the crack of all cracks

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Re: the crack of all cracks

Yup PO put a new floor right over the old stuff. Those stringers are the originals.
 
Bob_VT

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Re: the crack of all cracks

Well it is all repairable and since you are this far into the hull anyway.......do the stringers. see how deep the water is in the stringers and how far forward in the hull the wetness is.
 
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westcoaster90

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Re: the crack of all cracks

Bob_VT said:
Well it is all repairable and since you are this far into the hull anyway.......do the stringers. see how deep the water is in the stringers and how far forward in the hull the wetness is.
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I am gonna think about this a few days. boats are all around me and they come cheap. just a matter of them coming solid. I have lots to do besides fixing this boat but I may still take it on. I bought another one the exact same for $300. all original and in great shape. of coarse I will never know what under the floor looks like until i'm under there but the deck has no soft spots and the hull has no patches. the guy I bought it off of is getting his 50 suzy removed from it in the next few days. he is switching to a pontoon boat. i'll update this thread when I make my mind up on it.
 
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Re: the crack of all cracks

Myself, I'm terribly gun shy about any used boats after seeing what some people have faced in these forums. In fact I get shivers whenever I see a boat with a faded gel coat sitting out uncovered with a for sale sign on it. I got bit with a bit of a rot monster and opted for the rebuild only because it will be 1000% better than when it came from the factory. There is no way in the world that if could be worse.

The plus sides are that the boat is a short one which makes a difference in material costs and there seems to only be stringers. Not like my Stratos with its 20 something bulkheads. A good effort could have it done in 3 to 4 weeks. Especially if you get someone to give you a hand.
 
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bakerjw said:
Myself, I'm terribly gun shy about any used boats after seeing what some people have faced in these forums. In fact I get shivers whenever I see a boat with a faded gel coat sitting out uncovered with a for sale sign on it. I got bit with a bit of a rot monster and opted for the rebuild only because it will be 1000% better than when it came from the factory. There is no way in the world that if could be worse.

The plus sides are that the boat is a short one which makes a difference in material costs and there seems to only be stringers. Not like my Stratos with its 20 something bulkheads. A good effort could have it done in 3 to 4 weeks. Especially if you get someone to give you a hand.
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words of encouragement. thanks bud. I know if I really went full bore on it I could have new stringers glassed down in 2 days. if you saw my yard you would know why I really don't have the time for this boat. plus the fact that the hull has a very large open wound on it that needs to be taken care of. we'll see what happens. if I could have seen that crack closer while it was sitting on the beach I would have passed on it. i'm gonna give it some time here and decide. for now I got about a dozen outboards and about the same amount of chainsaws I gotta take care of.
 
Woodonglass

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Re: the crack of all cracks

I'm all about project but...This one, IMHO, Is a PASS!!!!!
 
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westcoaster90

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Woodonglass said:
I'm all about project but...This one, IMHO, Is a PASS!!!!!
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I agree with you in full. you know, if the hull was in mint shape and all it needed was stringers and a floor I would probably just go for it. the fact that the hull has been thrashed makes me believe this boat is a waste of time even though it is repairable. plus boats are all over the place around me and are available for free most of the time. just a matter of whether they are solid or not. another will be here soon. got another boat the exact same for $300 except the thing is mint and being run as we speak. I checked it out and everything seems very solid. the hull is in mint condition. it also has a hard top fitted to it. the guy did a very good job making it look original too. he's getting his motor pulled from it for a pontoon boat he just bought. should have it in a matter of 2 weeks.
 
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well guys. now after fighting with the guy to get his motor off that boat I decided to just get my money back as he was taking forever and seemed to be beating around the bush. I found a place in the next town over from me that has a bunch of old boats for sale that have been fixed up. for the equivalent of the damaged one I have but in good shape the guy is asking $3000 :-( i'm sure I could probably get it for less but not the price I wanna pay. so now I have decided to fix the one I got. I went in and removed all foam (which was water logged and very heavy). then I removed any debonded glass off the outside of the stringers, covered boat, and threw a heater in there. stringers dried up to a crisp and in my opinion can be glassed back over with some sanding first. there is no rot in the stringers whatsoever. there was one strip of what looked like plywood on top of the keel stringer just to raise it to the height of the other stringers which was rotten but that is easily replaced. so now my question. I have done stringers before but it seems I was doing it the wrong way. it worked but what the hell, this one I want to be good to go so I for sure don't have to do this again. I have not removed the stringer which the crack is under but plan to do so for inside laminations. my thing is about the peanut butter in woodonglass's illustration. there is no peanut butter in between the stringers and hull on this boat. it is factory and am wondering just how critical it is. the stringers seem to not touch the hull anywhere though. so i'm looking for recommendations for these stringers. should a just reglass over them coating them good in resin rather then remove everyone just to put peanut butter under. I have repaired boats with no peanut butter under the stringers before with no problems but then again I never ran a boat longer then a year or so. i plan to leave the foam out and that's not cheaping out, that's just an opinionated choice. i feel like on a boat like this with very little room under the floor you can't fit enough foam to keep it floating while sunk anyways. i mean the foam may when first applied but the foam water logs so fast it's pointless. sorry for the long post. just tried to get all info in there. all opinions greatfully accepted :)
 
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