Steering bracket help 1959 lark 35

[Pacmarinerl35]

Hey guys new member here. I'm in the process of bringing life back into a 1964 Pacific mariner scimitar. On the back hangs a 1959 Evinrude lark 35, the 50th edition golden jubilee. This boat has a mercury quicksilver ride guide steering setup, and all I'm missing is a way to connect from the cable to the outboard. I've looked at several options and bracket kits, but I'm unsure what to get and I'm hoping you guys could steer me in the right direction. Thanks!

 

[alldodge]

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[Pacmarinerl35]

You asked a question about something that needs to be seen.
What if I asked you
Have you seen my boat it sure is pretty, what do you think?

Sorry I attached a file but apparently it didn't upload correctly. I'll try again

 

[Pacmarinerl35]

 

[alldodge]

I'll call some members
Hey @racerone @jimmbo @Texasmark @Faztbullet need some ideas

 

[jimmbo]

Searching thru my old OMC catalogs, I can only find Connectors for the Pulley-Clothesline Systems. I have actually only ever seen the P-C systems used on those engine.
I also checked Land&Sea for something, but nothing

I see you engine has the Trailering Lock, on port Transom Bracket.

 

[Pacmarinerl35]

Searching thru my old OMC catalogs, I can only find Connectors for the Pulley-Clothesline Systems. I have actually only ever seen the P-C systems used on those engine.
I also checked Land&Sea for something, but nothing

I see you engine has the Trailering Lock, on port Transom Bracket.

Yeah that's all I've come across as well, but what is interesting is there is no holes for a cable on the port side motorwell. so its as if this boat originally came with the push pull cable type steering. I'm not against changing out the steering system as long as I can retain an older steering wheel. Any recommendations on what I should look for?
Some more pics of the boat. The red one has been in my family since new, and is currently under going a complete restoration, also a Pacific mariner.

 

[jimmbo]

You are probably going to have to MacGyver up something securely to the Carry Handle, that can attach to the Rod. Just remember, you have to due some Diligence when making something, as it may affect your Liability in case of an Accident/Incident

Are there any dealers in your area? They may have some Stuff gathering Dust for those old motors

 

[Chris1956]

The original quick-style connection to the motor was a push rod+spring with a pin. You push it thru the hole in the center bar of the engine, against the spring and turn it to lock.

In your case get some kind of L bracket and drill and bolt to the engine and the steering cable. likely a 3/8" bolt + nylon locknut is close in size to what will fill the hole. I think it will pivot sufficiently to allow full steering. If not you need an L bracket with a longer length to allow the cable to be farther away from the engine mounting point.

It is not shown, but you would need a clamp bracket for the shift cable. This bolts to the splashwell, and holds the cable from moving , but allows it to swivel some, as it has a ball joint.

If you already have one, then you just need the L bracket. If not those clamp brackets are available on most of the steering cable websites. Actually, I suspect that most of the steering cable OEMs were bought out by SeaStar, so try there.

 

[Pacmarinerl35]

You are probably going to have to MacGyver up something securely to the Carry Handle, that can attach to the Rod. Just remember, you have to due some Diligence when making something, as it may affect your Liability in case of an Accident/Incident

Are there any dealers in your area? They may have some Stuff gathering Dust for those old motors

The original quick-style connection to the motor was a push rod+spring with a pin. You push it thru the hole in the center bar of the engine, against the spring and turn it to lock.

In your case get some kind of L bracket and drill and bolt to the engine and the steering cable. likely a 3/8" bolt + nylon locknut is close in size to what will fill the hole. I think it will pivot sufficiently to allow full steering. If not you need an L bracket with a longer length to allow the cable to be farther away from the engine mounting point.

It is not shown, but you would need a clamp bracket for the shift cable. This bolts to the splashwell, and holds the cable from moving , but allows it to swivel some, as it has a ball joint.

If you already have one, then you just need the L bracket. If not those clamp brackets are available on most of the steering cable websites. Actually, I suspect that most of the steering cable OEMs were bought out by SeaStar, so try there.

Thanks guys I figured I would have to piece it together, I was just hoping that wasn't the case. There are lots of ride guide steering connector kits online, Any chance you guys would know which one would work? I have the clamp, it's mounted starboard side of transom. All I need is to connect the cable to the engine lol

 

[Chris1956]

I had cable and pully-style steering, so I do not know exactly what you need.

This is what I had for my Johnson engine.



Something like this would probably work.

 

[Pacmarinerl35]

Update: got my hands on a bracket. Is the steering on these boats supposed to be mediocre? At full steering lock there is probably another 6" of travel left in the outboard to turn

 

[jimmbo]

A lot depends on the location of the anchor for the Cable and the distance from the Pivot Point the Cable attaches to the bracket. Those Push-pull systems work best when they utilize the Tilt Tube and are anchored to to it

 

[matt167]

There are steering tubes available for motors without one. They attach to transom

 

[Chris1956]

Does the motor turn the same amount in both directions? if so, you are probably rigged correctly and the steering system is what it is.

If the motor turns more one way than the other, you may be able to adjust the steering cable length where it clamps into the holder. It also looks like some adjustment where the steering rod end joins the cable end. It doesn't look like enough adjustment, but who knows.

If that adjustment is not sufficient, I would think you could lengthen the steering rod end a bit. Perhaps a threaded rod plus two bolt couplers would work, if the threads are standard bolt threads. The cable end gets the bolt coupler, the threaded rod screws into that coupler, then another bolt coupler and then the steering rod end. use some blue locktite, and jam nuts as well to keep it all tight.

if the threads on the rod are NPT, some sore of pipe nipple plus 2 couplers might work.

If you cannot do that, some sort of plate or bar extension connected to the steering rod may fix it. It will need two bolts on one end to keep it from swiveling.

 

[Pacmarinerl35]

Yeah it just doesn't have enough throw. Played with it for several hours using various adjustments. Has anyone converted these to a hydraulic steering system?

 

[Willyclay]

BTDT with my 1959 Johnson 35. The bracket shown in Post#11 by Chris1956 should work BUT you will need a "Clevis Kit" to make the connection between the cable end and the bracket Search the web for Teleflex SA 27314. Good luck!

 

[Pacmarinerl35]

I found a bracket and have it hooked up, there just

BTDT with my 1959 Johnson 35. The bracket shown in Post#11 by Chris1956 should work BUT you will need a "Clevis Kit" to make the connection between the cable end and the bracket Search the web for Teleflex SA 27314. Good luck!

Isn't an adequate amount of steering within the system to safely and efficiently maneuver the boat in my opinion. Has anyone tried hydraulic? I'll post pics of what I'm working with after work today

 

[racerone]

Remove those odd bits on the end of the steering cable.----Then see if it can be fitted to steer the same amount each way.

 

[matt167]

What is the range in motion? The cable drum setup on my boat can turn the motor nearly sideways but if you turn it anywhere near that it turns so sharp it’s actually scary