Start your own thread !

chiefalen

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Why post to a old thread ?? They are there for information only.

Got a problem start a thread so more people will see it, if you post to a old thread most guys don't get down to your problem and see it.

Start your own thread !

I wish after a month they lock all old threads so one from 5 years ago don't come back. I suggested this to a few mods.
 

legoman67

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Re: Start your own thread !

the other problem with bringin up an old thread, is someone may spend the time to write up a huge explaination on how to solve the OP's issue, when he is long gone and hopefully the problem has been delt with. It wastes everyones time.
 

J JACKSON

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Re: Start your own thread !

i think i will wait and reply to this in a few months/ years
 

SuzukiChopper

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Re: Start your own thread !

One benefit of bringing up old threads that are technical in nature is that it keeps all of the similar information in one place... rather then 100. Also if you had the same problem as the OP, used the advice in that thread and it worked... why not bring back to the top for other people to see and hopefully benefit from without too much searching? At the very least you could post your experience with the advice given and add any additional information that might be of use. The last thing I have to say about it is that it shows people actually searched for the information they were looking for and found it. Rather then willy nilly posting about a problem that has been answered at least once (if not hundreds of times) before.

Now bringing up an old thread, one that may be years old, for the sake of trying to help the OP... that I don't agree with. Locking a thread after a certain time frame I don't 100% agree with either just for the sake of putting it back in the bowls of this forum. If the reason for it being resurrected seems logical then let the discussion continue. Nothing wrong with re-visiting old advice.
 

legoman67

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Re: Start your own thread !

One benefit of bringing up old threads that are technical in nature is that it keeps all of the similar information in one place... rather then 100. Also if you had the same problem as the OP, used the advice in that thread and it worked... why not bring back to the top for other people to see and hopefully benefit from without too much searching? At the very least you could post your experience with the advice given and add any additional information that might be of use. The last thing I have to say about it is that it shows people actually searched for the information they were looking for and found it. Rather then willy nilly posting about a problem that has been answered at least once (if not hundreds of times) before.

Now bringing up an old thread, one that may be years old, for the sake of trying to help the OP... that I don't agree with. Locking a thread after a certain time frame I don't 100% agree with either just for the sake of putting it back in the bowls of this forum. If the reason for it being resurrected seems logical then let the discussion continue. Nothing wrong with re-visiting old advice.


lets say for the sake of arguement, that someone makes a post asking how to replace their prop on there such and such drive, they run into afew problems and the thread goes on, they eventually get it and the thread dies..

3 years later someone goes and finds the thread, he cant figure out what size prop to get, so he replys to the 3 year old post asking what size prop to get.

there are 2 problems with this
1. the title is still 'How do i remove prop' so anyone who has advice on that is going to look in that thread, not the ones who have advice on what size prop to use.
2. Someone could read the OP's message, not see the date, and make a huge set by step directions to solve the OP's issue, when the OP has most likely solved the issue already.(or so we hope)

i think we need to encourage people to use the search function!
 

Don S

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Re: Start your own thread !

i think we need to encourage people to use the search function!

Absolutely, use the archives to find information. If you can't find it, start a thread of your own, use the old threads as a reference (add a link to it) but it is so hard to have to read 30 or so posts to find out the subject has changed. Then you have people answering a reply and you don't have a clue if it's the original, or the hijacker. You just never know.
That's why you start a new thread of your own if you have a question. If you don't you will get a LOT LESS relevent answers.
 

SuzukiChopper

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Re: Start your own thread !

lets say for the sake of arguement, that someone makes a post asking how to replace their prop on there such and such drive, they run into afew problems and the thread goes on, they eventually get it and the thread dies..

3 years later someone goes and finds the thread, he cant figure out what size prop to get, so he replys to the 3 year old post asking what size prop to get.

Like I said 'If the reason for it being resurrected seems logical then let the discussion continue.'

there are 2 problems with this
1. the title is still 'How do i remove prop' so anyone who has advice on that is going to look in that thread, not the ones who have advice on what size prop to use.

A post on what size of prop can be made into a new thread by a mod that sees it. A member that sees the disconnect in the information should let the other member know they should start a new thread on their specific issue. The new question asked isn't a logical contribution to the thread.

2. Someone could read the OP's message, not see the date, and make a huge set by step directions to solve the OP's issue, when the OP has most likely solved the issue already.(or so we hope)

This can be a positive thing and help gather information for the specific problem in one spot. Just adds to what has already been stated and at the end of the day doesn't waste anyone's time having new information about an old problem that someone else may end up having as well. Lots of users with older motors that are prone to the SAME issues as what someone, say 3 years ago, had.

i think we need to encourage people to use the search function!

I'll always agree with this, but at the same time keep in mind that by people using the search function, old threads will be brought back to life ;)
 

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Re: Start your own thread !

This can be a positive thing and help gather information for the specific problem in one spot. Just adds to what has already been stated and at the end of the day doesn't waste anyone's time

Ayuh,.... I beg to Differ with That....

It's bad enough to peck out 1 fingered answers to the same questions,....
Over,
And Over,
And Over,
Then to have Don tell me it's a 2 or 5, or 7 year old thread,.....

Ya,... You're Danm Right you're Wasting My Time....

I'll always agree with this, but at the same time keep in mind that by people using the search function, old threads will be brought back to life

That would be Cured with Chief's Idea,.....

I Like it,... Actually I Love it....

I think a 100 day limit,+ then Locked into the archives,...

If you want to bring up an old topic you found while Searching,....
Just Hot Link it to your post...

Don,....
I think you need to bring this Idea up at the next Mod. meeting,....
I think it would benefit All the forums, but Especially this 1....
 

Don S

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Re: Start your own thread !

OK guys, I brought it back up again in the Mods forum, the last time was early Dec, lots of thing going on then and it kind of fell off the map.
So I brought it back up (IN A NEW THREAD)! :D
 

chiefalen

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Re: Start your own thread !

I came back to clarify a few things, and to agree with Bond-o.

A 100 day limit is a fantastik idea, i originally posted say a month.
This way if we can't solve a posters problem within 100 days it can't be solved,by us.

The old threads that are posted to are sometimes more then 5 years old, yes the information will be of value today as it was when it was originally posted.
But there has to be a limit somewhere.

It's not my place to choose the time limit but if i do get a vote, 100 days would be it.

To the people who use this forum i say please don't post to a old thread.

START YOUR OWN THREAD.

Thank you.
 

SuzukiChopper

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Ayuh,.... I beg to Differ with That....

It's bad enough to peck out 1 fingered answers to the same questions,....
Over,
And Over,
And Over,
Then to have Don tell me it's a 2 or 5, or 7 year old thread,.....

Ya,... You're Danm Right you're Wasting My Time....

I guess if people learn to start hot linking to posts that have already answered a question, then sure.

I'll clarify my meaning for my response by saying this. If 100 people don't see an answer posted in a thread 3 years old and they have the same problem and DON'T search, and 100 people post a NEW thread asking the same thing over a 3 year period... is someone going to remember the original post with the proper solution and link to it or are you going to be stuck posting the same reply over and over again? I'm just basing my response after being an admin of a forum that was NOTORIOUS for people not searching and asking the same thing over and over and over and over again. I'm a computer guy and can type fast and that always bothered me huge. I do know people like you bondo (hunt and peck) and I cringe thinking what a person with your knowledge goes through to help people with the same problem over and over again on this forum. Just trying to provide ONE solution to save you some time bud. 'Tis all.

Anyways again, just throwing a stone out there based on what worked for us. People will be people though, some will never follow the rules, some will never search, some will never read. Also if history has told me anything with forums, this thread will end up in the bowels, people will forget about it and history will repeat itself. Never fails and it's just the way it is, someone will always resurrect an old post. Maybe one day it'll be the HOTD thread :D
 

jaxnjil

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Re: Start your own thread !

Why post to a old thread ?? They are there for information only.

Got a problem start a thread so more people will see it, if you post to a old thread most guys don't get down to your problem and see it.

Start your own thread !

I wish after a month they lock all old threads so one from 5 years ago don't come back. I suggested this to a few mods.



just curious what this has to do with mercruiser,omc,volvo & other i/o........

and why you didnt post in dock side chat cheif??


i have seen threads a lot closer to the given subject chapters moved for less infractions
 

chiefalen

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Re: Start your own thread !

Because people are posting here to old posts all the time.

When was the last time a old post was brought back 5 years latter in the chat forum.

I have no say over what gets moved and to where.

You want the mod to have a beef with me posting the thread here then ill ride the beef.

This is a problem that should be addressed. The point of a 100 people having the same problem may be addressed in the sticky section at the top of the forum, ADULTS ONLY, and if a member wants a thread placed there all the member has to do is request it from a mod in a PM.

The mods here are volunteers and i have never encountered a mod that received a PM not reply in a timely manner.

They explain the reason if something can and can't be done.
We do owe them a vote of thanks, would you put up with what they do everyday, for nothing?
 

Don S

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Re: Start your own thread !

We don't always need OLD information to fix a new problem.

The REASON FOR FOURMS is so you can ask a question and get an answer.
But if you have a question, and it's burried in someone elses thread, it will never get answered.

Don't get so involved with old posts that may or may not have correct information in them that you don't ask your own quesstion. Archives are great for common information, or general informtaion, but not specific problems. Use the archives, use the stickies, use the search function, but post your own question.
That is what these forums are for. Answering specific questions.
 

JustJason

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Re: Start your own thread !

So how would this 100 day rule work? Would a thread go on lockout 100 days after it was originally posted? (which could be a bad idea) Or would it go on lockout 100 days after it was last viewed/posted to (better idea).
Alot of threads go on for more than 100 days (like oops's project boat)
But I could totally see a thread that hasn't been posted to in 100 days go on autolock. Hopefully the forums software permit's such a thing.
 

Don S

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At this point no one knows if it's even possible. hang on for a couple of days.

It was always talked about being after 30 days (or some other number) from the last reply, not the original post date. If it's an on going thread that last for for ever and never goes away (oops thread comes to mind) then it would not be locked untill someone didn't post to it for 30 days.
 

jaxnjil

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Because people are posting here to old posts all the time.

When was the last time a old post was brought back 5 years latter in the chat forum.

I have no say over what gets moved and to where.

You want the mod to have a beef with me posting the thread here then ill ride the beef.

This is a problem that should be addressed. The point of a 100 people having the same problem may be addressed in the sticky section at the top of the forum, ADULTS ONLY, and if a member wants a thread placed there all the member has to do is request it from a mod in a PM.

The mods here are volunteers and i have never encountered a mod that received a PM not reply in a timely manner.

They explain the reason if something can and can't be done.
We do owe them a vote of thanks, would you put up with what they do everyday, for nothing?


so as long as its you--- that makes it ok for you to post where ever you want?

for the record; IF SOME ONE TAKES THE TIME TO USE THE SEARCH--

MORE POWER TWO THEM. if this is such a problem for you, log off and let some else take up the slack the good with the bad



after this is over and done the next thing--- will be a huge thread on USING THE SEARCH FUNCTION THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSED SEVERAL TIMES.



and as cheif has given his reason for flaunting the customs of the forum i ask a moderator why this hasnt thread been moved as other off topic threads are??
 

Don S

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jaxnjil
Have you read any of the replies? If not, might want to go back and read them.
 

jaxnjil

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yes i have read them don and when it come down to it i have nothing but respect for you and the other moderators.

thank you for considering my posts and relpying, and for all you good advice.
 

Big Boat Bay Buster

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Re: Start your own thread !

Holy cow guys, lighten up. Is rehashing of old posts on this board such a MAJOR problem---I think NOT. There are many legit reasons why someone may feel the need to bring up an old post. If they find it interesting enough to bring it back up to the top, I'll give it a read. Who cares, my boats under a foot of snow, I got no other outlet for my love of boating than to surf on this forum, old threads or new! I vote NO to locking old threads.
I think we all have a case of cabin fever:cool:
Chris
 
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