Teaching The Wife

ilmostro99

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I am about to start teaching my wife to drive the boat and pull/back the trailer. I'm looking for pointers, tips and advice for teaching. Most of this stuff, I have been doing for as long as I can remember, so I don't know how I learned, It was probably just "do or die".
I have already gotten all of the beginning boating videos from Netflix, and am making her watch them before we begin, so she will at least have some basic knowledge before we start.
Any help appreciated, as my marriage could be on the line:)
Thanks,
Erik
'99 Sea Ray 190 BR
 

JB

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Do the towing/backing practice in a vacant parking lot on a weekend. Have her back the trailer about 100', then put it in a marked parking spot.

That's how I taught myself.
 

a70eliminator

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Re: Teaching The Wife

If you have a riding mower that you can put a little lawn cart behind then you teach her backing up with that first.
 

willamettejeff

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Just thought I'd point out since you didn't mention it, she first needs to pass the test to get the Oregon Boaters Education card before she can legally drive the boat. This is the first year in the phased in plan that, with little exception, anyone driving a boat in Oregon must have this card.
 

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Re: Teaching The Wife

I am about to start teaching my wife to drive the boat and pull/back the trailer. I'm looking for pointers, tips and advice for teaching. ...
I have already gotten all of the beginning boating videos from Netflix, and am making her watch them before we begin...
Thanks,
Erik
'99 Sea Ray 190 BR

Hey Erik... from what you wrote, I can't tell to what degree she wants to learn and help out, versus it being thrust upon her. If it's the latter, my advice is don't push it.... I find it difficult to keep a happy face if I'm trying to teach something to someone who isn't really wanting to learn in the first place (and therefore is doing it poorly).

Now, if she's willing/keen, then I'd do some backing lessons in a desserted parking lot, and wouldn't expect her to back down a ramp until she was fairly capable on flat land. When it is time for the first launch/retrieval or whatever, I'd go the quietest, most desserted ramp around to try and keep the pressure down.

that's my $.02... good luck!
 

salty87

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Re: Teaching The Wife

let someone else do the dirty work, pay em if you have to
 

ilmostro99

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Just thought I'd point out since you didn't mention it, she first needs to pass the test to get the Oregon Boaters Education card before she can legally drive the boat. This is the first year in the phased in plan that, with little exception, anyone driving a boat in Oregon must have this card.
Yeah, I have mine, but was unsure exactly how that works. If I am right next to her, with her at the helm and me teaching her, can she still get a ticket for not having it? She is going to get the Card, but I was thinking that she should at least have some basic skills before taking the test. As for taking the boat by herself, she WILL have the card and better boating skills than the test covers before she can take it without me.
Thanks,
Erik
 

jtexas

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Wrong forum....moving to Stupid Human Tricks.
 

jaxnjil

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Re: Teaching The Wife

have her hold the bottom of the steering wheel and turn it to the side she wants to turn to looking in the mirror.when she is learning how to b ack up trailer
 

ilmostro99

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Hey Erik... from what you wrote, I can't tell to what degree she wants to learn and help out, versus it being thrust upon her. If it's the latter, my advice is don't push it.... I find it difficult to keep a happy face if I'm trying to teach something to someone who isn't really wanting to learn in the first place (and therefore is doing it poorly).

Honestly, it is kind of hard for me to tell. I am all gung-ho and though I already know how to drive a boat, I have been reading, watching and learning everything I can about boating. She doesn't have quite the enthusiasm that I do though, but few people do. She LOVES the boat and REALLY wants to know how to pilot it, but she has a TOUGH job and often when we go out, her brain is fried from work and she really just wants to relax. I do put some pressure on her but not too much. Really it is just that I think it is a good idea to have somebody else aboard that knows how to drive it in case something happens to me, and she agrees. So far I have been taking it really slow, and now she says that she is ready to learn.
Erik
 

watermellonI

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Just make sure you let her do it. You dont really have to say much just help her so she doesn t hit anything.

Take her to an vacant parking lot like Bf says, just let her get the feel of moving the trailer backward. Its a trial and error sort of thing, just be there to help her not bump into any thing.

Don t tell her which way to turn or nothin like that just help her by answering questions and letting her make mistakes and corrrect them, most of it is common sense Most of all be patient and she ll get it.

(oh brother that sounds so simple :redface:)

Good Luck :p
 

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Re: Teaching The Wife

the best advice is, don't you get frustrated, NO YELLING!! then the hand on the bottom of the wheel, then move the hand which way the wants the trailer to go. also put guide on on the trailer so she can see them when backing an unloaded trailer. years ago my dad mounted a broom stick, on his trailer, he would raise it, when he was backing the empty trailer, then the boat would knock it down when loading.
 

Andy in NY

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Re: Teaching The Wife

If you have a riding mower that you can put a little lawn cart behind then you teach her backing up with that first.

Believe it or not, but the smaller the trailer the harder it is to maneuver. I personally have a cart for my riding mower and it is a ***** to get where you want it. My buddy goes from a lawm mower with a cart, to a truck with a small landscaping trailer, to a 14' jon boat to a 22' bayliner. He said as the trailer gets bigger, it gets easier to move them.
 

willamettejeff

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Yeah, I have mine, but was unsure exactly how that works. If I am right next to her, with her at the helm and me teaching her, can she still get a ticket for not having it? She is going to get the Card, but I was thinking that she should at least have some basic skills before taking the test. As for taking the boat by herself, she WILL have the card and better boating skills than the test covers before she can take it without me.
Thanks,
Erik

She will need to have the card before she may drive the boat, much like getting a learners permit before learning how to drive a car to insure you know the 'rules of the road' before getting behind the wheel. But then again if your right there and don't have an accident, you'll more than likely get away with it.
 

jtexas

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Re: Teaching The Wife

tell her this -
on backing a trailer: after the turn has started, it will get sharper even after you straighten the wheels. You have to compensate by turning the wheel the other way almost immediately.

on highway towing: every little movement of the steering wheel gets exagerated in trailer sway - no talking on the phone, changing the CD, turning around to swat the kids, etc. *Don't* underestimate the increase in stopping distance with the trailer.

on operating a boat in reverse: it will be real reluctant to respond to the steering wheel.
 

Courtney

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Not real sure how I ended up here......I sat down to look about a boat-skin for the fisherman's boat. Didn't find anything I needed about a boat skin, how much they are, the closest place to have it done...BUT, I did find Erik's very nice post here.
I love my little fisherman and I like him a whole lot, too. I like to go out fishing with him. Sometimes I sit back and relax while he fishes, sometimes I try to fish and when I do try and spend more time trying to get un-hung from a tree or a dock, retying stuff, messing with my tangled up line....I just sit back on the back seat and do my own thing while he does his and we have a great time.
Now, about this boat backing business....Erik, my best advice for you...coming from a middle aged woman who has just learned....is make sure there is no one else watching or waiting to get in or out, and then just sit back, relax, keep your hands in your lap and your lips together. The more he kept telling me what to do and pointing which way to go to more confused I got. My first time it took me about 25 times to get it down the ramp and in the water...maybe I am exceptionally stupid, but, looking at him pointing in my mirrors and listening to him just had me in a mess! When I would get to the place on the ramp where you can't see the trailer anymore (on those big long state park ramps) I would mess up. He finally decided to just let me keep working at it while he fished around the dock, and I finally stopped messing with the mirrors and hung my head out the window to look back and got that boat in the water. I think he had to adjust his angle a bit driving the boat on cause I was a little bit crooked, but, it worked. Forget the drivers side mirror. Using the mirrors is not a requirement for a boat trailer....as long as you stay straight and parallel on your drivers side, your passenger side will be fine....if not, you'll just bump the curb, pull forward and try again.
Some neighbors of ours have a little ramp at their house and I spent a lot of time there backing in and out and felt way more at ease than at the state park ramps. No one was noticing what I was doing there!
When he stopped trying to help me and I started figuring it out for myself is when it began to click. Now he spends that time straightening up his poles, putting things away and doing whatever he can to keep himself from paying attention to me. Some of my biggest nerves came from the fact that this was HIS boat, HIS trailer, and HIS truck! I'm sure other women reading this will know exactly what that means. His that he bought, he owns, he maintains, he waxes and polishes....goodness sakes the last thing I wanted to do was mess something up or have him worried that I might mess something up. Be nice and be very patient and she'll figure it out....use that time to play with your new fish-finder or something....!

Driving the boat; the same way...seems as though the more I tried steering away from the buoy and the more nervous he was getting (not about the buoy, but the dock on the other side of the buoy) the closer I was getting to it. We got in a cove plenty clear of the docks....he tossed out some of those floating fishing markers and I putted around them them I get it figured out...meanwhile...he was trolling for fish....

Going down the highway; We're women, not idiots. Again...Shhhhhh with the lips and hands. Just explain that you have to swing out wider (closer to the ditch on the other side) than you would in a car. I learned that just about the time that I thought "oh man, I'm gonna get in the ditch" is when I needed to cut my wheels to get in the driveway.

That lawnmower cart backing is WAY harder. I usually end up getting off and lifting/pushing it around to where it to go because I can't back it.

Good luck and enjoy fishing with your wife!
 

BamaAlum97

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Re: Teaching The Wife

the best advice is, don't you get frustrated, NO YELLING!! then the hand on the bottom of the wheel, then move the hand which way the wants the trailer to go. also put guide on on the trailer so she can see them when backing an unloaded trailer. years ago my dad mounted a broom stick, on his trailer, he would raise it, when he was backing the empty trailer, then the boat would knock it down when loading.


Agreed! Emphasis on patience and no yelling. Especially if/when she backs into something or does something that you feel should be common sense. We were all newbies at one point.
 

Chinewalker

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Re: Teaching The Wife

My wife did much better docking the boat and backing the trailer when I STOPPED trying to coach her. She's pretty bright and figured out how things worked mostly on her own. I gave her the basic do's & don'ts up front and let her go from there. That's probably one of the big reasons why I married her...
- Scott
 

ilmostro99

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Re: Teaching The Wife

Wow, some really great advice here. Thank you everybody, especially to Courtney for giving advice from a woman's point of view. BTW, Welcome to iBoats. I think I have my plan now. Give her a couple pointers, shut my mouth (knowing me I may have to super glue it, hey, I'm a man, always trying to "fix" things) and let her figure it out for herself at an empty parking lot and ramp. Of course, always be ready to answer questions, but only when asked.
The only thing that makes me really nervous is that, though the lawn tractor/small trailer is a Great idea, or an empty trailer, the only trailer I have is the one with the boat on it, and my local lake doesn't really have a place to launch the boat, tie it up and let her take the empty trailer back up to practice, so it looks like all practicing will be done with "live ammunition". Oh well, I have faith in her, and as long as she keeps it slow, I don't foresee any problems.
Thanks again,
Erik
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