x138'. not to big.

the sheriff told me that if and when he does anything out of line, they will deal with him then

like i said. he's gotta do something wrong or he's on the right side of the law. ya can't pre judge his actions. prior or not if he's served his time.

If CPS saw fit to remove the womans daughters (16, 17) from the home, then obviously there is a threat and that is what concerns me the most.

i think cps is a bunch of old hens trying to insert their view of life on others. f them. sometimes there harsh measures may be warranted, but i think more often they get in the way.

I apologize but there is no neighborhood association

ya, me either. i live in the center of town. regular workin folk. a little on the poor side.

and the threat is real

your perception apparently.

While It may be legal for him to reside there, it does not make it right.

ain't life a bummer......

do wish ya a peace full resolution in your matter though. live and let live. control the things you can control. deal with the things ya can't control.

 

[r.j.dawg]

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You have it exactly right. My point is first and foremost he is a CONVICTED sexual offender, (Sexual ssault of a female child)when he was 32. So no, it wasnt some love struck teenagers upsetting the parents. I azctually have two issues, first is him calling the sherrif twice without asking me anything, and second and most important he is a threat to society.

Well, yes he was convicted but he has served his time and now has been released into society. And unfortunately is the guy across the road from you. There is nothing reasonable, within the law, that you can do about it. Except opening a daycare as was mentioned. At least you have a data base available to you to find where these guys are living and can adjust your lives accordingly. Something we don't have in Canada. As being a threat to society, well who knows. Maybe, maybe not. I have actually researched the laws in Florida today as they pertain to sexual assault and I'm a bit surprised at how vague they are. For example,

"sexual misconduct" -- Someone claims "harassment" and you're a "sex offender".
"sodomy in the first, second and third degrees" (whatever that might mean) -- consenting or not, anything sexual other than penile-vaginal intercourse is "sodomy" and makes you a "sex offender".
"disseminating indecent material to minors" -- that's right, buy a kid a Playboy a day before his 18th birthday and you're a class 2 "sex offender".

And that's just a sample.

 

[cgibbo308]

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we here have no way of knowing who are rso's and who is not. there is a web site that names them, but the only way they can get the info is if they have people who are sitting in court at the time. . here its against the law for the police to tell anyone if person x is a rso..
i could have one next door and not know. however, they have to inform the cops of where they live, the rego of any vehicle they drive and who they work for.
IF the police think that a so lives too close to a school, park, bus stop or child care place, they can tell them to move (depending on the crime)

im glad sodomy wasnt illegal when i was ... oh never mind. but we used to kill somomites

1700’s 
The first recorded execution for sodomy
1828-63 
People found guilty of sodomy are executed
this was mainly used as a witch hunt for gays and str8 couples where not usualy charged for it..

parking:
we have unlimited unrestricted parking (except heavy vehicles) in my street, appart from 1 or 2 meters from a driveway.
my boat is parked in the street half on the footpath as the street is kinda narrow. council has ignored it for now thank god.
so my drawbar is running along the gutter line held up high with timber. my neighbour parked so my tow hitch was inline withe the rear passenger door.. thanks as$^&*(........ because i have a power pole on the foot path i can only back it in. now the street is full of cars both sides due to construction work, i will have a hell of a time getting in or out and NOTHING can be done about it...

OP.. you have missed one chance to get rid of him, or atleast make it hard for him..
they break the law (according to you) so you need to exploit that.. who else picked it up?????????

 

[SDSeville]

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hope i'm not to negitive here, but........
that's called prejudice. which is generally not desirable.

Oh my, now I have heard it all! Prejudice against a SO who molested a child and moved in across the street from you and your teenage daughter? Not so. He is responsible for protecting his family and if he were not weary of that POS he would be dumb.

 

[nwcove]

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how many of us would be 100% comfortable with a RSO living across the street..kids at home or not? cut the op some slack. any one of us could get a new neighbor that takes us out of our comfort zone. jmo

 

[nwcove]

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Yeah, life is like that. We can't control all other adults or force them to our way of thinking. Such a shame because "I" would be so good at making all the rules and deciding who is worthy.... Yes I am being facetious...

Oh, as to being comfortable. Have one living not to far away for the last 17 years. He lives his life, I live mine. Amazingly it works fine for everyone and most consider him an asset to the community.

thats fine and all......but are you 100% comfortable with it? and i dont mean 100% comfortable saying yes in a forum with anonymous people. from your heart? ( ie....if "something" happened in your neighborhood, would you point a finger at "him"?...or say naaa, no way?)

 

[WIMUSKY]

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Oh, as to being comfortable. Have one living not to far away for the last 17 years. He lives his life, I live mine. Amazingly it works fine for everyone and most consider him an asset to the community.

That's great, but the next guy that moves in may not work out quite the same way. As the OP, I have a teenage daughter and I'm going to error on the side of he "may" do something detrimental to my family. That's called being a responsible father/husband. No, I wouldn't do anything. But, you can bet your bottom dollar my radar would always be active......

BTW, I hope your rant is over....

 

[Tim Frank]

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So the parking thing is just a ruse ....
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But you fear for your daughter? .......
>>>(Some facts if you are interested and ipen to seeing them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender)

A sure sign of the Apocalypse....Bubba and I are on exactly the same page.... (except for his apparent reliance on Wiki for his research.......just a thought, if you are going to craft a really good post...and IMO you did....quote a more credible source than them. They must have got the stats from somewhere :)

I have a 3-time DUI loser across the street from me. Last time at the plate he took out a couple coming home from a hockey game and left 2 orphans. He is out of the slammer, has his license back, and is back "in the game'. :facepalm:
The other night he got the car back in his driveway, but took out two of his own steel garbage cans. Destroyed!
Police say they can't knock on his door and question him after the fact....
This bozo is a far greater risk to society than most....yet for some reason, DUI has little if any of the stigma that we are discussing here.
Given the potential for destroying lives, I have no idea why.

I'd trade the OP, even up, ours for his, in a heartbeat.

 

[Tim Frank]

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Yeah, life is like that. We can't control all other adults or force them to our way of thinking. Such a shame because "I" would be so good at making all the rules and deciding who is worthy.... Yes I am being facetious...

Oh, as to being comfortable. Have one living not to far away for the last 17 years. He lives his life, I live mine. Amazingly it works fine for everyone and most consider him an asset to the community.

Funny how that works.... get to know someone and....

Still haven't seen any post from the OP that might suggest that he has actually spoken with his neighbour. :facepalm:

 

[emoney]

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It's really easy for folks to get all high and mighty as the OP is concerned when you're not, in fact in his situation. I'm siding with you, OP, as I have zero tolerance for either the SO or his "significant other". Someone that choses another adult over the children speaks volumes in my book.

Check with your county/city zoning laws as to what's legal and what isn't. I've seen neighbors put signs in their yards, where it was allowed, that said, "Sex Offender Lives Here" with an arrow. If it's legal, there's nothing wrong with having it.

 

[waterinthefuel]

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having retired after 30+ years of working in NC's prison system, I've seen way too many folks who are there for sex related offenses .... from my experience the comments already made concerning high recidivism rates for convicted sex offenders is definitely true, as it is for heavy drug users .... there is little that one can legally do to prevent them moving into your neighborhood so it sure pays to be highly vigilant

Jim

Actually, no its not. According to the department of justice, sex offenders have the lowest reoffense rate other than murderers at 5.3%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender

And before someone knocks wiki as a source, here is the ORIGINAL source:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsorp94.pdf

It's a common misnomer, and I would love to see a paper where "all of the child murderers are repeat offenders" because murdering a child isn't even a sex offense. I don't get the relationship between the two. Some sex offenders are truly dangerous, and then there are the other 95%.

Oh yea, and to the people wanting to open a day care, if he lived there before the daycare was opened, he will be "grandfathered in." It was people like you that caused the legislature in most states to a pass a "grandfather clause" that will not allow you to uproot a sex offender from his home by opening a day care, preschool, etc after he moves in. So don't bother. Just so you know, if he is released into society, he has all the rights of a common citizen, including the right to sue for harassment so you better be careful.

 

[aspeck]

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I am not sure this discussion is getting us anywhere. There is a lot of passion, but not many real answers for the op. This discussion ranks right up there with politics. No one likes the crimes that are committed against children, but it seems that everyone has a different reaction and feeling about what should happen. Because this topic is so charged with emotion, I feel it is best to close it now before it gets out of hand and needs to be deleted.